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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
(03-22-2018 11:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 10:49 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:53 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:24 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  Did Chris Mullen coach a HS team to 3 straight state titles? No.

Did Chris Mullen coach in AAU? No.

Completely different people and walks. Penny has definitely been coaching.
You change your argument from "HES NEVER COACHED BEFORE" to "WELL HE WONT BE ABLE TO COACH AGAINST OTHER COACHES"

HAHAHAHAHA keep going this is getting good.

Ha. Coaching AAU totally qualifies someone to lead a multi million dollar program.

Yeah but I think from your initial posts, no one can put faith in what you're babbling on about.

You're ignoring the part where you said hes never coached before.

Does high school not count? Does AAU not count? Does he need to coach a JuCO for a few years before you label him as having previous coaching experience? The man is a coach haha

I coached high school and AAU baseball for a few years and coached players who went on to play at D1 programs and players who got drafted. Does that qualify me to coach at a top 50 D1 baseball program?

Im not saying you are right or wrong, but you do realize this is completely different than AAU teams associated with Division 1 basketball? I say that from playing AAU baseball.

I do realize it is very different, but don't necessarily think the differences make AAU basketball coaches more qualified. Also, realize some of both are qualified. Gary Lavelle (sp), for example, was coaching AAU baseball for a while and was qualified to coach at any level, and I am sure there are some of those in basketball as well.
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
(03-22-2018 10:49 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:53 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:24 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:12 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  That is all well and good until he goes up against professional coaches who have been doing this for decades. Ask Chris Mullin.

Did Chris Mullen coach a HS team to 3 straight state titles? No.

Did Chris Mullen coach in AAU? No.

Completely different people and walks. Penny has definitely been coaching.
You change your argument from "HES NEVER COACHED BEFORE" to "WELL HE WONT BE ABLE TO COACH AGAINST OTHER COACHES"

HAHAHAHAHA keep going this is getting good.

Ha. Coaching AAU totally qualifies someone to lead a multi million dollar program.

Yeah but I think from your initial posts, no one can put faith in what you're babbling on about.

You're ignoring the part where you said hes never coached before.

Does high school not count? Does AAU not count? Does he need to coach a JuCO for a few years before you label him as having previous coaching experience? The man is a coach haha

I coached high school and AAU baseball for a few years and coached players who went on to play at D1 programs and players who got drafted. Does that qualify me to coach at a top 50 D1 baseball program?

Did you ever play professional baseball?

Were you ever named an All-Star while playing professionally?

Did you ever win state titles as a coach let alone 3 peat that accomplishment?

Did you run your AAU team as "front man" and control all aspects of your team?

If you answered "NO" to any of those, please sit down. Furthermore, I love how you're comparing yourself to Penny Hardaway lol very comical.

Let me know when you accomplish anything similar.

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Of course much of that means nothing in terms pf coaching success.
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
(03-22-2018 12:30 PM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 10:49 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:53 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 09:24 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  Did Chris Mullen coach a HS team to 3 straight state titles? No.

Did Chris Mullen coach in AAU? No.

Completely different people and walks. Penny has definitely been coaching.
You change your argument from "HES NEVER COACHED BEFORE" to "WELL HE WONT BE ABLE TO COACH AGAINST OTHER COACHES"

HAHAHAHAHA keep going this is getting good.

Ha. Coaching AAU totally qualifies someone to lead a multi million dollar program.

Yeah but I think from your initial posts, no one can put faith in what you're babbling on about.

You're ignoring the part where you said hes never coached before.

Does high school not count? Does AAU not count? Does he need to coach a JuCO for a few years before you label him as having previous coaching experience? The man is a coach haha

I coached high school and AAU baseball for a few years and coached players who went on to play at D1 programs and players who got drafted. Does that qualify me to coach at a top 50 D1 baseball program?

Did you ever play professional baseball? No. Did Roy Williams? Coach K? Bill Self? Jay Wright? Mark Price did. Chris Mullen did.

Were you ever named an All-Star while playing professionally? See Above.

Did you ever win state titles as a coach let alone 3 peat that accomplishment? Cool. Let's hire Jack Baker.

Did you run your AAU team as "front man" and control all aspects of your team? Definitely have never been any kind of front man. I think that may be a point in my favor.

If you answered "NO" to any of those, please sit down. Furthermore, I love how you're comparing yourself to Penny Hardaway lol very comical.

Let me know when you accomplish anything similar. Nothing below matters... certainly not triple doubles lol.

Memphis High School Player of the Year (1989, 1990)
First team All-American selection by the Basketball Times (1990)
National High School Player of the Year (1990)
Great Midwest Conference (Conference USA) Player of the Year (1992, 1993)
College All-American (1993)
MVP of Rookie Challenge (Then called the Schick Rookie Game) (1994)
NBA All-Rookie Team (1994)
NBA Player of the Month (November 1995)
NBA Finals (1995)
Gold Medal – USA Men's Basketball (1996 Summer Olympics)
All-NBA First Team (1995, 1996)
All-NBA Third Team (1997)
NBA All-Star Team (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998)
Six career Triple-Doubles (5 Regular Season & 1 in Playoffs)
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
I didn't even read the 6 triple doubles. Thats gold.
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
Here's the reality: None of us have any freakin' clue how it's going to work out. He is going to have access to all kinds of Memphis talent. Is that going to be enough? We don't freakin' know. There have been some ex-players who have done really well as coaches. There have been some ex-players who have completely bombed. Playing at a high level does not equal being able to coach at a high level nor does it mean you won't be able to coach at a high level. We'll have to wait and see. Arguing either side at this point as if it is a certainty is ridiculous.
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(03-22-2018 12:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Of course much of that means nothing in terms pf coaching success.

Maybe you're right. Maybe All-Stars become All-Stars because they see the game differently than every other typical player who never sniffs any of those accomplishments.
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
(03-22-2018 12:58 PM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 12:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Of course much of that means nothing in terms pf coaching success.

Maybe you're right. Maybe All-Stars become All-Stars because they see the game differently than every other typical player who never sniffs any of those accomplishments.

I started out sticking up for you because I don't think all former good players are going to be duds as coaches. Penny has a good start with recruiting. Ewing did a nice job his first year (he spent a ton of time on NBA sidelines, fwiw).

But, playing success means nothing in terms of coaching success. Look how piss poor Jordan is as both an owner and coach as a great example. There are way more examples in great players being poor coaches than great players being great coaches.

If you can find a way correlate triple doubles to coaching success, please send it on over.
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Why do we even Care about Memphis? Lol

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This seems like a Hail Mary hire for Memphis. It could be exactly the thing to turn the program around. But if it's a bust, then it could take them a long ass time to dig out of the hole. Especially coaching against Mick Cronin, Gregg Marshall, and now Danny Hurley.
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
(03-22-2018 01:18 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 12:58 PM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  
(03-22-2018 12:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Of course much of that means nothing in terms pf coaching success.

Maybe you're right. Maybe All-Stars become All-Stars because they see the game differently than every other typical player who never sniffs any of those accomplishments.

I started out sticking up for you because I don't think all former good players are going to be duds as coaches. Penny has a good start with recruiting. Ewing did a nice job his first year (he spent a ton of time on NBA sidelines, fwiw).

But, playing success means nothing in terms of coaching success. Look how piss poor Jordan is as both an owner and coach as a great example. There are way more examples in great players being poor coaches than great players being great coaches.

If you can find a way correlate triple doubles to coaching success, please send it on over.

Love how everyone fixated on the triple doubles. I definitely shouldve left it off. Yes MJ has been a bust after his playing career and there are more examples of failure over success. With everything PH has built in his hometown and the buzz he has going, I find it hard for him to be anything but successful. Guess I got caught up in dude saying hes never coached before and instantly labeling him a "disaster". So far at every other level, hes been far from a disaster.
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You gotta admit including number of triple doubles to support a coach is funny.
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@ErikBacharach: Nick McDevitt, who spent the last five seasons as head coach at UNC-Asheville, will replace Kermit Davis as @MT_MBB’s new head coach.

Story: http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/college/...455460002/
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(03-24-2018 08:01 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  @ErikBacharach: Nick McDevitt, who spent the last five seasons as head coach at UNC-Asheville, will replace Kermit Davis as @MT_MBB’s new head coach.

Story: http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/college/...455460002/

Good hire.

Edit: Will be a totally different scheme, if I remember UNCA correctly.
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RE: OT - Ole Miss to hire Kermit Davis
(03-24-2018 08:09 PM)757ODU Wrote:  
(03-24-2018 08:01 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  @ErikBacharach: Nick McDevitt, who spent the last five seasons as head coach at UNC-Asheville, will replace Kermit Davis as @MT_MBB’s new head coach.

Story: http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/college/...455460002/

Good hire.

Edit: Will be a totally different scheme, if I remember UNCA correctly.
That seems like a very good hire. He has really elevated UNC-A

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