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I like the schedule as well. @ St Joes, @ Syracuse is a huge improvement. Then u still have Richmond, VCU on the schedule. Oregon State has actually been half decent as well, not the laughing stock they used to be.

Let's see if those teams hold up their end of the bargain. Because ya that sounds a lot better and winnable.

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Now if the rest of the conference can step it up. I don't understand playing DII and DIII during the regular season.

(07-05-2018 10:59 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  Now of the rest of the conference steps it up. I don't understand playing DII and DIII during the regular season.

Yes. Starts with the commissioner. She needs to step up and mandate non-conference limitations similar to other conferences.

Isn't there some math that explains that playing DII might actually be more beneficial than low RPI D1 schools?

(07-05-2018 11:28 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Isn't there some math that explains that playing DII might actually be more beneficial than low RPI D1 schools?

If I'm not mistaken, non-DI opponents don't count toward RPI, win or lose. So playing a DII would be better than playing a 300+ RPI DI.

(07-05-2018 11:33 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 11:28 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Isn't there some math that explains that playing DII might actually be more beneficial than low RPI D1 schools?

If I'm not mistaken, non-DI opponents don't count toward RPI, win or lose. So playing a DII would be better than playing a 300+ RPI DI.

Which tells you all you need to know about the rpi. It’s better to play Christopher Newport than it is to play Norfolk State. Even though the talent difference is pretty big. Lol

(07-05-2018 03:30 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 11:33 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 11:28 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Isn't there some math that explains that playing DII might actually be more beneficial than low RPI D1 schools?

If I'm not mistaken, non-DI opponents don't count toward RPI, win or lose. So playing a DII would be better than playing a 300+ RPI DI.

Which tells you all you need to know about the rpi. It’s better to play Christopher Newport than it is to play Norfolk State. Even though the talent difference is pretty big. Lol

It’s better to LOSE to Christopher Newport, Newport News Apprentice, Mid-Atlantic Christian or, when they start a program, Regent than it is to beat NSU. That’s just daffy.

It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

(07-05-2018 08:21 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Like last season, a lot will ride on how ODU does in the early-season tournament opener. A win against Oregon State, which is certainly doable, most likely gets Missouri, a probable bubble team, in the semifinals, with Big 12 contender Kansas State waiting in the final. A loss and it's probably Kennesaw State and Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa/Penn.

Don't count out UTSA as a good win; they bring an awful lot back from last year's team. CUSA won't be two-bid good barring a team ripping off 29 wins and then losing in the title game, but it won't be bad by any stretch.

(07-05-2018 09:12 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 08:21 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Like last season, a lot will ride on how ODU does in the early-season tournament opener. A win against Oregon State, which is certainly doable, most likely gets Missouri, a probable bubble team, in the semifinals, with Big 12 contender Kansas State waiting in the final. A loss and it's probably Kennesaw State and Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa/Penn.

Don't count out UTSA as a good win; they bring an awful lot back from last year's team. CUSA won't be two-bid good barring a team ripping off 29 wins and then losing in the title game, but it won't be bad by any stretch.

Not sure how WKU is “untouchable”. They lost 4 starters. 3 of which were all-conference. Yes obviously they have some highly touted players but they lost a ton.

(07-05-2018 11:33 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 11:28 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Isn't there some math that explains that playing DII might actually be more beneficial than low RPI D1 schools?

If I'm not mistaken, non-DI opponents don't count toward RPI, win or lose. So playing a DII would be better than playing a 300+ RPI DI.

That's what MTSU tried to do last year to artificially increase their RPI. The committee didn't fall for it. They sent a message. Hopefully this means fewer teams will be scheduling D2 and D3. I get that the math is better, but it's pretty embarrassing.

(07-05-2018 09:12 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 08:21 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Like last season, a lot will ride on how ODU does in the early-season tournament opener. A win against Oregon State, which is certainly doable, most likely gets Missouri, a probable bubble team, in the semifinals, with Big 12 contender Kansas State waiting in the final. A loss and it's probably Kennesaw State and Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa/Penn.

Don't count out UTSA as a good win; they bring an awful lot back from last year's team. CUSA won't be two-bid good barring a team ripping off 29 wins and then losing in the title game, but it won't be bad by any stretch.

USM is much improved too. They are no longer a doormat.

F_U are still 250+ teams. Rather unfortunate.

I don't know how far MTSU will fall, but getting a win this year just isn't going to feel as good as we will want it to.

I think it's a top half vs bottom half league again. Better than top 4 vs everyone else though. The 7 teams are:

WKU
MU
UTSA
UNT
UAB
USM
ODU

I do not know how UTEP will be. Neither do I understand what's happening at LT.

Bottom:

MTSU
FAU
FIU
Rice
Charlotte

(07-05-2018 10:04 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 09:12 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 08:21 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Like last season, a lot will ride on how ODU does in the early-season tournament opener. A win against Oregon State, which is certainly doable, most likely gets Missouri, a probable bubble team, in the semifinals, with Big 12 contender Kansas State waiting in the final. A loss and it's probably Kennesaw State and Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa/Penn.

Don't count out UTSA as a good win; they bring an awful lot back from last year's team. CUSA won't be two-bid good barring a team ripping off 29 wins and then losing in the title game, but it won't be bad by any stretch.

Not sure how WKU is “untouchable”. They lost 4 starters. 3 of which were all-conference. Yes obviously they have some highly touted players but they lost a ton.

They will just have sheer talent. They will have off nights like anyone else, so not untouchable, but they will have the best starting 5 in the league from a talent standpoint.

(07-05-2018 08:21 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Kind of depends on how good Northern Iowa, Oregon State, Missouri (if we play them), Kansas State (if we play them), VCU, Richmond, W&M, St. Joes, and Syracuse are. Many could be tournament caliber teams but they could all just as easily be mediocre, even Syracuse. Really tough to say at this point. Some good programs, but UNI, Missouri, VCU, Richmond, and St. Joe's aren't what they used to be and Syracuse, while still capable of having powerhouse seasons, are not as consistent as they used to be... and W&M is included only because they have JJ's number. I think the OOC schedule is probably strong enough if we finish with 1-2 losses by winning the Paradise Jam and beating Syracuse on the road and go on to notch a CUSA record of 15-3 again. Unlikely, and I certainly wouldn't predict it, but possible if we are any good. Bottom line is we need quality wins.

(07-06-2018 05:58 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:04 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 09:12 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 08:21 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  It’s an improvement over last year, but it’s still not a great schedule, especially if CUSA sucks next year.

WKU will be untouchable as the best team in the league so no quality wins to be has there and middle tenn will crash back to earth and barely be top 150 (in my opinion).

Our only chances for big wins will be Marshall (if they can find their success again which is also debatable) and maybe unt or uab next year.

Our ooc schedule isn’t strong enough, in my opinion, to overcome how bad our conference will be. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Like last season, a lot will ride on how ODU does in the early-season tournament opener. A win against Oregon State, which is certainly doable, most likely gets Missouri, a probable bubble team, in the semifinals, with Big 12 contender Kansas State waiting in the final. A loss and it's probably Kennesaw State and Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa/Penn.

Don't count out UTSA as a good win; they bring an awful lot back from last year's team. CUSA won't be two-bid good barring a team ripping off 29 wins and then losing in the title game, but it won't be bad by any stretch.

Not sure how WKU is “untouchable”. They lost 4 starters. 3 of which were all-conference. Yes obviously they have some highly touted players but they lost a ton.

They will just have sheer talent. They will have off nights like anyone else, so not untouchable, but they will have the best starting 5 in the league from a talent standpoint.

Also depends on if Bassey is eligible. They have talent (though it's overrated by some on here). Not sure Stansbury is the best guy at developing talent and they are going to have to figure out how to develop chemistry pretty quickly with a lot of moving parts.

And we aren’t going to have to figure out how to develop talent pretty quickly???? Lol ok then.

So here's the schedule to date:

Nov. ? NAVY
Nov. 9 at St. Joseph's
Nov. 19 vs. Oregon State (St. Thomas, VI)
Nov. 20 vs. Missouri/Kennesaw State (St. Thomas)
Nov. 21 vs. TBD (St. Thomas)
Dec. 5 WILLIAM & MARY
Dec. 15 at Syracuse
Dec. 22 MORGAN STATE
TBD at Richmond
TBD VCU
TBD JMU
TBD Northern Iowa (no word if home or away)

Northern Iowa is the first known ODU opponent to be ranked in the College Sports Madness top 144, coming in at 129, sixth in the MVC.

Syracuse, Kansas State, Missouri, William & Mary, St. Joseph's and Penn will most likely be ranked. Oregon State and VCU maybe. Morgan State definitely not. The rest probably not.

Northern Iowa would have to be within 2 weeks of the main tournament to count as a tournament game

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VCU enters the College Sports Madness rankings at 128, 8th in the A10.

So that's two ODU opponents in this guy's top 144.