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Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
Quote:Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice is said to be close to completion, but he may set it aside while he finishes other key parts of his probe, such as possible collusion and the hacking of Democrats, according to current and former U.S. officials.
That’s because Mueller may calculate that if he tries to bring charges in the obstruction case -- the part that may hit closest to Trump personally -- witnesses may become less cooperative in other parts of the probe, or the president may move to shut it down altogether.
The revelation is a peek into Muller’s calculations as he proceeds with his many-headed probe, while pressure builds from the president’s advisers and other Republicans to show progress or wrap it up.
When it comes to the obstruction portion of the investigation, Mueller is said to be focused on three main episodes: Trump’s firing of FBI Director James Comey last May; the drafting of a misleading statement about the purpose of a June 2016 meeting between Don Jr., Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and a group of Russians at Trump Tower; and the disclosure that Trump considered firing Mueller last June.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...n-decision
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
With all the leaks that so-called investigation has, if he had anything, it would be headline news on every one of the leftist propaganda channels.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 08:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
Well based on those 3 items, he has less than nothing.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
Is that really the crux of his case???
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 08:50 AM)solohawks Wrote: Is that really the crux of his case???
Well, he has plenty to indict Comey over. But you knew he wasnt going to do that.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 08:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:50 AM)solohawks Wrote: Is that really the crux of his case???
Well, he has plenty to indict Comey over. But you knew he wasnt going to do that.
(03-12-2018 08:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 08:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:50 AM)solohawks Wrote: Is that really the crux of his case???
Well, he has plenty to indict Comey over. But you knew he wasnt going to do that.
(03-12-2018 08:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
I take it that you are begrudgingly agreeing with this?
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 09:13 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:50 AM)solohawks Wrote: Is that really the crux of his case???
Well, he has plenty to indict Comey over. But you knew he wasnt going to do that.
(03-12-2018 08:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
I take it that you are begrudgingly agreeing with this?
You can take it however you like...I'm just waiting (and trusting) Mueller to arrive at the correct decisions as he sees fit, until he gives me any legitimate reason to think otherwise. Which I am not currently expecting.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 09:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-12-2018 09:13 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:50 AM)solohawks Wrote: Is that really the crux of his case???
Well, he has plenty to indict Comey over. But you knew he wasnt going to do that.
(03-12-2018 08:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
I take it that you are begrudgingly agreeing with this?
You can take it however you like...I'm just waiting (and trusting) Mueller to arrive at the correct decisions as he sees fit, until he gives me any legitimate reason to think otherwise. Which I am not currently expecting.
I get the feeling that if Mueller comes up with nothing Tom won't need to be talked off the ledge. He's possibly one of the most level headed libs/anti Trump folks.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 09:50 AM)gdunn Wrote: (03-12-2018 09:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-12-2018 09:13 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Well, he has plenty to indict Comey over. But you knew he wasnt going to do that.
(03-12-2018 08:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Or, he may simply be delaying it because he has nothing.
I take it that you are begrudgingly agreeing with this?
You can take it however you like...I'm just waiting (and trusting) Mueller to arrive at the correct decisions as he sees fit, until he gives me any legitimate reason to think otherwise. Which I am not currently expecting.
I get the feeling that if Mueller comes up with nothing Tom won't need to be talked off the ledge. He's possibly one of the most level headed libs/anti Trump folks.
If Mueller comes up with nothing then he's an incompetent hack. Comey has publicly acknowledged leaking material to his friend, and some of the info was classified.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
Quote:"No memo was given to me that was marked 'classified,'" Daniel Richman told CNN. "No memo was passed on to the Times."
Richman did share the contents of one memo, he said, but "the substance of the memo passed on to the Times was not marked classified and to my knowledge remains unclassified."
During Senate testimony in June, in which he said he gave memos to someone he described as a Columbia University professor, Comey said he specifically wrote the memos to avoid including classified information.
"My thinking was, if I write it in such a way that I don't include anything that would trigger a classification, that'll make it easier for us to discuss, within the FBI and the government, and to -- to hold on to it in a way that makes it accessible to us," Comey told senators.
Comey friend: No memos given to me were marked classified
Quote:More than half of the memos former FBI Director James Comey wrote as personal recollections of his conversations with President Trump about the Russia investigation have been determined to contain classified information, according to interviews with officials familiar with the documents.
This revelation raises the possibility that Comey broke his own agency’s rules and ignored the same security protocol that he publicly criticized Hillary Clinton over in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election.
Comey’s private memos on Trump conversations contained classified material
So, who are these "officials", and do you have other information on this? Without more, this is just speculation...just as I can speculate that Mueller has likely already looked into this and found nothing.
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2018 11:14 AM by Redwingtom.)
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 11:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Quote:"No memo was given to me that was marked 'classified,'" Daniel Richman told CNN. "No memo was passed on to the Times."
Richman did share the contents of one memo, he said, but "the substance of the memo passed on to the Times was not marked classified and to my knowledge remains unclassified."
During Senate testimony in June, in which he said he gave memos to someone he described as a Columbia University professor, Comey said he specifically wrote the memos to avoid including classified information.
"My thinking was, if I write it in such a way that I don't include anything that would trigger a classification, that'll make it easier for us to discuss, within the FBI and the government, and to -- to hold on to it in a way that makes it accessible to us," Comey told senators.
Comey friend: No memos given to me were marked classified
Quote:More than half of the memos former FBI Director James Comey wrote as personal recollections of his conversations with President Trump about the Russia investigation have been determined to contain classified information, according to interviews with officials familiar with the documents.
This revelation raises the possibility that Comey broke his own agency’s rules and ignored the same security protocol that he publicly criticized Hillary Clinton over in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election.
Comey’s private memos on Trump conversations contained classified material
So, who are these "officials", and do you have other information on this? Without more, this is just speculation...just as I can speculate that Mueller has likely already looked into this and found nothing.
After listening to Hillary lie about this for 18 months, most intelligent americans know that something not being marked classified doesnt mean sh*t. Classified info is classified regardless of markings. The fact that Comey may have removed the markings will only pile on additional charges.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 11:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Quote:"No memo was given to me that was marked 'classified,'" Daniel Richman told CNN. "No memo was passed on to the Times."
Richman did share the contents of one memo, he said, but "the substance of the memo passed on to the Times was not marked classified and to my knowledge remains unclassified."
During Senate testimony in June, in which he said he gave memos to someone he described as a Columbia University professor, Comey said he specifically wrote the memos to avoid including classified information.
"My thinking was, if I write it in such a way that I don't include anything that would trigger a classification, that'll make it easier for us to discuss, within the FBI and the government, and to -- to hold on to it in a way that makes it accessible to us," Comey told senators.
Comey friend: No memos given to me were marked classified
Quote:More than half of the memos former FBI Director James Comey wrote as personal recollections of his conversations with President Trump about the Russia investigation have been determined to contain classified information, according to interviews with officials familiar with the documents.
This revelation raises the possibility that Comey broke his own agency’s rules and ignored the same security protocol that he publicly criticized Hillary Clinton over in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election.
Comey’s private memos on Trump conversations contained classified material
So, who are these "officials", and do you have other information on this? Without more, this is just speculation...just as I can speculate that Mueller has likely already looked into this and found nothing.
Whether his memos contained classified information or not, Comey has demonstrated he's a chicken-shyte rat who can't be trusted. Trump should have fired his sorry self-serving ass long before.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
Mueller just waiting for the next school shooting in which the FBI failed to do their job before indicting some more foreigners.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 11:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: Mueller just waiting for the next school shooting in which the FBI failed to do their job before indicting some more foreigners.
Asinine.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 11:21 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Quote:"No memo was given to me that was marked 'classified,'" Daniel Richman told CNN. "No memo was passed on to the Times."
Richman did share the contents of one memo, he said, but "the substance of the memo passed on to the Times was not marked classified and to my knowledge remains unclassified."
During Senate testimony in June, in which he said he gave memos to someone he described as a Columbia University professor, Comey said he specifically wrote the memos to avoid including classified information.
"My thinking was, if I write it in such a way that I don't include anything that would trigger a classification, that'll make it easier for us to discuss, within the FBI and the government, and to -- to hold on to it in a way that makes it accessible to us," Comey told senators.
Comey friend: No memos given to me were marked classified
Quote:More than half of the memos former FBI Director James Comey wrote as personal recollections of his conversations with President Trump about the Russia investigation have been determined to contain classified information, according to interviews with officials familiar with the documents.
This revelation raises the possibility that Comey broke his own agency’s rules and ignored the same security protocol that he publicly criticized Hillary Clinton over in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election.
Comey’s private memos on Trump conversations contained classified material
So, who are these "officials", and do you have other information on this? Without more, this is just speculation...just as I can speculate that Mueller has likely already looked into this and found nothing.
After listening to Hillary lie about this for 18 months, most intelligent americans know that something not being marked classified doesnt mean sh*t. Classified info is classified regardless of markings. The fact that Comey may have removed the markings will only pile on additional charges.
There you go again claiming someone is removing markings when you have not one shred of proof. And Comey's testimony under oath to Congress was that he did not include any classified information in what he gave. So unless you have some proof of perjury, I'll wait for it before lighting the torches.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
Running up the tab. 100 million dollar waste of money before its over.
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
(03-12-2018 12:23 PM)shere khan Wrote: Running up the tab. 100 million dollar waste of money before its over.
Yeah...you clearly need to put a price on the integrity of our electoral process when it comes to foreign interference.
Regardless, compared to most investigations, this one has actually been fairly cheap.
But I would like a source for your $100 million claim. Thanks. Meanwhile, through early December....
Mueller's investigation cost taxpayers $7 million, which is equal to Trump golfing at Mar-a-Lago twice
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RE: Mueller Weighs Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision
I notice you haven't disputed my comments about Comey being a chicken-shyte rat.
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