https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Tubby shouldn't get his full payout. He had his lawyer to say that Tubby wasn't responsible for putting butts in the seats. A big part of his contract was public relations.

Doesn't say what the clause is.

(03-11-2018 11:42 PM)Irse Wrote:  Doesn't say what the clause is.

If true I'd call it the Santa Clause.

(03-11-2018 11:42 PM)Irse Wrote:  Doesn't say what the clause is.

Quote:According to a clause in Smith’s contract, he can not be fired without cause “during the University of Memphis men’s basketball season, including postseason play.”

"If WE'd Done what we were supposed to have done..."

I presume he was referring to himself and his coaching staff. I honestly don't know what else the players could have done.They played as hard, consistently through the season, as any Tiger team I can remember.

If Tubby is willing to take the buyout, then Tubby should be willing to take the blame.

(03-12-2018 06:32 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 11:42 PM)Irse Wrote:  Doesn't say what the clause is.

Quote:According to a clause in Smith’s contract, he can not be fired without cause “during the University of Memphis men’s basketball season, including postseason play.”

I think he was referring to the clause that missing post season play would somehow reduce Tubby's final amount due.

(03-11-2018 10:58 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Where do you get that? It just seems that, now that the season is over, he can be fired. Did I miss something about the buyout?

(03-12-2018 07:46 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 10:58 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Where do you get that? It just seems that, now that the season is over, he can be fired. Did I miss something about the buyout?

Exactly...

All it says is he cannot be fired during the season.

I believe he did not read the article.

(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:46 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 10:58 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Where do you get that? It just seems that, now that the season is over, he can be fired. Did I miss something about the buyout?

Exactly...

All it says is he cannot be fired during the season.

I don't even know how that would be enforceable in practice.

No offset clause in the contract either per gianatto

Though someone on here mentioned it a few days ago too

Is he obligated to do the post game interview? I heard he skipped the show after the Cincinnati game.

(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:46 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 10:58 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Where do you get that? It just seems that, now that the season is over, he can be fired. Did I miss something about the buyout?

Exactly...

All it says is he cannot be fired during the season.

For any reason ? And if for cause---what constitutes cause.

(03-12-2018 07:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:46 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 10:58 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Where do you get that? It just seems that, now that the season is over, he can be fired. Did I miss something about the buyout?

Exactly...

All it says is he cannot be fired during the season.

For any reason ? And if for cause---what constitutes cause.

Says he can't be fired w/out cause while the team is still playing. There's probably a section enumerating what's for cause. Pastner's contract had things like gross violations of NCAArules. Violation of University, BOR, or state rules that apply to him as an employee of the University. Commission of a felony. Disappearing from the job. Becoming disabled such that he'd be completely unable to perform his duties.

There's was also a whole process the University had to go through, involving notice and an internal hearing in front of a panel chosen in part by Pastner.

Smith's contract probably has very similar provisions.

(03-12-2018 10:21 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:46 AM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 10:58 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mgiannotto/status/97...97057?s=21

Sounds like tubby may not get the full 10 mill.

Where do you get that? It just seems that, now that the season is over, he can be fired. Did I miss something about the buyout?

Exactly...

All it says is he cannot be fired during the season.

For any reason ? And if for cause---what constitutes cause.

Says he can't be fired w/out cause while the team is still playing. There's probably a section enumerating what's for cause. Pastner's contract had things like gross violations of NCAArules. Violation of University, BOR, or state rules that apply to him as an employee of the University. Commission of a felony. Disappearing from the job. Becoming disabled such that he'd be completely unable to perform his duties.

There's was also a whole process the University had to go through, involving notice and an internal hearing in front of a panel chosen in part by Pastner.

Smith's contract probably has very similar provisions.

Thank you for the response .

Even after (apparently) lying about death threats against him and his players, Florida football coach McElwain still got $7.5M of his $12.9M buyout. I suspect Tubby's lawyer will keep him from doing anything to jeopardize the full buyout.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/fl...story.html

A question for some of you legal beagles on here.

Tubby's contract provided for him to be paid X amount ($1.1 million?) for getting out there and promoting the team in media...etc etc like Calipari once did.
As he didn't seem to be doing much of that...would that in itself not constitute a reason for not giving him a full payout?

We paid you to sell our team to fans/recruits.
As you did not go about that in a guidelines set forth by the University...you don't get paid that amount of money for the job you were hired to do.

I'd appreciate a rational response..contracts are not my forte (I'm more of a computer guy)

(03-13-2018 07:23 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  A question for some of you legal beagles on here.

Tubby's contract provided for him to be paid X amount ($1.1 million?) for getting out there and promoting the team in media...etc etc like Calipari once did.
As he didn't seem to be doing much of that...would that in itself not constitute a reason for not giving him a full payout?

We paid you to sell our team to fans/recruits.
As you did not go about that in a guidelines set forth by the University...you don't get paid that amount of money for the job you were hired to do.

I'd appreciate a rational response..contracts are not my forte (I'm more of a computer guy)

He did all of his media obligations so he is getting the full buy out

Didn't he have a clause where if he lost to a team 3 times in one season he could be fired without cause, i.e. the Cincinnati clause?