(03-11-2018 08:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:01 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We were ready to load the SUV up with 7 fans, then they kicked us in the nuts sending us to san diego. Bunch of ********.

Better leave now if you want to get there in time by car.

False. I drove from San Diego California to Bowling Green Kentucky last October in 32 hours. I did take a small respite at a rest area in the middle of Texas. So it can be done quicker. My wife was pissed! Lol.

I bet, she didn't want to spend any more time in Texas than she had to huh?

How will you guys survive. Playing a team from that league, you will be lucky to escape with your lives.

(03-11-2018 05:28 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Match 2 G5 programs against each other in round 1 to ensure one gets knocked out. F the P5.

You don't understand how the NCAA tourn works. It's actually the exact opposite of football, where they would schedule 2 so called G5 together.

In basketball, they schedule the lower seeded mid major champ against a higher seeded power conf. team. This is always how it works. The exact opposite of football. Mid major programs do not attain top 4 seeds, with the possible exception of a program like Gonzaga. Wichita State is a major program and that is who Marshall was assigned to play. Show me anyone not named Gonzaga who is getting a high seed from a mid major conference.

(03-12-2018 07:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 08:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:01 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We were ready to load the SUV up with 7 fans, then they kicked us in the nuts sending us to san diego. Bunch of ********.

Better leave now if you want to get there in time by car.

False. I drove from San Diego California to Bowling Green Kentucky last October in 32 hours. I did take a small respite at a rest area in the middle of Texas. So it can be done quicker. My wife was pissed! Lol.

I bet, she didn't want to spend any more time in Texas than she had to huh?

Lol. You always gettin’ your digs in. Actually we had spent a week in Texas. Then on to the Grand Canyon and then on to California. She has two cousins that live in Texas. Great time was had. We finished our week in Texas at El Paso for the Western football game. Great stadium. Great people. Great food.

On the way back we left San Diego in the afternoon. We hit El Paso again on the way home. I stopped to gas up. It was midnight. She wanted me to stop and get a room. I wasn’t tired. I told her I’d drive until I got tired. Well that didn’t happen for another 5 hours. So I stopped at a rest area near Big Springs Tx on I-20. Reclined the seat and slept for a couple hours. Woke up and we hit a Micky Ds at the next exit.

By then I’m rejuvenated and think hell.....lets see how far we get. We got back into BG a little after midnight. The stretch of road from Little Rock to Memphis is one of the rings of Dante’s Hell. I’ve driven it many, many times in my life. I detest it day or night. I actually hate the state of Arkansas because of that stretch of highway. I actually hate Arkansas for that stretch almost as much as I hate Tennessee for their stretch from Murfreesboro to Chattanooga. Hilljack states that won’t improve their highway systems.

I don’t ever plan on making that drive again. Not straight through like that anyway. But once I get behind the wheel I sometimes get locked in. So I can’t say never.

I actually love Texas highways. Speed limit is 80 on them on the way to El Paso. Which means if you get in the left lane lets roll 90. You can rack up some miles when you’re rolling that fast.

Edit: I learned in Western Arizona going into California that the cruise control on my Infiniti won’t go any higher than 90. I was in a group of trucks/cars in the left lane on 40-W and we were flat out rolling. I had the cruise set and kept bumping the up button. It stayed on 90. So I had to foot push it to stay with my little convoy. That’s the day I learned engineers probably think nobody needs to set their cruise control over 90. Maybe some other models will. But not Infiniti.

(03-11-2018 08:50 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Of course they givr Marshall one of the worst matchups for them.

I'm not so sure. We actually match up quite well IMHO. Two teams with little D and top flight offenses.

First to 100 wins!

I mean, honestly, I hate we play another mid-major. I wanted to take down a blue blood. Arizona as another 4 seed would have been nice...

No complaints though otherwise. I'm confident we'll show up.

Show me just one credible national pundit who lists the AAC conference as a mid major in basketball.

(03-12-2018 11:18 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 08:50 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Of course they givr Marshall one of the worst matchups for them.

I'm not so sure. We actually match up quite well IMHO. Two teams with little D and top flight offenses.

First to 100 wins!

I mean, honestly, I hate we play another mid-major. I wanted to take down a blue blood. Arizona as another 4 seed would have been nice...

No complaints though otherwise. I'm confident we'll show up.

Show me just one credible national pundit who lists the AAC conference as a mid major in basketball.

A leopard can't change it's spots. You are what your conference says you are ...... G5 = Mid Major.

(03-12-2018 08:28 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  How will you guys survive. Playing a team from that league, you will be lucky to escape with your lives.

The American? I know Wichita State is new to that league, but we’re like undefeated in every sport against that league... that big “A” on the chest is like an auto-loss to Marshall.

(03-11-2018 05:28 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Match 2 G5 programs against each other in round 1 to ensure one gets knocked out. F the P5.

There is no G5 in BB. There is a P7 which includes the P5, BE, and AAC, then the mid majors..

In college basketball, it's not the same as football. In basketball, the conference you play in is irrelevant to your standing on a national level.

Memphis, Butler, Cincinnati, Wichita State, Gonzaga, Shaka Smart VCU days...sure they're all considered good programs, but their conference affiliation isn't what gave them their success.

And even though UCONN plays in the American, their natural home is the ACC or Big East in basketball.

(03-11-2018 05:43 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Another matchup agaibst Benedict Donald! We are usually 100 against him!

The arch rival in round 2 with a win...

This is the most interesting part of the draw - possibly West Virginia next. Does that give Marshall the extra boost they need to win game 1? Kind of a bad luck draw for Wichita.

The AAC guys here are hilarious.

There is no doubt that the American has 3 fantastic teams this year. This is an amazing year for the conference. But one year does not make you a high major in the mind of most. Have 3 teams like that every year and that perception will def change.

(03-13-2018 07:57 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 05:43 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Another matchup agaibst Benedict Donald! We are usually 100 against him!

The arch rival in round 2 with a win...

This is the most interesting part of the draw - possibly West Virginia next. Does that give Marshall the extra boost they need to win game 1? Kind of a bad luck draw for Wichita.

The AAC guys here are hilarious.

The Wichita State game is gonna be bananas. However, if we can witness a WVU vs Marshall matchup on Sunday, oh man.

I see this Wichita State team as a slightly deeper WKU/UAB. They're gonna get theirs inside and rebounding. From what I can tell, what makes them even more dangerous is they have a few guys who can match us from outside.

This should be a fun and fairly high scoring game. WSU has a great offense but the defense is only a little above average.

The way I see it Marshall needs a few things to happen for a win.

1. One of your guards needs to have a big (and efficient) scoring game. We've had lots of guards go off for career highs on us this year and guys that can drive and score or drive and kick have given us fits several times this year.
2. You have to be able to keep WSU off the offensive glass. We average over 12 offensive rebounds a game and already have a very efficient offence so you won't be able to afford to give us a bunch of extra chances.
3. Limit our inside game and hope we don't get hot from 3. Its unlikely that our post players can be completely stopped but if you can make them work hard for their points and not be terribly efficient you might be able to force us into live and die by the 3 mode.

Congrats on making the tourney and here's hoping for a good game.

(03-13-2018 09:21 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  This should be a fun and fairly high scoring game. WSU has a great offense but the defense is only a little above average.

The way I see it Marshall needs a few things to happen for a win.

1. One of your guards needs to have a big (and efficient) scoring game. We've had lots of guards go off for career highs on us this year and guys that can drive and score or drive and kick have given us fits several times this year.
2. You have to be able to keep WSU off the offensive glass. We average over 12 offensive rebounds a game and already have a very efficient offence so you won't be able to afford to give us a bunch of extra chances.
3. Limit our inside game and hope we don't get hot from 3. Its unlikely that our post players can be completely stopped but if you can make them work hard for their points and not be terribly efficient you might be able to force us into live and die by the 3 mode.

Congrats on making the tourney and here's hoping for a good game.

Sounds like you have your hands full. Everything you say they need to do, they do well. Hope it is a good game either way.

(03-13-2018 10:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 09:21 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  This should be a fun and fairly high scoring game. WSU has a great offense but the defense is only a little above average.

The way I see it Marshall needs a few things to happen for a win.

1. One of your guards needs to have a big (and efficient) scoring game. We've had lots of guards go off for career highs on us this year and guys that can drive and score or drive and kick have given us fits several times this year.
2. You have to be able to keep WSU off the offensive glass. We average over 12 offensive rebounds a game and already have a very efficient offence so you won't be able to afford to give us a bunch of extra chances.
3. Limit our inside game and hope we don't get hot from 3. Its unlikely that our post players can be completely stopped but if you can make them work hard for their points and not be terribly efficient you might be able to force us into live and die by the 3 mode.

Congrats on making the tourney and here's hoping for a good game.

Sounds like you have your hands full. Everything you say they need to do, they do well. Hope it is a good game either way.

I haven't seen Marshall play this year but the numbers say that Marshall will probably have some trouble with #2. Per Kenpom WSU is 10th in offensive rebound % and Marshall is 299th in offensive rebound % allowed so that will be something to watch for sure.

One thing I like about this matchup is the style we can expect. Marshall has the 3rd shortest average possession length in the country and WSU is perfectly happy to get up and down the court as well so it should be a high scoring affair and a nice change of pace from our conference which has a bunch of slow it down and grind it out teams.

I have Marshall winning this one in my bracket, then facing WVU next. Elmore will need to channel his inner Steph Curry and every 50/50 ball needs to go their way, but I think it's definitely possible.

(03-13-2018 10:25 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 10:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 09:21 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  This should be a fun and fairly high scoring game. WSU has a great offense but the defense is only a little above average.

The way I see it Marshall needs a few things to happen for a win.

1. One of your guards needs to have a big (and efficient) scoring game. We've had lots of guards go off for career highs on us this year and guys that can drive and score or drive and kick have given us fits several times this year.
2. You have to be able to keep WSU off the offensive glass. We average over 12 offensive rebounds a game and already have a very efficient offence so you won't be able to afford to give us a bunch of extra chances.
3. Limit our inside game and hope we don't get hot from 3. Its unlikely that our post players can be completely stopped but if you can make them work hard for their points and not be terribly efficient you might be able to force us into live and die by the 3 mode.

Congrats on making the tourney and here's hoping for a good game.

Sounds like you have your hands full. Everything you say they need to do, they do well. Hope it is a good game either way.

I haven't seen Marshall play this year but the numbers say that Marshall will probably have some trouble with #2. Per Kenpom WSU is 10th in offensive rebound % and Marshall is 299th in offensive rebound % allowed so that will be something to watch for sure.

One thing I like about this matchup is the style we can expect. Marshall has the 3rd shortest average possession length in the country and WSU is perfectly happy to get up and down the court as well so it should be a high scoring affair and a nice change of pace from our conference which has a bunch of slow it down and grind it out teams.

Like it. We can certainly keep up the pace. We have one of the highest per play paces in all of college. Just look at who our coach and who his brother is...

I can attest that we will have trouble with your number two as well. We're not really known as a rebounding team. However, if you have trouble with guards, Marshall is not a team you want to be playing. Both Elmore and Burks have the ability to light it up and score in bunches.

The one question I have for my Wichita State friends. I've always looked at your team as an athletic D minded team, so y'all have made some evolution in your style?

How is your perimeter D?

(03-13-2018 10:51 AM)rileylives Wrote:  The one question I have for my Wichita State friends. I've always looked at your team as an athletic D minded team, so y'all have made some evolution in your style?

How is your perimeter D?

Piss poor.

This years team is statistically the worst defensive team we've had in a while. While we have played good defense in fits and starts it hasn't been great overall. Having said that its still an above average defense, just not what we are used to.

Our offense on the other hand is by far the best we've had in a long time. Some of our recent teams have been offensively challenged from time to time. That hasn't really been the case with this group of players, we have a lot of weapons.

Marshall is the king of drive it then kick it out for a open 3 pointer, if you give Marshall a inch, they are going to blast you from 3.