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RE: TBS Selection Show (awful)
(03-11-2018 05:39 PM)spenser Wrote:  Alabama, Arizona State, Butler, Creighton, Florida, Florida State, Missouri, NC State, Oklahoma, Providence, Seton Hall, Syracuse, Texas A&M, TCU, and UCLA should not be in over USC and St. Mary's. Heck even Memphis is better than half of those.

Haha! Try watching some basketball, then you may get a clue!
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RE: TBS Selection Show (awful)
(03-11-2018 06:11 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:46 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:41 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:17 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I like the format....

Glad to see the MW get 2 bids.

Outside of the audio not syncing, I've got no issue with naming the 68 entries first.

They need to switch from alphabetical order to ranking order.

USC finishes 14-7, Arizona St finishes 8-11. ASU finishes 1-5 with the lone win over 8-23 California and losses to Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, & a 12 point loss to Colorado.

ASU is in, USC is out.
So, USC beat two #1 seeds?

Let’s put St John’s in. 2 games > 20
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RE: TBS Selection Show (awful)
(03-11-2018 06:11 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:46 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:41 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:17 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I like the format....

Glad to see the MW get 2 bids.

Outside of the audio not syncing, I've got no issue with naming the 68 entries first.

They need to switch from alphabetical order to ranking order.

USC finishes 14-7, Arizona St finishes 8-11. ASU finishes 1-5 with the lone win over 8-23 California and losses to Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, & a 12 point loss to Colorado.

ASU is in, USC is out.
So, USC beat two #1 seeds?

When? Last year?

Obviously I’m making a point about ASU not deserving to get in.
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(03-11-2018 06:18 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 06:11 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:46 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:41 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:17 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I like the format....

Glad to see the MW get 2 bids.

Outside of the audio not syncing, I've got no issue with naming the 68 entries first.

They need to switch from alphabetical order to ranking order.

USC finishes 14-7, Arizona St finishes 8-11. ASU finishes 1-5 with the lone win over 8-23 California and losses to Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, & a 12 point loss to Colorado.

ASU is in, USC is out.
So, USC beat two #1 seeds?

Let’s put St John’s in. 2 games > 20
Nice try.
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(03-11-2018 06:19 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 06:11 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:46 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:41 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:17 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I like the format....

Glad to see the MW get 2 bids.

Outside of the audio not syncing, I've got no issue with naming the 68 entries first.

They need to switch from alphabetical order to ranking order.

USC finishes 14-7, Arizona St finishes 8-11. ASU finishes 1-5 with the lone win over 8-23 California and losses to Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, & a 12 point loss to Colorado.

ASU is in, USC is out.
So, USC beat two #1 seeds?

When? Last year?

Obviously I’m making a point about ASU not deserving to get in.
Exactly. Arizona St beat both Kansas and Xavier this season!
03-11-2018 06:22 PM
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(03-11-2018 06:07 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Damn, Syracuse made it.

RPI matters.

USC is in the mid 30s.

So, we have a new RPI line for majors. Since, before this season, you were probably safe if you were in the top 40 as a major. USC is #34. Louisville was #38.

This one still found a way to steer away from things, though. Three at-larges from the 60-70 range. KenPom didn't hate them nearly as much as RPI, but, you still saw USC and Louisville better in both RPI and KP than NCST and ASU. SMC better than numerous ones, too.

St. Bonaventure is the metric-killer this season. RPI 24 and KP 69...nobody is nearly that uneven that made the field. Still wondering how they get in. A10 did not deserve this, and I'm a big A10 fan.
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(03-11-2018 06:22 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 06:19 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 06:11 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:46 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 05:41 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  Outside of the audio not syncing, I've got no issue with naming the 68 entries first.

They need to switch from alphabetical order to ranking order.

USC finishes 14-7, Arizona St finishes 8-11. ASU finishes 1-5 with the lone win over 8-23 California and losses to Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, & a 12 point loss to Colorado.

ASU is in, USC is out.
So, USC beat two #1 seeds?

When? Last year?

Obviously I’m making a point about ASU not deserving to get in.
Exactly. Arizona St beat both Kansas and Xavier this season!

And then then finished with a losing record in worst “P6” conference. I’m just glad they’re going to provide an equally undeserving Syracuse team with a tournament victory for the conference fanboys!
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You all complaining about ASU haven't been paying attention to the selection criteria

ASU beat two number one seeds
Beat both Kansas and KSU on the road
Swept UCLA/USC
Beat San Diego St


USC only beat ONE tourney team - New Mexico St.
03-11-2018 07:06 PM
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Exactly like the guy who mentioned St. John’s then. You can’t lose most of your conference games and expect to be rewarded. Who cares if a team won games in November? I think UNC lost to Winthrop in November and won the title. They should have never eliminated the “what have you done recently” clause. I don’t even have a dog in this fight, but ASU played like garbage in conference and Syracuse is in because of name only.
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Also, KSU....haaawuut?
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They did make it to the Pac final. Sigh, if only Alabama had lost their last two games and Rhode Island beat Davidson. I'm sure SMC, USC and Notre Dame would have made it. Had Texas lost to Iowa State, there's USC's spot.
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(03-11-2018 07:06 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You all complaining about ASU haven't been paying attention to the selection criteria

ASU beat two number one seeds
Beat both Kansas and KSU on the road
Swept UCLA/USC
Beat San Diego St


USC only beat ONE tourney team - New Mexico St.

They beat two - Cal State Fullerton was the other.
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(03-11-2018 07:24 PM)esayem Wrote:  Exactly like the guy who mentioned St. John’s then. You can’t lose most of your conference games and expect to be rewarded. Who cares if a team won games in November? I think UNC lost to Winthrop in November and won the title. They should have never eliminated the “what have you done recently” clause. I don’t even have a dog in this fight, but ASU played like garbage in conference and Syracuse is in because of name only.

The problem with the "in the last ten" criteria is it can punish teams in really good conferences, compared to those in worse conferences. Though if it's just one set of criteria, why not use it?
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(03-11-2018 07:30 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 07:06 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You all complaining about ASU haven't been paying attention to the selection criteria

ASU beat two number one seeds
Beat both Kansas and KSU on the road
Swept UCLA/USC
Beat San Diego St


USC only beat ONE tourney team - New Mexico St.

They beat two - Cal State Fullerton was the other.

Which for the purpose of this conversation, doesn't count. Heck, NMSU almost doesn't count.
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(03-11-2018 07:06 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You all complaining about ASU haven't been paying attention to the selection criteria

ASU beat two number one seeds
Beat both Kansas and KSU on the road
Swept UCLA/USC
Beat San Diego St


USC only beat ONE tourney team - New Mexico St.

I'm not sure the selection committee listens to its own criteria anymore.
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They could have done this online and people could have read it for the info in three minutes.

The concept of a "selection show" is ridiculous and is just "fake hype".
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(03-11-2018 08:34 PM)TerryD Wrote:  They could have done this online and people could have read it for the info in three minutes.

The concept of a "selection show" is ridiculous and is just "fake hype".

As Terry D said with bitter beer face!

Hey man, the Irish were playing way better ball than the Orange, I feel ya brotha!
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Seems like they kind of pick randomly, each year the criteria is different.


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(03-11-2018 08:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(03-11-2018 08:34 PM)TerryD Wrote:  They could have done this online and people could have read it for the info in three minutes.

The concept of a "selection show" is ridiculous and is just "fake hype".

As Terry D said with bitter beer face!

Hey man, the Irish were playing way better ball than the Orange, I feel ya brotha!

Davidson booted ND out.

The committee sure liked the ACC.
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