(03-11-2018 06:35 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:15 PM)monarx Wrote:  The NCAA knows what it’s doing. They are marginalizing the non P5 to the level where we will eventually say this is enough and leave. That’s what they want. To separate without looking like they’re kicking us out.

I'm actually good with that. Tired of being humiliated. I'd love to see the NIT become an exclusively G5 tourney.

French?

We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

(03-11-2018 06:35 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:15 PM)monarx Wrote:  The NCAA knows what it’s doing. They are marginalizing the non P5 to the level where we will eventually say this is enough and leave. That’s what they want. To separate without looking like they’re kicking us out.

I'm actually good with that. Tired of being humiliated. I'd love to see the NIT become an exclusively G5 tourney.

Nobody would watch that. Good luck with that. For sure wouldn't be at MSG.

The selections get worse and worse every year. Only thing to do is not watch and support your mid major team when you can.

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

Yes even with lopsided officiating that favored the home team Marshall gave Xavier all they could handle.

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

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No one said it was jaded towards CUSA just the power conference teams have the advantage. Syracuse for example played one true road game before conference games, an overtime win against a mediocre Georgetown and won in OT. All they have to do is win 8 conference games and they are in the NCAA tourney. The ACC is a very good league but 8 games really?

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

Ucf is a middle of the pack (at best) AAC team that beat Alabama on the road and beat Nebraska on a neutral court. That is how you build a conference rpi and get credit for more good wins. Mtsu was good enough but it is hard to justify a bid considering they lost to 2 bad teams at the end. Swing back next season without any bad losses and you get mtsu in. I do think the c-usa can start getting 2 bids. Got to get better in the middle group of the league.

(03-11-2018 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

Ucf is a middle of the pack (at best) AAC team that beat Alabama on the road and beat Nebraska on a neutral court. That is how you build a conference rpi and get credit for more good wins. Mtsu was good enough but it is hard to justify a bid considering they lost to 2 bad teams at the end. Swing back next season without any bad losses and you get mtsu in. I do think the c-usa can start getting 2 bids. Got to get better in the middle group of the league.

I tend to agree. UAB, Charlotte, and UTEP need to up their game and the league will end up considerably better overall.

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The fact of the matter is the bad teams in this conference are just as bad as the terrible teams from conferences like the ASun and NEC, teams like Bryant U and USC Upstate (or worse than them even). It’s completely avoidable given the resources of our universities compared to the crappier D1 programs. If we want multiple bids, they’ve got to stop being so terrible and scheduling themselves for 300+ RPIs. Until that happens we will be stuck as a one bid league.

(03-11-2018 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

Ucf is a middle of the pack (at best) AAC team that beat Alabama on the road and beat Nebraska on a neutral court. That is how you build a conference rpi and get credit for more good wins. Mtsu was good enough but it is hard to justify a bid considering they lost to 2 bad teams at the end. Swing back next season without any bad losses and you get mtsu in. I do think the c-usa can start getting 2 bids. Got to get better in the middle group of the league.

It is almost to the point that the only midmajor that can get an at-large is Gonzaga, since they already have established series with the P5s. Only other route would be winning your preseason tournaments since one or two wins isn't enough and then finishing the season something like 28-2. They seem to have one token mid-major they show respect to every year. This year was Nevada. Nevada deserved the bid, but the difference between their resume and MTSU's was not the difference between a 7 seed and a NIT 3 seed. They beat Rhode Island and Davidson at home and lost the two road P5 games on their schedule plus 3 conference games and the conference tournament. They do have a gaudy RPI, but aside from that, look at the schedule and tell my why they are that much better in the committee's eyes than MTSU. They both look like 10 or 11 seeds.

(03-12-2018 03:02 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

Ucf is a middle of the pack (at best) AAC team that beat Alabama on the road and beat Nebraska on a neutral court. That is how you build a conference rpi and get credit for more good wins. Mtsu was good enough but it is hard to justify a bid considering they lost to 2 bad teams at the end. Swing back next season without any bad losses and you get mtsu in. I do think the c-usa can start getting 2 bids. Got to get better in the middle group of the league.

I tend to agree. UAB, Charlotte, and UTEP need to up their game and the league will end up considerably better overall.

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Agreed. UTEP has a shot now to improve with our new AD and a new coaching hire about to happen. We need a solid hire and I think we are going to get it.

(03-12-2018 07:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is almost to the point that the only midmajor that can get an at-large is Gonzaga, since they already have established series with the P5s. Only other route would be winning your preseason tournaments since one or two wins isn't enough and then finishing the season something like 28-2. They seem to have one token mid-major they show respect to every year. This year was Nevada. Nevada deserved the bid, but the difference between their resume and MTSU's was not the difference between a 7 seed and a NIT 3 seed. They beat Rhode Island and Davidson at home and lost the two road P5 games on their schedule plus 3 conference games and the conference tournament. They do have a gaudy RPI, but aside from that, look at the schedule and tell my why they are that much better in the committee's eyes than MTSU. They both look like 10 or 11 seeds.

Was surprised even St Mary's was left out

(03-11-2018 06:56 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  We have 3 bids and could have had a few more if they'd have done better. There's no conspiracy, CUSA just did not fully perform to their best abilities.

The top 4 in C-USA can play with anyone in the country. That's already been proven. Your comment is absurd.

Yes even with lopsided officiating that favored the home team Marshall gave Xavier all they could handle.

Marshall did give Xavier a good game, but Xavier was not at full strength for the game. Xavier was without two starters when they played Marshall and lost another starter for the second half of the game. In addition, they had two other players just coming off suspension for the game. Maybe the game would have close if Xavier was at full strength?

(03-12-2018 08:05 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is almost to the point that the only midmajor that can get an at-large is Gonzaga, since they already have established series with the P5s. Only other route would be winning your preseason tournaments since one or two wins isn't enough and then finishing the season something like 28-2. They seem to have one token mid-major they show respect to every year. This year was Nevada. Nevada deserved the bid, but the difference between their resume and MTSU's was not the difference between a 7 seed and a NIT 3 seed. They beat Rhode Island and Davidson at home and lost the two road P5 games on their schedule plus 3 conference games and the conference tournament. They do have a gaudy RPI, but aside from that, look at the schedule and tell my why they are that much better in the committee's eyes than MTSU. They both look like 10 or 11 seeds.

Was surprised even St Mary's was left out

St Mary's OOC was awful. They were apparently offered home and home's with Creighton and Rhode Island but they turned both down. They couldn't beat Washington or Georgia, if they win one of those they're probably in, but they only played 2 true road games OOC. That's simply not good enough for a team in WCC.

(03-12-2018 08:49 AM)CincyDave Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 08:05 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is almost to the point that the only midmajor that can get an at-large is Gonzaga, since they already have established series with the P5s. Only other route would be winning your preseason tournaments since one or two wins isn't enough and then finishing the season something like 28-2. They seem to have one token mid-major they show respect to every year. This year was Nevada. Nevada deserved the bid, but the difference between their resume and MTSU's was not the difference between a 7 seed and a NIT 3 seed. They beat Rhode Island and Davidson at home and lost the two road P5 games on their schedule plus 3 conference games and the conference tournament. They do have a gaudy RPI, but aside from that, look at the schedule and tell my why they are that much better in the committee's eyes than MTSU. They both look like 10 or 11 seeds.

Was surprised even St Mary's was left out

St Mary's OOC was awful. They were apparently offered home and home's with Creighton and Rhode Island but they turned both down. They couldn't beat Washington or Georgia, if they win one of those they're probably in, but they only played 2 true road games OOC. That's simply not good enough for a team in WCC.

And yet they were still in the top 25