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(03-22-2018 11:07 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 10:53 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

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(03-22-2018 10:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  They certainly could have been Loyola Chicago or Nevada. So could have MTSU when they were firing on all cylinders back in Jan-Feb. It is all about peaking at the right time. MTSU and ODU peaked too early, WKU peaked too late. Marshall peaked at the right time, but had a lower ceiling, IMO. As good of a scorer and passer as Elmore is, I have to think Hollingsworth, Caver, and Poots all would have done an exponentially better job against the WVU pressure. Then again, we most likely wouldn't have been able to outscore Wichita State by raining 3s so maybe it wouldn't matter anyway.

LOL. MTSU won't have Poots next year.

LOL. That is the best typo ever.

Not quite. I sent an email to my General Manager about 15 years ago. After quickly troubleshooting his computer, I let him know that his hard disk was broken. Unfortunately, I misspelled "disk".

He never said anything so I guess he understood the message.

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(03-22-2018 09:10 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  WKU is playing REALLY good ball right now. The way they look right now, its hard to imagine how they didn't win CUSA. This team has talent all over the floor and is playing with a ton of energy and focus. Stansbury is by all accounts a complete dirt bag (so was Kermit is a previous life), but he really deserves some kudos for the job he has done this year. I think had WKU made the NCAAT, we may have been looking at a Elite Eight, depending on matchups.

They're going to be very hard to beat for years to come. We need to up our recruiting desperately. Who knows, maybe Jeff Jones can't get it done?

Just think about how strong they would have been if that 5* center that couldn't make up his mind about honoring his commitment had stayed on campus. Oh my...

(03-22-2018 12:12 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  Just think about how strong they would have been if that 5* center that couldn't make up his mind about honoring his commitment had stayed on campus. Oh my...

But, maybe WKY had more money to spend on the others?

(03-22-2018 12:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 12:12 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  Just think about how strong they would have been if that 5* center that couldn't make up his mind about honoring his commitment had stayed on campus. Oh my...

But, maybe WKY had more money to spend on the others?

Think this is as good a place to drop this link;
http://wkuherald.com/sports/former-wku-c...fcb6f.html

(03-22-2018 08:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  CAA has some advantages. There are less schools competing for a single bid, which improve the odds and a shitton more of them are close enough to follow. WKU and MTSU are no doubt better than CoC and Northeastern, but that isn't improving our chances of dancing.

I just don't happen to be one that thinks CUSA has hurt ODU's basketball at all. One could argue that our choice of a coach might have more to do with it, which might be a better excuse. I think our chances to win CUSA on a cold shooting night in Frisco are the exact same MTSU's, WKU's, or UAB's chances to win it. This year we competed with them but we weren't better than them. That's the goal for me. I don't blame the conference, the distance, certainly don't care about VCU's successful path, or anything else contained in that large bag of losing excuses.

ODU needs to win this league. Or at least compete better in it so at large conversations come back into play. This year could have been that year had we gotten a quality win. We didn't. Losing 3 times to WKU in a season and losing forever to MTSU over a number of seasons does not mean CUSA is a crap league. I'm a long way from those on here that complain that the league is trash. I think this league is tough as a MF, which is exactly why we haven't been able to take the title. And I want ODU in a league where winning titles is not easy. That means teams around you have ambition too. At some point I hope ODU wins it and would love to see us roll at the top for a while, ala Memphis. We would all celebrate a little harder. We're clearly not even sniffing that now. But I don't buy into the "give up" and move down strategy so we can dominate schools that have no shot against us.

I'll go back to my earlier question from weeks ago, how many people on here would be complaining about a travel budget (that we're not paid to manage-mind you) if ODU was in MTSU's seat and had won 2 straight CUSA titles before this year? None of you. Instead, most of you would spend most of your time on other teams sites bragging about how they should be scheduling better, offering condescending suggestions for bringing their programs forward. We used to see it all the time but now it's a little embarrassing to go over there so instead let's stay here and kill the ODU administration on our own boards instead. At least Razor, MdMonarch, MBlue and a few others point the furor at the coach. I'm not totally there, but it makes a lot more sense than saying conference has killed our hoops when it has produced 4 straight years exactly what ODU has done in its best years--a first round NCAA win.

So just call it like it is. You hate this league because it has been too tough to win. You can continue to nail all the excuses: temperature in buildings, distance on flights, lack of rivalries, more money in Wood's budget, etc. But the real truth is we have to be tougher like WKU is doing right now after back to back wins on USC's and OSU's courts. We have to be more consistent like MTSU has been over the years. And most importantly, we have to rise up and win in those games when we're playing against teams that have as much talent as we do. End.

(03-22-2018 12:44 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  CAA has some advantages. There are less schools competing for a single bid, which improve the odds and a shitton more of them are close enough to follow. WKU and MTSU are no doubt better than CoC and Northeastern, but that isn't improving our chances of dancing.

I just don't happen to be one that thinks CUSA has hurt ODU's basketball at all. One could argue that our choice of a coach might have more to do with it, which might be a better excuse. I think our chances to win CUSA on a cold shooting night in Frisco are the exact same MTSU's, WKU's, or UAB's chances to win it. This year we competed with them but we weren't better than them. That's the goal for me. I don't blame the conference, the distance, certainly don't care about VCU's successful path, or anything else contained in that large bag of losing excuses.

ODU needs to win this league. Or at least compete better in it so at large conversations come back into play. This year could have been that year had we gotten a quality win. We didn't. Losing 3 times to WKU in a season and losing forever to MTSU over a number of seasons does not mean CUSA is a crap league. I'm a long way from those on here that complain that the league is trash. I think this league is tough as a MF, which is exactly why we haven't been able to take the title. And I want ODU in a league where winning titles is not easy. That means teams around you have ambition too. At some point I hope ODU wins it and would love to see us roll at the top for a while, ala Memphis. We would all celebrate a little harder. We're clearly not even sniffing that now. But I don't buy into the "give up" and move down strategy so we can dominate schools that have no shot against us.

I'll go back to my earlier question from weeks ago, how many people on here would be complaining about a travel budget (that we're not paid to manage-mind you) if ODU was in MTSU's seat and had won 2 straight CUSA titles before this year? None of you. Instead, most of you would spend most of your time on other teams sites bragging about how they should be scheduling better, offering condescending suggestions for bringing their programs forward. We used to see it all the time but now it's a little embarrassing to go over there so instead let's stay here and kill the ODU administration on our own boards instead. At least Razor, MdMonarch, MBlue and a few others point the furor at the coach. I'm not totally there, but it makes a lot more sense than saying conference has killed our hoops when it has produced 4 straight years exactly what ODU has done in its best years--a first round NCAA win.

So just call it like it is. You hate this league because it has been too tough to win. You can continue to nail all the excuses: temperature in buildings, distance on flights, lack of rivalries, more money in Wood's budget, etc. But the real truth is we have to be tougher like WKU is doing right now after back to back wins on USC's and OSU's courts. We have to be more consistent like MTSU has been over the years. And most importantly, we have to rise up and win in those games when we're playing against teams that have as much talent as we do. End.

This conference is a dumpster fire, sorry, it is what it is. If we were in the CAA, we probably would have been in the dance twice already under JJ and seeded at least as good as the CUSA rep.

You do make some good points about tough league blah blah blah, but we are getting nothing out of this arrangement? If we are going to be in a 1-bid league, what is the advantage of being in one with 14 schools with a conference tournamnet across the country vs one with 10 schools and a conference tournament 6 hours away? We get to probably watch Virginia Tech beat us by 40+ points at Foreman Field. That is what we got out of the move.

You talk about how great WKU and MTSU are, well guess what? They are in the NIT. MTSU caught a bad USM team playing out of their minds and WKU caught Marshall less than 24 hours after their rock fight with us and Marshall's finesse game of footsie with USM. You inadvertently made my point for me.

You can blame JJ for not winning the tournament, but what good is that going to do? You all love him and he isn't going anywhere. Even if he did, Lil' Woody doesn't have the capability to hire a better replacement. Blaine's 4 NCAA teams would have also been in the NIT with this schedule, so yeah, JJ can be a scapegoat, but short of hiring Rick Pitino and praying he keeps us out of sanctions, we aren't going to the tournament without luck.

(03-22-2018 12:44 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  CAA has some advantages. There are less schools competing for a single bid, which improve the odds and a shitton more of them are close enough to follow. WKU and MTSU are no doubt better than CoC and Northeastern, but that isn't improving our chances of dancing.

I just don't happen to be one that thinks CUSA has hurt ODU's basketball at all. One could argue that our choice of a coach might have more to do with it, which might be a better excuse. I think our chances to win CUSA on a cold shooting night in Frisco are the exact same MTSU's, WKU's, or UAB's chances to win it. This year we competed with them but we weren't better than them. That's the goal for me. I don't blame the conference, the distance, certainly don't care about VCU's successful path, or anything else contained in that large bag of losing excuses.

ODU needs to win this league. Or at least compete better in it so at large conversations come back into play. This year could have been that year had we gotten a quality win. We didn't. Losing 3 times to WKU in a season and losing forever to MTSU over a number of seasons does not mean CUSA is a crap league. I'm a long way from those on here that complain that the league is trash. I think this league is tough as a MF, which is exactly why we haven't been able to take the title. And I want ODU in a league where winning titles is not easy. That means teams around you have ambition too. At some point I hope ODU wins it and would love to see us roll at the top for a while, ala Memphis. We would all celebrate a little harder. We're clearly not even sniffing that now. But I don't buy into the "give up" and move down strategy so we can dominate schools that have no shot against us.

I'll go back to my earlier question from weeks ago, how many people on here would be complaining about a travel budget (that we're not paid to manage-mind you) if ODU was in MTSU's seat and had won 2 straight CUSA titles before this year? None of you. Instead, most of you would spend most of your time on other teams sites bragging about how they should be scheduling better, offering condescending suggestions for bringing their programs forward. We used to see it all the time but now it's a little embarrassing to go over there so instead let's stay here and kill the ODU administration on our own boards instead. At least Razor, MdMonarch, MBlue and a few others point the furor at the coach. I'm not totally there, but it makes a lot more sense than saying conference has killed our hoops when it has produced 4 straight years exactly what ODU has done in its best years--a first round NCAA win.

So just call it like it is. You hate this league because it has been too tough to win. You can continue to nail all the excuses: temperature in buildings, distance on flights, lack of rivalries, more money in Wood's budget, etc. But the real truth is we have to be tougher like WKU is doing right now after back to back wins on USC's and OSU's courts. We have to be more consistent like MTSU has been over the years. And most importantly, we have to rise up and win in those games when we're playing against teams that have as much talent as we do. End.

(03-22-2018 01:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 12:44 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  CAA has some advantages. There are less schools competing for a single bid, which improve the odds and a shitton more of them are close enough to follow. WKU and MTSU are no doubt better than CoC and Northeastern, but that isn't improving our chances of dancing.

I just don't happen to be one that thinks CUSA has hurt ODU's basketball at all. One could argue that our choice of a coach might have more to do with it, which might be a better excuse. I think our chances to win CUSA on a cold shooting night in Frisco are the exact same MTSU's, WKU's, or UAB's chances to win it. This year we competed with them but we weren't better than them. That's the goal for me. I don't blame the conference, the distance, certainly don't care about VCU's successful path, or anything else contained in that large bag of losing excuses.

ODU needs to win this league. Or at least compete better in it so at large conversations come back into play. This year could have been that year had we gotten a quality win. We didn't. Losing 3 times to WKU in a season and losing forever to MTSU over a number of seasons does not mean CUSA is a crap league. I'm a long way from those on here that complain that the league is trash. I think this league is tough as a MF, which is exactly why we haven't been able to take the title. And I want ODU in a league where winning titles is not easy. That means teams around you have ambition too. At some point I hope ODU wins it and would love to see us roll at the top for a while, ala Memphis. We would all celebrate a little harder. We're clearly not even sniffing that now. But I don't buy into the "give up" and move down strategy so we can dominate schools that have no shot against us.

I'll go back to my earlier question from weeks ago, how many people on here would be complaining about a travel budget (that we're not paid to manage-mind you) if ODU was in MTSU's seat and had won 2 straight CUSA titles before this year? None of you. Instead, most of you would spend most of your time on other teams sites bragging about how they should be scheduling better, offering condescending suggestions for bringing their programs forward. We used to see it all the time but now it's a little embarrassing to go over there so instead let's stay here and kill the ODU administration on our own boards instead. At least Razor, MdMonarch, MBlue and a few others point the furor at the coach. I'm not totally there, but it makes a lot more sense than saying conference has killed our hoops when it has produced 4 straight years exactly what ODU has done in its best years--a first round NCAA win.

So just call it like it is. You hate this league because it has been too tough to win. You can continue to nail all the excuses: temperature in buildings, distance on flights, lack of rivalries, more money in Wood's budget, etc. But the real truth is we have to be tougher like WKU is doing right now after back to back wins on USC's and OSU's courts. We have to be more consistent like MTSU has been over the years. And most importantly, we have to rise up and win in those games when we're playing against teams that have as much talent as we do. End.

This conference is a dumpster fire, sorry, it is what it is. If we were in the CAA, we probably would have been in the dance twice already under JJ and seeded at least as good as the CUSA rep.

You do make some good points about tough league blah blah blah, but we are getting nothing out of this arrangement? If we are going to be in a 1-bid league, what is the advantage of being in one with 14 schools with a conference tournamnet across the country vs one with 10 schools and a conference tournament 6 hours away? We get to probably watch Virginia Tech beat us by 40+ points at Foreman Field. That is what we got out of the move.

You talk about how great WKU and MTSU are, well guess what? They are in the NIT. MTSU caught a bad USM team playing out of their minds and WKU caught Marshall less than 24 hours after their rock fight with us and Marshall's finesse game of footsie with USM. You inadvertently made my point for me.

You can blame JJ for not winning the tournament, but what good is that going to do? You all love him and he isn't going anywhere. Even if he did, Lil' Woody doesn't have the capability to hire a better replacement. Blaine's 4 NCAA teams would have also been in the NIT with this schedule, so yeah, JJ can be a scapegoat, but short of hiring Rick Pitino and praying he keeps us out of sanctions, we aren't going to the tournament without luck.

^ This.

The top 4 in the CUSA are better right now than anyone in the CAA. We just need to keep recruiting well enough to at least be in contention for an at-large bid.

CUSA has tons of basketball potential. We just need UTEP, Charlotte, and a few others to step up. UNT and UTSA are getting there as well, and USM gets off of probation soon.

(03-22-2018 01:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 12:44 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  CAA has some advantages. There are less schools competing for a single bid, which improve the odds and a shitton more of them are close enough to follow. WKU and MTSU are no doubt better than CoC and Northeastern, but that isn't improving our chances of dancing.

I just don't happen to be one that thinks CUSA has hurt ODU's basketball at all. One could argue that our choice of a coach might have more to do with it, which might be a better excuse. I think our chances to win CUSA on a cold shooting night in Frisco are the exact same MTSU's, WKU's, or UAB's chances to win it. This year we competed with them but we weren't better than them. That's the goal for me. I don't blame the conference, the distance, certainly don't care about VCU's successful path, or anything else contained in that large bag of losing excuses.

ODU needs to win this league. Or at least compete better in it so at large conversations come back into play. This year could have been that year had we gotten a quality win. We didn't. Losing 3 times to WKU in a season and losing forever to MTSU over a number of seasons does not mean CUSA is a crap league. I'm a long way from those on here that complain that the league is trash. I think this league is tough as a MF, which is exactly why we haven't been able to take the title. And I want ODU in a league where winning titles is not easy. That means teams around you have ambition too. At some point I hope ODU wins it and would love to see us roll at the top for a while, ala Memphis. We would all celebrate a little harder. We're clearly not even sniffing that now. But I don't buy into the "give up" and move down strategy so we can dominate schools that have no shot against us.

I'll go back to my earlier question from weeks ago, how many people on here would be complaining about a travel budget (that we're not paid to manage-mind you) if ODU was in MTSU's seat and had won 2 straight CUSA titles before this year? None of you. Instead, most of you would spend most of your time on other teams sites bragging about how they should be scheduling better, offering condescending suggestions for bringing their programs forward. We used to see it all the time but now it's a little embarrassing to go over there so instead let's stay here and kill the ODU administration on our own boards instead. At least Razor, MdMonarch, MBlue and a few others point the furor at the coach. I'm not totally there, but it makes a lot more sense than saying conference has killed our hoops when it has produced 4 straight years exactly what ODU has done in its best years--a first round NCAA win.

So just call it like it is. You hate this league because it has been too tough to win. You can continue to nail all the excuses: temperature in buildings, distance on flights, lack of rivalries, more money in Wood's budget, etc. But the real truth is we have to be tougher like WKU is doing right now after back to back wins on USC's and OSU's courts. We have to be more consistent like MTSU has been over the years. And most importantly, we have to rise up and win in those games when we're playing against teams that have as much talent as we do. End.

This conference is a dumpster fire, sorry, it is what it is. If we were in the CAA, we probably would have been in the dance twice already under JJ and seeded at least as good as the CUSA rep.

You do make some good points about tough league blah blah blah, but we are getting nothing out of this arrangement? If we are going to be in a 1-bid league, what is the advantage of being in one with 14 schools with a conference tournamnet across the country vs one with 10 schools and a conference tournament 6 hours away? We get to probably watch Virginia Tech beat us by 40+ points at Foreman Field. That is what we got out of the move.

You talk about how great WKU and MTSU are, well guess what? They are in the NIT. MTSU caught a bad USM team playing out of their minds and WKU caught Marshall less than 24 hours after their rock fight with us and Marshall's finesse game of footsie with USM. You inadvertently made my point for me.

You can blame JJ for not winning the tournament, but what good is that going to do? You all love him and he isn't going anywhere. Even if he did, Lil' Woody doesn't have the capability to hire a better replacement. Blaine's 4 NCAA teams would have also been in the NIT with this schedule, so yeah, JJ can be a scapegoat, but short of hiring Rick Pitino and praying he keeps us out of sanctions, we aren't going to the tournament without luck.

But if ODU were winning the CAA, people would complain that the CAA wasn't very good and that winning it doesn't prove anything. If ODU were winning CUSA, same thing. Sometimes you can't win for losing.

If making the tournament is all that matters, why not move to the Big South? Or MEAC? ODU would go to the tournament all the time then!

If the dream destination is the AAC all-sports, you're a lot more likely to get there from CUSA (nearly everyone in the AAC came from there) than the CAA (nobody). If it's the A-10, well, it's obviously a good conference now but they don't have a lot of margin for error. Any program that leaves (Dayton/St. Louis/UMass) would be a net loss for them, either by holding firm or subtraction by addition if they add a lesser program.

(03-22-2018 02:18 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  But if ODU were winning the CAA, people would complain that the CAA wasn't very good and that winning it doesn't prove anything. If ODU were winning CUSA, same thing. Sometimes you can't win for losing.

You're right. The complaint would be about all the dregs (of whatever league) pulling down our RPI and our seed. "If we were in the AAC, we'd be a 5. Rabble. Rabble."

(03-22-2018 08:05 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  North Texas is in the CBI finals as well.

UTSA plays for a spot on the CIT semifinals tonight.

Not sure what affect it may have for next season, but it wouldn't hurt the CUSA profile to win all three of these tournaments.

If UTSA wins the CIT, North Texas wins the CBI, and WKU wins the NIT, on top of Marshall getting their cinderella moment in the NCAAT, then I would say the conference closed the season with a performance that exceeded my wildest expectations. It wouldn't take much of the sting out of our lack of results, but it would make me feel good about the bigger picture. Wouldn't be more than a footnote or a short blurb on the ESPN marquee at the start of next season, but it would be something. How many conferences have have swept postseason tournaments in that fashion?

(03-22-2018 08:25 AM)FearTheLion Wrote:  CAA is better. Just look at the RPI rankings. LMAO.

It’s time we put this argument to bed once and for all. CUSA is clearly better than CAA - has been, is now, and will continue to be going forward. Those who have followed the Monarchs and the CAA for decades know this is true.

(03-22-2018 12:44 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:53 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  CAA has some advantages. There are less schools competing for a single bid, which improve the odds and a shitton more of them are close enough to follow. WKU and MTSU are no doubt better than CoC and Northeastern, but that isn't improving our chances of dancing.

I just don't happen to be one that thinks CUSA has hurt ODU's basketball at all. One could argue that our choice of a coach might have more to do with it, which might be a better excuse. I think our chances to win CUSA on a cold shooting night in Frisco are the exact same MTSU's, WKU's, or UAB's chances to win it. This year we competed with them but we weren't better than them. That's the goal for me. I don't blame the conference, the distance, certainly don't care about VCU's successful path, or anything else contained in that large bag of losing excuses.

ODU needs to win this league. Or at least compete better in it so at large conversations come back into play. This year could have been that year had we gotten a quality win. We didn't. Losing 3 times to WKU in a season and losing forever to MTSU over a number of seasons does not mean CUSA is a crap league. I'm a long way from those on here that complain that the league is trash. I think this league is tough as a MF, which is exactly why we haven't been able to take the title. And I want ODU in a league where winning titles is not easy. That means teams around you have ambition too. At some point I hope ODU wins it and would love to see us roll at the top for a while, ala Memphis. We would all celebrate a little harder. We're clearly not even sniffing that now. But I don't buy into the "give up" and move down strategy so we can dominate schools that have no shot against us.

I'll go back to my earlier question from weeks ago, how many people on here would be complaining about a travel budget (that we're not paid to manage-mind you) if ODU was in MTSU's seat and had won 2 straight CUSA titles before this year? None of you. Instead, most of you would spend most of your time on other teams sites bragging about how they should be scheduling better, offering condescending suggestions for bringing their programs forward. We used to see it all the time but now it's a little embarrassing to go over there so instead let's stay here and kill the ODU administration on our own boards instead. At least Razor, MdMonarch, MBlue and a few others point the furor at the coach. I'm not totally there, but it makes a lot more sense than saying conference has killed our hoops when it has produced 4 straight years exactly what ODU has done in its best years--a first round NCAA win.

So just call it like it is. You hate this league because it has been too tough to win. You can continue to nail all the excuses: temperature in buildings, distance on flights, lack of rivalries, more money in Wood's budget, etc. But the real truth is we have to be tougher like WKU is doing right now after back to back wins on USC's and OSU's courts. We have to be more consistent like MTSU has been over the years. And most importantly, we have to rise up and win in those games when we're playing against teams that have as much talent as we do. End.

+1 well said. This league is absolutely more difficult to win than the CAA. WKU’s talent was on full display last night. Knocked out a B12 bully in their front yard.

(03-22-2018 07:13 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:25 AM)FearTheLion Wrote:  CAA is better. Just look at the RPI rankings. LMAO.

It’s time we put this argument to bed once and for all. CUSA is clearly better than CAA - has been, is now, and will continue to be going forward. Those who have followed the Monarchs and the CAA for decades know this is true.

Only 2 people, 1 being an ODU fan, voted to move basketball to the CAA. You all are arguing with a strawman.

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(03-22-2018 08:49 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:13 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:25 AM)FearTheLion Wrote:  CAA is better. Just look at the RPI rankings. LMAO.

It’s time we put this argument to bed once and for all. CUSA is clearly better than CAA - has been, is now, and will continue to be going forward. Those who have followed the Monarchs and the CAA for decades know this is true.

Only 2 people, 1 being an ODU fan, voted to move basketball to the CAA. You all are arguing with a strawman.

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I think you’re misapplying the strawman concept. Push fake arguments aside - CUSA is better than CAA - no strawman needed. Let’s just stick to the straightforward facts.

(03-22-2018 03:58 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:05 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  North Texas is in the CBI finals as well.

UTSA plays for a spot on the CIT semifinals tonight.

Not sure what affect it may have for next season, but it wouldn't hurt the CUSA profile to win all three of these tournaments.

If UTSA wins the CIT, North Texas wins the CBI, and WKU wins the NIT, on top of Marshall getting their cinderella moment in the NCAAT, then I would say the conference closed the season with a performance that exceeded my wildest expectations. It wouldn't take much of the sting out of our lack of results, but it would make me feel good about the bigger picture. Wouldn't be more than a footnote or a short blurb on the ESPN marquee at the start of next season, but it would be something. How many conferences have have swept postseason tournaments in that fashion?

This is the year we shoulda played in the V8GAS 16! Then we'd win that (because we simply don't ever lose in Vegas 16 games)... and CUSA would sweep all the Not-In-Tournament, Tournaments!

(03-23-2018 01:51 AM)Petey Hodge Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 03:58 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 08:05 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  North Texas is in the CBI finals as well.

UTSA plays for a spot on the CIT semifinals tonight.

Not sure what affect it may have for next season, but it wouldn't hurt the CUSA profile to win all three of these tournaments.

If UTSA wins the CIT, North Texas wins the CBI, and WKU wins the NIT, on top of Marshall getting their cinderella moment in the NCAAT, then I would say the conference closed the season with a performance that exceeded my wildest expectations. It wouldn't take much of the sting out of our lack of results, but it would make me feel good about the bigger picture. Wouldn't be more than a footnote or a short blurb on the ESPN marquee at the start of next season, but it would be something. How many conferences have have swept postseason tournaments in that fashion?

This is the year we shoulda played in the V8GAS 16! Then we'd win that (because we simply don't ever lose in Vegas 16 games)... and CUSA would sweep all the Not-In-Tournament, Tournaments!

UNT playing best two out of 3 against San Francisco for the CBI title. Not saying they have beaten anyone great in the CBI, but they are getting good experience. I see all of their top scorers are underclassmen, so they could be tough next year.

(03-22-2018 09:10 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  WKU is playing REALLY good ball right now. The way they look right now, its hard to imagine how they didn't win CUSA.

It's like I said at work the other day. CUSA is VERY underrated this year. WKU didn't win CUSA because the top 4 teams in CUSA are every bit as good as most of the Pac 12 and most of the big 12 also. I really believe that. We don't get credit for being as good as we are because A) the bottom of CUSA is REALLY bad and B) we don't get any home games against "Quad 1" to prove ourselves and C) we have to play road games against "Quad 4" teams that are a lot better at home than they are on the road.

(03-23-2018 09:47 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 09:10 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  WKU is playing REALLY good ball right now. The way they look right now, its hard to imagine how they didn't win CUSA.

It's like I said at work the other day. CUSA is VERY underrated this year. WKU didn't win CUSA because the top 4 teams in CUSA are every bit as good as most of the Pac 12 and most of the big 12 also. I really believe that. We don't get credit for being as good as we are because A) the bottom of CUSA is REALLY bad and B) we don't get any home games against "Quad 1" to prove ourselves and C) we have to play road games against "Quad 4" teams that are a lot better at home than they are on the road.

Precisely - and good luck against Utah! Absolutely loved watching the OSU game. You’re making the conference proud.