(03-23-2018 02:55 PM)DBSUC1982 Wrote: (03-20-2018 05:11 PM)stever20 Wrote: The reason why the Big East needs more teams is what happened this year. 2 1 seeds is great, but then the other 4 teams just beat the **** out of each other and got 8-10 seeds. 8-10 seeds are pretty damn close to death.
In the 2 conferences with 10 teams- they had 11 teams finish between 8-10 and 10-8. Of the 11, 3 were NIT. 1 got a 6 seed. The other 7 were 8,8,9,10,10,10,10 seeds. Of those 7- only Kansas St advanced to the 2nd weekend due to UMBC beating Virginia. The other 6 all gone, 4 of the 6 1st game.
Compare to the AAC/Pac 12- just conference record wise. Pac 12 had 5 teams finish at 11-7 or stronger. AAC had 4 teams finishing at 12-6 or stronger. Big East/Big 12 teams finishing with 11-12 wins would be getting 4 or 5 seeds.
And yet two #9 seeds are already in the Elite 8 this year, an aberration to be sure.
considering that it's doubled the number of 9 seeds making the elite 8, yeah- I'd call that an aberration for sure. And 1 of the 2 didn't have to see a 1 seed for the first time ever.
Historically, what we're seeing on the right side of the bracket is normal.
Since 1985-
1 seeds made elite 8 92 times
4 seeds made elite 8 21 times
5 seeds made elite 8 8 times
8 seeds made elite 8 8 times
9 seeds made elite 8 4 times
12 seeds made elite 8 1 time
13/16 seeds never made elite 8
so 1 vs the field is 92-42
2 seeds made elite 8 61 times
3 seeds made elite 8 33 times
6 seeds made elite 8 14 times
7 seeds made elite 8 10 times
10 seeds made elite 8 8 times
11 seeds made elite 8 8 times
14/15 seeds never made elite 8
so 2 vs the field is 61-73. 2/3 vs the field is 94-40
top 3 seeds have made elite 8 186 times. The other 13 seeds combined- only 82 times. And that could be 190-82 after tonight.