(03-23-2018 02:55 PM)DBSUC1982 Wrote: (03-20-2018 05:11 PM)stever20 Wrote: The reason why the Big East needs more teams is what happened this year. 2 1 seeds is great, but then the other 4 teams just beat the **** out of each other and got 8-10 seeds. 8-10 seeds are pretty damn close to death.

In the 2 conferences with 10 teams- they had 11 teams finish between 8-10 and 10-8. Of the 11, 3 were NIT. 1 got a 6 seed. The other 7 were 8,8,9,10,10,10,10 seeds. Of those 7- only Kansas St advanced to the 2nd weekend due to UMBC beating Virginia. The other 6 all gone, 4 of the 6 1st game.

Compare to the AAC/Pac 12- just conference record wise. Pac 12 had 5 teams finish at 11-7 or stronger. AAC had 4 teams finishing at 12-6 or stronger. Big East/Big 12 teams finishing with 11-12 wins would be getting 4 or 5 seeds.

And yet two #9 seeds are already in the Elite 8 this year, an aberration to be sure.

considering that it's doubled the number of 9 seeds making the elite 8, yeah- I'd call that an aberration for sure. And 1 of the 2 didn't have to see a 1 seed for the first time ever.

Historically, what we're seeing on the right side of the bracket is normal.

Since 1985-

1 seeds made elite 8 92 times

4 seeds made elite 8 21 times

5 seeds made elite 8 8 times

8 seeds made elite 8 8 times

9 seeds made elite 8 4 times

12 seeds made elite 8 1 time

13/16 seeds never made elite 8

so 1 vs the field is 92-42

2 seeds made elite 8 61 times

3 seeds made elite 8 33 times

6 seeds made elite 8 14 times

7 seeds made elite 8 10 times

10 seeds made elite 8 8 times

11 seeds made elite 8 8 times

14/15 seeds never made elite 8

so 2 vs the field is 61-73. 2/3 vs the field is 94-40

top 3 seeds have made elite 8 186 times. The other 13 seeds combined- only 82 times. And that could be 190-82 after tonight.