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RE: ABc3340: BJCC stadium bill advances...as Bham business community shows support
amendment killed. final passage vote up now
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RE: ABc3340: BJCC stadium bill advances...as Bham business community shows support
14 yea 3 nay 45 abstentions

passed
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Bill passes
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(03-20-2018 04:48 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  14 yea 13 nay 45 abstentions

passed

Way too narrow of a margin. Rogers/Moore must have recruited members from outside the Jeffco delegation to try to help them vote it down. But nevertheless, it's another major hurdle crossed.

You can bet this isn't the last we'll see of Rogers & Moore though. They'll be all over the Bham City Council meetings.
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(03-20-2018 04:50 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 04:48 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  14 yea 13 nay 45 abstentions

passed

Way too narrow of a margin. Rogers/Moore must have recruited members from outside the Jeffco delegation to try to help them vote it down. But nevertheless, it's another major hurdle crossed.

You can bet this isn't the last we'll see of Rogers & Moore though. They'll be all over the Bham City Council meetings.

14-3?
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(03-20-2018 04:50 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 04:48 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  14 yea 13 nay 45 abstentions

passed

Way too narrow of a margin. Rogers/Moore must have recruited members from outside the Jeffco delegation to try to help them vote it down. But nevertheless, it's another major hurdle crossed.

You can bet this isn't the last we'll see of Rogers & Moore though. They'll be all over the Bham City Council meetings.

Sorry, I think I misheard the vote. It's reported 14-3-45 as the vote. Being a local bill only local representatives voted on it. Rogers wouldn't be able to get non-Jefferson delegation members to vote on it because then that would open those other counties up to meddling.

I do think the City Council is still a major wildcard, too
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(03-20-2018 04:50 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 04:48 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  14 yea 13 nay 45 abstentions

passed

Way too narrow of a margin. Rogers/Moore must have recruited members from outside the Jeffco delegation to try to help them vote it down. But nevertheless, it's another major hurdle crossed.

You can bet this isn't the last we'll see of Rogers & Moore though. They'll be all over the Bham City Council meetings.

Sorry, I think I misheard the vote. It's reported 14-3-45 as the vote. Being a local bill only local representatives voted on it. Rogers wouldn't be able to get non-Jefferson delegation members to vote on it because then that would open those other counties up to meddling.

I do think the City Council is still a major wildcard, too

For the most part, Scales and Tyson will be the only troublemakers there.......not sure about O'Quinn.
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So any Idea when ground breaks and Birmingham dusts its feathers.
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(03-20-2018 04:56 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 04:53 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 04:50 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 04:48 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  14 yea 13 nay 45 abstentions

passed

Way too narrow of a margin. Rogers/Moore must have recruited members from outside the Jeffco delegation to try to help them vote it down. But nevertheless, it's another major hurdle crossed.

You can bet this isn't the last we'll see of Rogers & Moore though. They'll be all over the Bham City Council meetings.

Sorry, I think I misheard the vote. It's reported 14-3-45 as the vote. Being a local bill only local representatives voted on it. Rogers wouldn't be able to get non-Jefferson delegation members to vote on it because then that would open those other counties up to meddling.

I do think the City Council is still a major wildcard, too

For the most part, Scales and Tyson will be the only troublemakers there.......not sure about O'Quinn.

I expect Williams, Roberson, and Hilliard to be solid yes votes with Tyson and Scales as solid no votes. Not sure how the others will fall, but I think Abbott will end up being a yes.
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Boom!
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Time to get busy.
The funding will come from car rentals.
This is paid mostly by outsiders.
Looking forward to visiting uptown prior to events at our new venue!
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Does the tax include Uber and Lyft? I could see these services cutting into the tax revenue stream and screwing with projected collection.
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(03-20-2018 07:14 PM)notnow Wrote:  The funding will come from car rentals.

I think most of the funding will come from leases. Or people will go to a different county to lease a car. One of the two.
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(03-20-2018 08:27 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  Does the tax include Uber and Lyft? I could see these services cutting into the tax revenue stream and screwing with projected collection.

Nope, just rentals and leases.
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(03-21-2018 08:10 AM)imjustafatkid Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 07:14 PM)notnow Wrote:  The funding will come from car rentals.

I think most of the funding will come from leases. Or people will go to a different county to lease a car. One of the two.

People aren't going to drive to another county to save $5.00
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3% on a rental car is no big deal.
I'm not sure how the 3% tax is collected on a lease, but it could turn into a competitive disadvantage for dealerships in Jefferson Co.
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(03-21-2018 08:20 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  People aren't going to drive to another county to save $5.00

I guess it depends on how the tax is levied, but I doubt this is going to equate to $5 on a leased vehicle.

I think passing this bill is great because it puts everything squarely in the lap of Birmingham City leadership to make this pass or fail, and they can't blame the rest of the state when they screw it up. That doesn't mean this tax is going to be making nearly what they're projecting it to make.

Edit: It should also be noted that where many people live in Jefferson County, myself included, driving to "another county to save $5.00" is a 5-10 minute drive. I would absolutely drive that to save even $5.
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Don't read the comments on al.com LOL
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