(03-07-2018 10:32 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 09:29 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Putin is just playing to his audience. He isn't stupid enough to actually follow through. W're not talking about Kim Jong-un.

One thing I have learned, and studying geo-politics. The Russians do not make idle threats. In the last 15 yrs. we have poke the bear, thinking it will not do something.

Think the Ukraine civil-war and him annexing Crimea was a idle threat, sending S-400 missles in Syria, and threating to shoot down NATO planes. He was willing to go to war with us back in 2016. You don’t do Nuclear drills with the public unless you are ready to do so. He was ready in 2016 if we would of push the Syrian issue. Think Turkey shooting down one of his planes and American Rebels in Syria then shooting the rescue chopper to pick up the pilot kind of leave a bad taste in his mouth. Let’s not be naive.

I don’t know the solution but Putin will win his 5th term in office, and if any body even comes close to winning he will be found died. That’s Russia. Think U.S. needs to play this Russian thing very carefully.

IMO, there's a big difference between Russia messing around in Europe and Russia hurling ICBMs at Florida. Putin knows that. We've both known that since the end of WW2.

(03-06-2018 09:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Which is it, is Trump a puppet installed by Putin or is Trump pushing too hard on them? It's all so confusing trying to understand the left.

It’s all the old tropes, scare tactics being trotted out once again.

Next, for the first time in 30 years we’ll start to hear the howling about the Homeless CRISIS!!!

And how POTUS doesn’t care about people.

It’s amazing to watch. I’ll give zerO credit for being right on one thing in 8 long, dismal years-

The 80’s are calling, they want their hand wringing and whining back...

Putin is just barking at the moon. He KNOWS that in a war with US he will lose mightily too. So what comes after that? A country going back to a 3rd world status. We would probably be there too but we've come out smelling like roses every time before. Remember that we had to aid Russia after the second world war and Putin would probably know that we wouldn't this time. China is hoping for a Russian-US war and the Russians are hoping for a Chinese-US war. What we should be doing is making China and Russia adversaries of a war magnitude. How to do that is anyone's guess. Eliminate your enemies through a war between themselves, like we wanted in the Iran-Iraq war. Unfortunately, no one won there.

(03-07-2018 04:15 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Putin is just barking at the moon. He KNOWS that in a war with US he will lose mightily too. So what comes after that? A country going back to a 3rd world status. We would probably be there too but we've come out smelling like roses every time before. Remember that we had to aid Russia after the second world war and Putin would probably know that we wouldn't this time. China is hoping for a Russian-US war and the Russians are hoping for a Chinese-US war. What we should be doing is making China and Russia adversaries of a war magnitude. How to do that is anyone's guess. Eliminate your enemies through a war between themselves, like we wanted in the Iran-Iraq war. Unfortunately, no one won there.

We should be keeping China close but Russia even closer, trying to strike deals, and really trying to work together, but its like media, and everything else that makes Trump scared to even talk to Russia. Which just makes China and Russia that much closer.

(03-07-2018 04:54 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 04:15 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Putin is just barking at the moon. He KNOWS that in a war with US he will lose mightily too. So what comes after that? A country going back to a 3rd world status. We would probably be there too but we've come out smelling like roses every time before. Remember that we had to aid Russia after the second world war and Putin would probably know that we wouldn't this time. China is hoping for a Russian-US war and the Russians are hoping for a Chinese-US war. What we should be doing is making China and Russia adversaries of a war magnitude. How to do that is anyone's guess. Eliminate your enemies through a war between themselves, like we wanted in the Iran-Iraq war. Unfortunately, no one won there.

We should be keeping China close but Russia even closer, trying to strike deals, and really trying to work together, but its like media, and everything else that makes Trump scared to even talk to Russia. Which just makes China and Russia that much closer.

Russia doesn't honor any of their agreements and their government will use any opportunity to hurt the civilized world.

There's nothing Putin can credibly offer the USA. The only thing he understands is a very strong threat.

I call Fabrics on the entire thing. Putin is FOS.

(03-07-2018 08:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I call Fabrics on the entire thing. Putin is FOS.

I think that Putin is pretty much just dressing up a old missile. Its just some stupid 'faux masculine' postering for the losers in Russia who can be easily riled up by nationalist propaganda. There's an "election" coming up in Russia.

There's no reason to broadcast your new technological military advances.