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(03-31-2018 03:53 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:46 PM)jarr Wrote:  Anybody see Dunphry will be coaching one last season at Temple and then turning it over to Aaron McKie? I thought that was kind of strange, I dont see the need for him to stick around another year, unless McKie wanted it that way.

Agree that it is strange. I'm guessing if we followed the dollars there is some reduction in Dunphy's buyout or termination clause that made it cheaper to keep him around one more year while clearly identifying and locking in his successor.

Our garbage president wanted Dunphy to stay on for the remainder of his contract. Our VP, who was previously our AD wanted McKie as HCIW.

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 against your rival is pretty bad. Most of those games he lost UC wasn’t even competitive. Next year is a must win.

(03-31-2018 05:09 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 against your rival is pretty bad. Most of those games he lost UC wasn’t even competitive. Next year is a must win.

Mick's margin of losses ordered highest to lowest:

-23
-17
-13
-10
-10
-5
-4 (2 OT)
-2

Mick's margins in the 4 wins:

20
15
10
8

In fairness, make sure you also count the games that Mick has been competitive in the series. The final score doesn't always represent the "competitiveness" of the game but he has had some close losses and some convincing wins. Again, would like to see his overall series record better than it is but the trajectory can improve starting next season.

These HCIW situations seldom work well.

(03-31-2018 08:11 PM)doss2 Wrote:  These HCIW situations seldom work well.

Right did not work for Purdue that one season.best to just cut bait and go with new guy.

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 is pretty bad. Just sayin.

(03-31-2018 09:01 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 is pretty bad. Just sayin.

Well, I certainly didn't say it was good. I was responding to hyperbole.

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.


mc

Steele has enjoyed a much higher salary cap than Mick has. Wait for the FBI investigation to come to fruition.

(03-31-2018 09:38 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:01 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 is pretty bad. Just sayin.

Well, I certainly didn't say it was good. I was responding to hyperbole.

This is quintessential Cincinnati rationalization.

A .333 winning percentage vs your biggest rival. If this isn't what you would call being "owned", can PLEASE enlighten us as to what does qualify in your opinion? .250, perhaps? Do tell.

That sorta winning percentage gets you canned elsewhere. On the flip side, it gets you a nice new job offer when. On coach resumes a .667 winning percentage vs your best rival gets you acclaim and high praise.....as it rightfully should mind you.

Anywho, I'll stop here, and take my "hyperbole" elsewhere until I see your response.


mc

(04-02-2018 06:20 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:38 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:01 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 03:17 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Step up, Mr. Steele. You, sir, are likely the next man in a long line of people to own, Mick.

Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 is pretty bad. Just sayin.

Well, I certainly didn't say it was good. I was responding to hyperbole.

This is quintessential Cincinnati rationalization.

A .333 winning percentage vs your biggest rival. If this isn't what you would call being "owned", can PLEASE enlighten us as to what does qualify in your opinion? .250, perhaps? Do tell.

That sorta winning percentage gets you canned elsewhere. On the flip side, it gets you a nice new job offer when. On coach resumes a .667 winning percentage vs your best rival gets you acclaim and high praise.....as it rightfully should mind you.

Anywho, I'll stop here, and take my "hyperbole" elsewhere until I see your response.


mc

it'd be pretty silly to can him for losing to x consistently

You should relax more. Try enjoying other things in life. I gave my points with facts. No need to repeat.

(04-02-2018 07:22 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  You should relax more. Try enjoying other things in life. I gave my points with facts. No need to repeat.

As did I. .333 winning percentage. Fact.

You, my friend, added subjectivity in stating that that's not so bad. That it's "not so bad" isn't an objective fact.

Sooooo yeah..... you response doesn't quite hold water. We're on a sports forum. We're taking the same factual information and making subjective analysis. The thing is, only one of us is rationalizing what is very CLEARLY a poor result. Out of 12 games vs out best rival Mick wins a third of the time. Meanwhile, the opposing coaches have won TWICE as much against him. That's pretty dominant. Some would say that's "owning" the competition. Not you tho. Ok, got it. It's likely you're in the minority on this.




mc

ECU evidently has their new (old)coach - https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...-116890081

(04-03-2018 01:01 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  ECU evidently has their new (old)coach - https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...-116890081

Sounds like they have a new/old AD as well, Dave Hart, Jr. He was formerly at Tennessee.

(04-02-2018 07:21 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 06:20 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:38 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:01 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 04:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Mick was 1-2 against Sean Miller and 3-6 against Chris Mack. Disappointing for sure but a stretch to say he's been "owned" by our arch rival's coaches. The only way to change this is to keep playing the game. Cats play them at the new arena next season so a good chance to start 1-0 against Mr. Steele.

4-8 is pretty bad. Just sayin.

Well, I certainly didn't say it was good. I was responding to hyperbole.

This is quintessential Cincinnati rationalization.

A .333 winning percentage vs your biggest rival. If this isn't what you would call being "owned", can PLEASE enlighten us as to what does qualify in your opinion? .250, perhaps? Do tell.

That sorta winning percentage gets you canned elsewhere. On the flip side, it gets you a nice new job offer when. On coach resumes a .667 winning percentage vs your best rival gets you acclaim and high praise.....as it rightfully should mind you.

Anywho, I'll stop here, and take my "hyperbole" elsewhere until I see your response.


mc

it'd be pretty silly to can him for losing to x consistently

jon cooper produced more than cronin and he got fired for record against Michigan

(04-02-2018 03:45 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:22 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  You should relax more. Try enjoying other things in life. I gave my points with facts. No need to repeat.

As did I. .333 winning percentage. Fact.

You, my friend, added subjectivity in stating that that's not so bad. That it's "not so bad" isn't an objective fact.

Sooooo yeah..... you response doesn't quite hold water. We're on a sports forum. We're taking the same factual information and making subjective analysis. The thing is, only one of us is rationalizing what is very CLEARLY a poor result. Out of 12 games vs out best rival Mick wins a third of the time. Meanwhile, the opposing coaches have won TWICE as much against him. That's pretty dominant. Some would say that's "owning" the competition. Not you tho. Ok, got it. It's likely you're in the minority on this.




mc

Mick would have to reel off four straight wins against X just to get to .500. Some people think this is acceptable; others don't. People will form their own opinions. I know what mine is.

(04-03-2018 01:08 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:21 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 06:20 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:38 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2018 09:01 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  4-8 is pretty bad. Just sayin.

Well, I certainly didn't say it was good. I was responding to hyperbole.

This is quintessential Cincinnati rationalization.

A .333 winning percentage vs your biggest rival. If this isn't what you would call being "owned", can PLEASE enlighten us as to what does qualify in your opinion? .250, perhaps? Do tell.

That sorta winning percentage gets you canned elsewhere. On the flip side, it gets you a nice new job offer when. On coach resumes a .667 winning percentage vs your best rival gets you acclaim and high praise.....as it rightfully should mind you.

Anywho, I'll stop here, and take my "hyperbole" elsewhere until I see your response.


mc

it'd be pretty silly to can him for losing to x consistently

jon cooper produced more than cronin and he got fired for record against Michigan

That and his lack of post season success. 3-8 in Bowl games. Lloyd Carr at Michigan was "forced" into retirement for losing 6 of his last 7 to O$U.