(03-05-2018 10:54 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:06 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  An influential gay manager, Jason Owen, wrote a letter to the CMA announcing that his artists would no longer work for the Foundation if Mike Huckabee was a member.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/0...apply.html

It is Owen's right to disassociate with an organization that normalizes Mike Huckabee, and his campaign to

That's one heck of a straw man you're starting on there... let's see where this goes.

Quote:He literally advocated locking up all people with HIV in internment camps.

I believe the medical term is quarantine, and he disputes he meant even that.

"I had simply made the point -- and I still believe this today -- that in the late '80s and early '90s, when we didn't know as much as we do now about AIDS, we were acting more out of political correctness than we were about the normal public health protocols that we would have acted,"

He was wrong, but he did not propose internment camps or forced isolation.

If you're going to throw around words like "literally" than buy a damn dictionary.

Quote:And then refused to recant it, most notably in 2008 when running for President.

Use that dictionary to look up "recant"... Can you "recant" something you never said?

Quote:And then there's his advocacy against women, pro-life (lol) but simultaneously attacks women who have children out of wedlock.

Folks on you're side of the isle are nobody to cast aspersions at attacking women. Or was attacking Palin cool because her ****** did not allow her to disagree with you.

Quote:Why would any LGBT person, or anyone who doesn't wish them harm, work with any organization that normalizes Huckabee's views?

And there is the cap on the straw man... The CMA has nothing to do with "normalizing" Hucks views. Some people can chew gum and walk at the same time. In the same way I can work with the most noxious progressive marxist in the world on things not pertaining to public policy.

Quote:I suppose that all of y'all upset with this move would be equally upset by those, like Casey Cagle, advocating punishment by the government no less, for those entities not endorsing the NRA?

I think I found your malfunction tom. Nobody here is really all that upset over this. It's funny, it's a sign the left still has not learned a damn thing since 2016, and it's pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

But when you're on the left you have to attack everything and every one no matter how unrelated they are to what you are supposedly advocating for.

Imagine how self righteous you would have to be to put yourself first when dealing with a group like that.

(03-05-2018 02:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Imagine how self righteous you would have to be to put yourself first when dealing with a group like that.

LOL. When it comes to self-righteous, we're nowhere near Mike Huckabee's league.

Either way, if you support locking up AIDS victims and pal around with groups supporting criminalizing all LGBT people, then expect some pushback. Its not acceptable to do so. Its not an 'acceptable moral perspective'.

alphabet soup people trying to lecture us about "moral perspective"..... bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Some real country music out right now.





yeah, it is a Sir-Mix-Alot hit, but Joe countrified it.







#1 song.



#1 song.

Part 2.







#1 debut hit single.



Just got his first top 10 hit this year with Outta Style.



Been around since 1999, but he finally hit big the last couple of years.

George Jones and Charlie Daniels on this song and video.





Of course, Brad Paisley is still a product of the 1990s. He had Little Jimmy dickens as part of his band as an honorary member until his death.


Thomas Rhett co-write songs with his father Rhett Akins that had number 1 hits as a songwriter for Blake Shelton and them.

(03-05-2018 03:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Part 2.







#1 debut hit single.



Just got his first top 10 hit this year with Outta Style.



Been around since 1999, but he finally hit big the last couple of years.

I am a huge fan of Aaron Watson, started seeing him back in 2011 while I was attending UTSA. Saw him when he was playing at small venues like Floore's Country Store and the last time, was at Houston Rodeo last year.

Pay respects to the GOAT

(03-05-2018 03:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Pay respects to the GOAT

yessir!!

I've seen him 3 times in concert and all have been magnificent.

(03-05-2018 03:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Pay respects to the GOAT

Only time I saw him was when he played at the Alamodome on the first leg of his last tour. Amazing show! 33 songs total.

(03-05-2018 03:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Part 2.







#1 debut hit single.



Just got his first top 10 hit this year with Outta Style.



Been around since 1999, but he finally hit big the last couple of years.

I am a huge fan of Aaron Watson, started seeing him back in 2011 while I was attending UTSA. Saw him when he was playing at small venues like Floore's Country Store and the last time, was at Houston Rodeo last year.

Well, talk about more Texans that are in the picture today that are rising.

Danielle Bradbery
Kacey Musgrave
Casey Donahew
Josh Abbott
Jon Wolfe
Kevin Fowler (I do my own top 200 songs and his #Sign hit number 1.)
Cody Johnson
Cory Morrow
Brandon Rhyder
Eli Young Band
JB and the Moonshine Band
Jason Boland
Kyle Park
Randy Rogers Band
Chase Bryant (his uncles helped formed the group Ricochet.)
Roger Creager
Turnpike Troubadours
Wade Bowen
Brandon Jenkins
Logan Mize
John Slaughter
Josh Grider
Josh Ward
Curtis Grimes
Cody Jinks
Bart Crow


Lets also give David Lee Murphy a big hand to hit the top 20 on the country charts for the first time since the 1990s. His biggest hit back then was Dust on The Bottle.

(03-05-2018 04:25 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 03:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Part 2.







#1 debut hit single.



Just got his first top 10 hit this year with Outta Style.



Been around since 1999, but he finally hit big the last couple of years.

I am a huge fan of Aaron Watson, started seeing him back in 2011 while I was attending UTSA. Saw him when he was playing at small venues like Floore's Country Store and the last time, was at Houston Rodeo last year.

Well, talk about more Texans that are in the picture today that are rising.

Danielle Bradbery
Kacey Musgrave
Casey Donahew
Josh Abbott
Jon Wolfe
Kevin Fowler (I do my own top 200 songs and his #Sign hit number 1.)
Cody Johnson
Cory Morrow
Brandon Rhyder
Eli Young Band
JB and the Moonshine Band
Jason Boland
Kyle Park
Randy Rogers Band
Chase Bryant (his uncles helped formed the group Ricochet.)
Roger Creager
Turnpike Troubadours
Wade Bowen
Brandon Jenkins
Logan Mize
John Slaughter
Josh Grider
Josh Ward
Curtis Grimes
Cody Jinks
Bart Crow


Lets also give David Lee Murphy a big hand to hit the top 20 on the country charts for the first time since the 1990s. His biggest hit back then was Dust on The Bottle.

Saw Jon Wolfe when he opened for Aaron Watson at Floore's Country Store one year. But thats a pretty nice list you got there.

(03-05-2018 10:54 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:06 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  An influential gay manager, Jason Owen, wrote a letter to the CMA announcing that his artists would no longer work for the Foundation if Mike Huckabee was a member.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/0...apply.html

It is Owen's right to disassociate with an organization that normalizes Mike Huckabee, and his campaign to

He literally advocated locking up all people with HIV in internment camps. And then refused to recant it, most notably in 2008 when running for President. He's defended groups seeking to codify laws making all Gay people criminals. And that's just the beginning of his noxious advocacy. Mike might smile (not really) when he gets involved in advocacy, but his policies are very, very evil, and represent an existential threat to the LGBT community.

And then there's his advocacy against women, pro-life (lol) but simultaneously attacks women who have children out of wedlock.

Why would any LGBT person, or anyone who doesn't wish them harm, work with any organization that normalizes Huckabee's views?


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I suppose that all of y'all upset with this move would be equally upset by those, like Casey Cagle, advocating punishment by the government no less, for those entities not endorsing the NRA?

Wow... the mental gymnastics is truly impressive here

No wonder there is no inclusion anywhere. The left, which CLAIMS to be the party of inclusion won't even accept someone as a member of a music association if they disagree with them on abortion and LGBT issues.

Better boycott Loretta Lynn, since she implied that it took a 'woman' to take her 'man'... sexist pig.

Music above all things is something that in general can easily transcend race, religion, politics etc etc... and it's one of those times where a gay producer or performer has the attention of someone who disagrees with him on other issues, but likes his music... so they have an audience... and they can perhaps reach some common ground through that audience... and instead of taking that opportunity to actually BE inclusive, the left decides to shut rather than open hands.

Felt the same way when the cast of Hamilton decided to turn their thought provoking work into a private forum with Mike Pence. They were much better than this... but still missed the forest for the trees.

That's not how you unite people, by dividing us. That's not how you celebrate differences and inclusion, by excluding people who are different.

(03-05-2018 04:59 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:54 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:06 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  An influential gay manager, Jason Owen, wrote a letter to the CMA announcing that his artists would no longer work for the Foundation if Mike Huckabee was a member.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/0...apply.html

It is Owen's right to disassociate with an organization that normalizes Mike Huckabee, and his campaign to

He literally advocated locking up all people with HIV in internment camps. And then refused to recant it, most notably in 2008 when running for President. He's defended groups seeking to codify laws making all Gay people criminals. And that's just the beginning of his noxious advocacy. Mike might smile (not really) when he gets involved in advocacy, but his policies are very, very evil, and represent an existential threat to the LGBT community.

And then there's his advocacy against women, pro-life (lol) but simultaneously attacks women who have children out of wedlock.

Why would any LGBT person, or anyone who doesn't wish them harm, work with any organization that normalizes Huckabee's views?


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I suppose that all of y'all upset with this move would be equally upset by those, like Casey Cagle, advocating punishment by the government no less, for those entities not endorsing the NRA?

Wow... the mental gymnastics is truly impressive here

No wonder there is no inclusion anywhere. The left, which CLAIMS to be the party of inclusion won't even accept someone as a member of a music association if they disagree with them on abortion and LGBT issues.

Better boycott Loretta Lynn, since she implied that it took a 'woman' to take her 'man'... sexist pig.

Music above all things is something that in general can easily transcend race, religion, politics etc etc... and it's one of those times where a gay producer or performer has the attention of someone who disagrees with him on other issues, but likes his music... so they have an audience... and they can perhaps reach some common ground through that audience... and instead of taking that opportunity to actually BE inclusive, the left decides to shut rather than open hands.

Felt the same way when the cast of Hamilton decided to turn their thought provoking work into a private forum with Mike Pence. They were much better than this... but still missed the forest for the trees.

That's not how you unite people, by dividing us. That's not how you celebrate differences and inclusion, by excluding people who are different.

WTF were they doing putting a far right social warrior on the Board in the first place? I suppose since Fred Phelps died, that was the most offensive thing they could do.

I'm sure y'all would have been 100 percent fine if say, Nancy Pelosi was named to the CMA board.

(03-05-2018 06:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  WTF were they doing putting a far right social warrior on the Board in the first place? I suppose since Fred Phelps died, that was the most offensive thing they could do.

Maybe its about music and the people he is elected to represent.... millions of whom didn't vote for him. Those that did probably don't imply some sort of connection between gender identity and musical tastes as you do.

Quote:I'm sure y'all would have been 100 percent fine if say, Nancy Pelosi was named to the CMA board.

and another straw man....
I don't know who 'y'all' is in this context but as for me, I'd be against it because of Nancy Pelosi being Nancy Pelosi.... I certainly wouldn't suggest that putting her on the board meant that the CMA was endorsing her views on guns... In fact i'd suspect that it was saying that Country music, while frequently about guns/hunting etc, isn't a political statement. People who don't like guns or drive Prius's can still like Reba. I'd even accept that putting her on the board was an attempt to get her to see 'real' Americans. I'd think that a waste of time, but I'd understand someone wanting to do that.

(03-05-2018 06:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  WTF were they doing putting a far right social warrior on the Board in the first place?

For the same reason they would put a far left social warrior on the board... Because they can help the board serve the community and it's not a political position where a persons personal beliefs matters.

Quote:I'm sure y'all would have been 100 percent fine if say, Nancy Pelosi was named to the CMA board.

Well, depends on her background with country music...

(03-05-2018 06:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 06:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  WTF were they doing putting a far right social warrior on the Board in the first place? I suppose since Fred Phelps died, that was the most offensive thing they could do.

Maybe its about music and the people he is elected to represent.... millions of whom didn't vote for him. Those that did probably don't imply some sort of connection between gender identity and musical tastes as you do.

Quote:I'm sure y'all would have been 100 percent fine if say, Nancy Pelosi was named to the CMA board.

and another straw man....
I don't know who 'y'all' is in this context but as for me, I'd be against it because of Nancy Pelosi being Nancy Pelosi.... I certainly wouldn't suggest that putting her on the board meant that the CMA was endorsing her views on guns... In fact i'd suspect that it was saying that Country music, while frequently about guns/hunting etc, isn't a political statement. People who don't like guns or drive Prius's can still like Reba. I'd even accept that putting her on the board was an attempt to get her to see 'real' Americans. I'd think that a waste of time, but I'd understand someone wanting to do that.

Nice. You simultaneously whined about liberals not respecting people who spend their entire lives attacking the very basic existential rights of people....and then imply that Nancy Pelosi's supporters aren't "real" Americans.

Basically Mike Huckabee stands for two things. Abuse of LGBT people and the promotion of a Theocracy that attacks LGBT people and women. There's no reason to put him on a board save to make a political statement.

Everywhere he goes, in everything he does, is an extreme attack on LGBT persons.

I'm sure you'd be AOK with the CMA appointing a lifelong advocate of jailing/removing VERY basic human rights from Christians to their board, right?

(03-05-2018 06:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Basically Mike Huckabee stands for two things. Abuse of LGBT people and the promotion of a Theocracy that attacks LGBT people and women. There's no reason to put him on a board save to make a political statement.

Oh this is fun, lets reduce people to evil charactures...

Basically Tom in Lazy Brook stads for two things. Abuse of Christians and the promotion of a toltarian atheist state that attacks Christians. There's no reason to put him on a bulletin board save to make a political statement.

Quote:Everywhere he goes, in everything he does, is an extreme attack on LGBT persons.

Ummmm

"In 2007, Huckabee was given the Music for Life Award by the National Association of Music Merchants for his music education advocacy"

"Huckabee plays the electric bass guitar in his classic-rock cover band, Capitol Offense"

Seems to me like he has the chops to be on the board...

Quote:I'm sure you'd be AOK with the CMA appointing a lifelong advocate of jailing/removing VERY basic human rights from Christians to their board, right?

Well we know you'd be ok with it... Hell you would be ok with them *ACTUALLY* saying it.

I would not worry about country music associations and all that. They do have some well respected musicians in country music who are gay, and some major superstar who supports the gay community.

Shane McAnnally , who had a couple of top 40 hits back in the early 2000s, who is out as a gay artist have wrote number 1 hits for many major artists like Kenny Chesney and so forth.
Chely Wright came out as gay after being abused so many times by men whoe she thought loved her, got the doors slammed in her face.
Ty Herndon and Billy Gilman came out gay, but they never got the doors slammed in their face. Ty Herndon had issues who drugs, and was arrested in Texas for that and exposing himself to the male undercover police officer. That was when he was high on the drugs.
Nobody wants to attack Billy Gilman because of his works with the MS charity that is part of the Jerry Lewis Telethon. He turned one of the kid's poems into songs and released an album on that.

Many stars have came out in support of gay rights. Dolly Parton, Garth Brooks (his sister who was one of his band members was gay), Shania Twain, Willie Nelson, John Rich, Gary Allan, Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, Kacey Musgrave, Kenny Chesney and many more. Even Brandy Clark got air play on radio and on GAC/CMT after she was out. I do not think Mike will push his agenda on the association because he would get a lot of pushback,