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I hope Lou Rowe has thick skin.
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(04-23-2019 08:27 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I hope Lou Rowe has thick skin.

How could he not??
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(04-23-2019 03:23 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  checked on this thread again. Yup, still sucks.

Bull***t. You love it.

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(04-23-2019 08:58 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 07:05 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I can agree that JMU football had some big wins and good seasons under Mickey. I am not comparing his record against Lou’s as a coach just pointing out that his first three years weren’t very good either and that people were calling for him to be fired after his third year as well. The administration kept him and he won a NC.

There are some good posts on here. The post about him getting involved in the offense is spot on. Mickey was a good defensive coach. Had he left Durden alone, he would have won more playoff games and likely another NC or two. My bone with Mickey is he could have had Houston like success if his ego would have allowed him to stay out of the offense. Had he done that my opinion would have been that he was a great coach who stuck to what he knew best and let his OC do what he was paid to do.

2004-2008 was a heck of a run for JMU football. 2014-2018 has revealed JMUs full football potential. Had Mickey been kept, we would have continued to witness a bunch of 7-4 seasons with two blow out wins against cupcakes.

LH, you can throw all the personal insults you want because we all have witnessed your keyboard bravado. You would never say the things you do on these boards if the person were standing in front of you. People have opinions that will differ from yours. Just accept that and state your opinions without attempting to demean theirs. You argue like a spoiled child anytime someone disagrees with you which makes your posts hard to read and people not respect you.

Bingo.

I actually think Rip Schrer (sp?) was a much better coach than MM. If he had stayed instead of spring-boarding to Memphis that would have been huge for JMU football. But Rip is the coach that 'fixed' JMU football and got it pointed in the right direction, not MM. No disrespect to MM, love what he did for JMU football, but it was time for a change. And yes MM, did recover from the Alex Wood regime.

I believe that had Rip stayed one more year, JMU would have won its first NC with him. Wood way under performed with Rip’s players and I am not saying this because I have a personal vendetta against him Dukester.
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(04-23-2019 08:56 PM)2Buck Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 03:23 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  checked on this thread again. Yup, still sucks.

Bull***t. You love it.

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oh thats good, and accurate
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(04-23-2019 08:01 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 12:36 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 07:05 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I can agree that JMU football had some big wins and good seasons under Mickey. I am not comparing his record against Lou’s as a coach just pointing out that his first three years weren’t very good either and that people were calling for him to be fired after his third year as well. The administration kept him and he won a NC.

There are some good posts on here. The post about him getting involved in the offense is spot on. Mickey was a good defensive coach. Had he left Durden alone, he would have won more playoff games and likely another NC or two. My bone with Mickey is he could have had Houston like success if his ego would have allowed him to stay out of the offense. Had he done that my opinion would have been that he was a great coach who stuck to what he knew best and let his OC do what he was paid to do.

2004-2008 was a heck of a run for JMU football. 2014-2018 has revealed JMUs full football potential. Had Mickey been kept, we would have continued to witness a bunch of 7-4 seasons with two blow out wins against cupcakes.

LH, you can throw all the personal insults you want because we all have witnessed your keyboard bravado. You would never say the things you do on these boards if the person were standing in front of you. People have opinions that will differ from yours. Just accept that and state your opinions without attempting to demean theirs. You argue like a spoiled child anytime someone disagrees with you which makes your posts hard to read and people not respect you.

Nobody has insulted you, least of all me, but apparently you don't like being called to account when you post outrageous nonsense. And for the record, it was you that started the "LR is better than MM" nonsense.

LR better than MM? That is just silly. Your interpretation of my post is so off base. My original post was simple and I will say it for the third time. MM went 2-9 his THIRD season. Had JMU fired him then, the NC may not have happened in 2004. Lou is in his third season. Maybe the administrations patience will pay off again.

I can’t defend Lou’s win loss record. It is bad. I do see the pieces in place for success with recruiting and how he runs his program. I am expecting a much better season this coming year. The first Freshman class lost almost every close game their first year. Last year they won more of them. I believe they will win more next year.

Cent says this thread sucks so it is time for me to peace out. Dukes crush by the way. 02-13-banana

You're doing it again.

You're leaving out by year three Mickey had already won the Atlantic 10 Title (having to use 4 QBS) , and a conference COY. Has Lou achieved anything close to that basketball?

There is no comparison between their first three years.
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(04-23-2019 06:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  I cannot believe he was retained, and there were certainly questions about it other than from this message board. The questions came up in his press conferences, his postgame radio interviews, newspapers and at least Harrisonburg and Richmond sports talk radio shows that I heard. He was not even sure he was being retained in the final postgame show. Richmond sports radio guys were surprised at the announcement from Bourne. Again, JMU Basketball is so far down on the radar that it only got about 2 seconds of airtime.

Under these circumstances, why not buy out multiple years and make a concerted effort to pay more and get a quality coach. So what if a buyout of 2 years has not been done previously.

Because that comes with the cost of $1 million un-budgeted dollars that JMU doesn't have, so until you or someone else strokes the check to cover that, it's comical to think that we can just POOF make money out of thin air. You probably live on a budget. I do. JMU is no different. And as many here will remind you, our accountants adhere to budgets. JMU exists to educate students, not have a successful midmajor basketball team. I am not diminishing the importance that Athletics plays at JMU or the collegiate level; basketball is a high priority for JMU but it isn't the highest. We're not paying out Lou Rowe's contract and hiring a new coach on the backs of student fees. Keep it real here. If the results are crap next year, we'll take whatever the buyout is and move on. The math is simple for the accountants.
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(04-23-2019 08:01 PM)JMUNation Wrote:   Dukes crush by the way. 02-13-banana

truer words have never been spoken
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(04-24-2019 09:12 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 06:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  I cannot believe he was retained, and there were certainly questions about it other than from this message board. The questions came up in his press conferences, his postgame radio interviews, newspapers and at least Harrisonburg and Richmond sports talk radio shows that I heard. He was not even sure he was being retained in the final postgame show. Richmond sports radio guys were surprised at the announcement from Bourne. Again, JMU Basketball is so far down on the radar that it only got about 2 seconds of airtime.

Under these circumstances, why not buy out multiple years and make a concerted effort to pay more and get a quality coach. So what if a buyout of 2 years has not been done previously.

Because that comes with the cost of $1 million un-budgeted dollars that JMU doesn't have, so until you or someone else strokes the check to cover that, it's comical to think that we can just POOF make money out of thin air. You probably live on a budget. I do. JMU is no different. And as many here will remind you, our accountants adhere to budgets. JMU exists to educate students, not have a successful midmajor basketball team. I am not diminishing the importance that Athletics plays at JMU or the collegiate level; basketball is a high priority for JMU but it isn't the highest. We're not paying out Lou Rowe's contract and hiring a new coach on the backs of student fees. Keep it real here. If the results are crap next year, we'll take whatever the buyout is and move on. The math is simple for the accountants.

Excellent point......when you see coaches getting fired with multiple years and significant buyouts it is not the school/institution funding that. That buyout is being covered by deep pocket donors stroking checks. So the folks that want JMU to make these type of early buyouts, please contact Charlie King and say you will fund the buyout and I am sure it would not be an issue taking swifter action.
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(04-24-2019 09:12 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 06:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  I cannot believe he was retained, and there were certainly questions about it other than from this message board. The questions came up in his press conferences, his postgame radio interviews, newspapers and at least Harrisonburg and Richmond sports talk radio shows that I heard. He was not even sure he was being retained in the final postgame show. Richmond sports radio guys were surprised at the announcement from Bourne. Again, JMU Basketball is so far down on the radar that it only got about 2 seconds of airtime.

Under these circumstances, why not buy out multiple years and make a concerted effort to pay more and get a quality coach. So what if a buyout of 2 years has not been done previously.

Because that comes with the cost of $1 million un-budgeted dollars that JMU doesn't have, so until you or someone else strokes the check to cover that, it's comical to think that we can just POOF make money out of thin air. You probably live on a budget. I do. JMU is no different. And as many here will remind you, our accountants adhere to budgets. JMU exists to educate students, not have a successful midmajor basketball team. I am not diminishing the importance that Athletics plays at JMU or the collegiate level; basketball is a high priority for JMU but it isn't the highest. We're not paying out Lou Rowe's contract and hiring a new coach on the backs of student fees. Keep it real here. If the results are crap next year, we'll take whatever the buyout is and move on. The math is simple for the accountants.

From one of the many accountants on here.

Men's Basketball and Football are businesses.

The true issue is the lack of revenue the Men's program is producing. It should be embarrasing that JMU's ticket sales generate $100,000 in ticket revenues compared to VCU brings in $3,300,000 of ticket revenues.

If the gate revenues got up to a reasonable number of say $1,500,000 a year the additional cost of a coach that could have us contending on a annual basis would be more than covered.

It's short sighted & rediculous we are losing $2,000,000 on Men's basketball which is taking funds from other sports. The way we are going to reduce the $2,000,000 is not to cut costs. Penny wise (on a head coach) is costing us (dollar short) $2,000,000 a year.

VCU Basketball Ticket Revenues $3,045,131
JMU Football Revenues $3,346,340
JMU Men's basketball revenues $118,541
JMU Women's basketball revenues $79,953

We're treating Men's Basketball like a non-revenue producing sport.

Look at VCU basketball - it shows what revenues can be earned for a quality program.

Look at JMU Football - it shows what the town of Harrisonburg will pay to support a quality program.

Look at the 1990's Harrisonburg has shown they can average over 6,000 fans a game when the school and town were half the size.

People are focusing on the costs, when they should be focusing on he bottom line.

Not paying for a quality coach is costing our atheletic program $2,000,000 a year.

Men's basketball is a revenue producing sport.
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(04-24-2019 10:39 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(04-24-2019 09:12 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 06:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  I cannot believe he was retained, and there were certainly questions about it other than from this message board. The questions came up in his press conferences, his postgame radio interviews, newspapers and at least Harrisonburg and Richmond sports talk radio shows that I heard. He was not even sure he was being retained in the final postgame show. Richmond sports radio guys were surprised at the announcement from Bourne. Again, JMU Basketball is so far down on the radar that it only got about 2 seconds of airtime.

Under these circumstances, why not buy out multiple years and make a concerted effort to pay more and get a quality coach. So what if a buyout of 2 years has not been done previously.

Because that comes with the cost of $1 million un-budgeted dollars that JMU doesn't have, so until you or someone else strokes the check to cover that, it's comical to think that we can just POOF make money out of thin air. You probably live on a budget. I do. JMU is no different. And as many here will remind you, our accountants adhere to budgets. JMU exists to educate students, not have a successful midmajor basketball team. I am not diminishing the importance that Athletics plays at JMU or the collegiate level; basketball is a high priority for JMU but it isn't the highest. We're not paying out Lou Rowe's contract and hiring a new coach on the backs of student fees. Keep it real here. If the results are crap next year, we'll take whatever the buyout is and move on. The math is simple for the accountants.

From one of the many accountants on here.

Men's Basketball and Football are businesses.

The true issue is the lack of revenue the Men's program is producing. It should be embarrasing that JMU's ticket sales generate $100,000 in ticket revenues compared to VCU brings in $3,300,000 of ticket revenues.

If the gate revenues got up to a reasonable number of say $1,500,000 a year the additional cost of a coach that could have us contending on a annual basis would be more than covered.

It's short sighted & rediculous we are losing $2,000,000 on Men's basketball which is taking funds from other sports. The way we are going to reduce the $2,000,000 is not to cut costs. Penny wise (on a head coach) is costing us (dollar short) $2,000,000 a year.

VCU Basketball Ticket Revenues $3,045,131
JMU Football Revenues $3,346,340
JMU Men's basketball revenues $118,541
JMU Women's basketball revenues $79,953

We're treating Men's Basketball like a non-revenue producing sport.

Look at VCU basketball - it shows what revenues can be earned for a quality program.

Look at JMU Football - it shows what the town of Harrisonburg will pay to support a quality program.

Look at the 1990's Harrisonburg has shown they can average over 6,000 fans a game when the school and town were half the size.

People are focusing on the costs, when they should be focusing on he bottom line.

Not paying for a quality coach is costing our atheletic program $2,000,000 a year.

Men's basketball is a revenue producing sport.

You're so right. It is embarrassing. So how do we make more revenue? We need more butts in seats. How do we do that? You know the answer, and you're a perfect case study. Die hard fan, bleeds purple, attended every home game, many road games, in touch with every beat of the program, but you're no longer in the stands are you. Why? Same reason everybody else is doing other things with their time. The moment we start winning and winning consistently and build something worth following, we could have what VCU has.
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(04-24-2019 10:39 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(04-24-2019 09:12 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 06:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  I cannot believe he was retained, and there were certainly questions about it other than from this message board. The questions came up in his press conferences, his postgame radio interviews, newspapers and at least Harrisonburg and Richmond sports talk radio shows that I heard. He was not even sure he was being retained in the final postgame show. Richmond sports radio guys were surprised at the announcement from Bourne. Again, JMU Basketball is so far down on the radar that it only got about 2 seconds of airtime.

Under these circumstances, why not buy out multiple years and make a concerted effort to pay more and get a quality coach. So what if a buyout of 2 years has not been done previously.

Because that comes with the cost of $1 million un-budgeted dollars that JMU doesn't have, so until you or someone else strokes the check to cover that, it's comical to think that we can just POOF make money out of thin air. You probably live on a budget. I do. JMU is no different. And as many here will remind you, our accountants adhere to budgets. JMU exists to educate students, not have a successful midmajor basketball team. I am not diminishing the importance that Athletics plays at JMU or the collegiate level; basketball is a high priority for JMU but it isn't the highest. We're not paying out Lou Rowe's contract and hiring a new coach on the backs of student fees. Keep it real here. If the results are crap next year, we'll take whatever the buyout is and move on. The math is simple for the accountants.

From one of the many accountants on here.

Men's Basketball and Football are businesses.

The true issue is the lack of revenue the Men's program is producing. It should be embarrasing that JMU's ticket sales generate $100,000 in ticket revenues compared to VCU brings in $3,300,000 of ticket revenues.

If the gate revenues got up to a reasonable number of say $1,500,000 a year the additional cost of a coach that could have us contending on a annual basis would be more than covered.

It's short sighted & rediculous we are losing $2,000,000 on Men's basketball which is taking funds from other sports. The way we are going to reduce the $2,000,000 is not to cut costs. Penny wise (on a head coach) is costing us (dollar short) $2,000,000 a year.

VCU Basketball Ticket Revenues $3,045,131
JMU Football Revenues $3,346,340
JMU Men's basketball revenues $118,541
JMU Women's basketball revenues $79,953

We're treating Men's Basketball like a non-revenue producing sport.

Look at VCU basketball - it shows what revenues can be earned for a quality program.

Look at JMU Football - it shows what the town of Harrisonburg will pay to support a quality program.

Look at the 1990's Harrisonburg has shown they can average over 6,000 fans a game when the school and town were half the size.

People are focusing on the costs, when they should be focusing on he bottom line.

Not paying for a quality coach is costing our atheletic program $2,000,000 a year.

Men's basketball is a revenue producing sport.

You're so right. It is embarrassing. So how do we make more revenue? We need more butts in seats. How do we do that? You know the answer, and you're a perfect case study. Die hard fan, bleeds purple, attended every home game, many road games, in touch with every beat of the program, but you're no longer in the stands are you. Why? Same reason everybody else is doing other things with their time. The moment we start winning and winning consistently and build something worth following, we could have what VCU has.

No Deez - it's not the die hard fans fault. It's the lack of success. If JMU football starting finishing regularly in the bottom half of the CAA you'd see attendance drop dramtically. In the 90's we were not averaging over 6,000 a game because we had more die hard fans - it was because we had a top CAA program. In the last 20 years we're had a 16 seed, no NITs and a ton a CAA play in games.

Re-reading your post, perhaps you're agreeing.

No guarantees on paying more will bring results, but you odds are a hell of a lot better. Paying a coach under 500k you're going to have to get lucky.
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Dukester I'm totally agreeing with you. Our ticket revenue (attendance) sucks because the product isn't selling. Paying under market value and getting Lucky hardly even buys us time (Let's say GOAT HCLR was 21-9 this year, or had a conference title and NCAA appearance under his belt, the next school is going to come calling with an offer for minimum triple our salary). It'll take a commitment to make that happen (facilities: check. COA: check. coach/program leader: TBD but the magic 8 ball isn't very positive). Next year we may get to see what hand the administration is holding.
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IMO, JMU fans are extremely loyal. While the attendance the last few years has been terrible, it took a long, long, long time for it to get to this point. Even in the Dillard years (the start of our downfall), we managed to pack the convo from time to time.
It takes a lot to keep JMU fans away from games and MBB has done as much as they can to make that happen. I don't blame fans one bit for not going any longer.
As it has been said, the product needs to improve. The new arena will help, but the new car smell will wear off incredibly fast if the product inside is the same garbage it has been.
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(04-24-2019 10:39 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(04-24-2019 09:12 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 06:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  I cannot believe he was retained, and there were certainly questions about it other than from this message board. The questions came up in his press conferences, his postgame radio interviews, newspapers and at least Harrisonburg and Richmond sports talk radio shows that I heard. He was not even sure he was being retained in the final postgame show. Richmond sports radio guys were surprised at the announcement from Bourne. Again, JMU Basketball is so far down on the radar that it only got about 2 seconds of airtime.

Under these circumstances, why not buy out multiple years and make a concerted effort to pay more and get a quality coach. So what if a buyout of 2 years has not been done previously.

Because that comes with the cost of $1 million un-budgeted dollars that JMU doesn't have, so until you or someone else strokes the check to cover that, it's comical to think that we can just POOF make money out of thin air. You probably live on a budget. I do. JMU is no different. And as many here will remind you, our accountants adhere to budgets. JMU exists to educate students, not have a successful midmajor basketball team. I am not diminishing the importance that Athletics plays at JMU or the collegiate level; basketball is a high priority for JMU but it isn't the highest. We're not paying out Lou Rowe's contract and hiring a new coach on the backs of student fees. Keep it real here. If the results are crap next year, we'll take whatever the buyout is and move on. The math is simple for the accountants.

From one of the many accountants on here.

Men's Basketball and Football are businesses.

The true issue is the lack of revenue the Men's program is producing. It should be embarrasing that JMU's ticket sales generate $100,000 in ticket revenues compared to VCU brings in $3,300,000 of ticket revenues.

If the gate revenues got up to a reasonable number of say $1,500,000 a year the additional cost of a coach that could have us contending on a annual basis would be more than covered.

It's short sighted & rediculous we are losing $2,000,000 on Men's basketball which is taking funds from other sports. The way we are going to reduce the $2,000,000 is not to cut costs. Penny wise (on a head coach) is costing us (dollar short) $2,000,000 a year.

VCU Basketball Ticket Revenues $3,045,131
JMU Football Revenues $3,346,340
JMU Men's basketball revenues $118,541
JMU Women's basketball revenues $79,953

We're treating Men's Basketball like a non-revenue producing sport.

Look at VCU basketball - it shows what revenues can be earned for a quality program.

Look at JMU Football - it shows what the town of Harrisonburg will pay to support a quality program.

Look at the 1990's Harrisonburg has shown they can average over 6,000 fans a game when the school and town were half the size.

People are focusing on the costs, when they should be focusing on he bottom line.

Not paying for a quality coach is costing our atheletic program $2,000,000 a year.

Men's basketball is a revenue producing sport.

Those men’s basketball ticket sales are beyond embarrassing. I hope we can look back in a few years and laugh when the revenue is 10 times that number.

The bad ticket sales numbers and another year of lost revenue are almost certain next season with the decision to retain.

Deez— just curious... where did your one million come from? Two years of buyouts and money for a new coach? Just wondering.

Again, I would say most think we will have to buyout one year of his contract after next season anyway so I am thinking just one year will be lost— I believe he makes 260k a year.

Not sure how the first 3 years of LR can be compared to MM’s first 3 years.
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(04-24-2019 09:07 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 08:01 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 12:36 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(04-23-2019 07:05 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I can agree that JMU football had some big wins and good seasons under Mickey. I am not comparing his record against Lou’s as a coach just pointing out that his first three years weren’t very good either and that people were calling for him to be fired after his third year as well. The administration kept him and he won a NC.

There are some good posts on here. The post about him getting involved in the offense is spot on. Mickey was a good defensive coach. Had he left Durden alone, he would have won more playoff games and likely another NC or two. My bone with Mickey is he could have had Houston like success if his ego would have allowed him to stay out of the offense. Had he done that my opinion would have been that he was a great coach who stuck to what he knew best and let his OC do what he was paid to do.

2004-2008 was a heck of a run for JMU football. 2014-2018 has revealed JMUs full football potential. Had Mickey been kept, we would have continued to witness a bunch of 7-4 seasons with two blow out wins against cupcakes.

LH, you can throw all the personal insults you want because we all have witnessed your keyboard bravado. You would never say the things you do on these boards if the person were standing in front of you. People have opinions that will differ from yours. Just accept that and state your opinions without attempting to demean theirs. You argue like a spoiled child anytime someone disagrees with you which makes your posts hard to read and people not respect you.

Nobody has insulted you, least of all me, but apparently you don't like being called to account when you post outrageous nonsense. And for the record, it was you that started the "LR is better than MM" nonsense.

LR better than MM? That is just silly. Your interpretation of my post is so off base. My original post was simple and I will say it for the third time. MM went 2-9 his THIRD season. Had JMU fired him then, the NC may not have happened in 2004. Lou is in his third season. Maybe the administrations patience will pay off again.

I can’t defend Lou’s win loss record. It is bad. I do see the pieces in place for success with recruiting and how he runs his program. I am expecting a much better season this coming year. The first Freshman class lost almost every close game their first year. Last year they won more of them. I believe they will win more next year.

Cent says this thread sucks so it is time for me to peace out. Dukes crush by the way. 02-13-banana

You're doing it again.

You're leaving out by year three Mickey had already won the Atlantic 10 Title (having to use 4 QBS) , and a conference COY. Has Lou achieved anything close to that basketball?

There is no comparison between their first three years.

You guys must have ADD because your reading comprehension sucks. I am not comparing their first three years. I simply stated Mickey went 2-9 his third year and people were calling for him to be fired because the programs lack of progress. JMU kept him and won a NC.

MM went 8-4 his first season and I believe he made the playoffs. From there I think he went 6-5, 2-9, 6-5 and 6-6. Yes, better than Lou but hardly stellar. JMU extended his contract after the 6-6 season and the rest is history. Moving on now.
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(04-24-2019 07:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  Those men’s basketball ticket sales are beyond embarrassing. I hope we can look back in a few years and laugh when the revenue is 10 times that number.

The bad ticket sales numbers and another year of lost revenue are almost certain next season with the decision to retain.

Deez— just curious... where did your one million come from? Two years of buyouts and money for a new coach? Just wondering.

Again, I would say most think we will have to buyout one year of his contract after next season anyway so I am thinking just one year will be lost— I believe he makes 260k a year.

Not sure how the first 3 years of LR can be compared to MM’s first 3 years.

Yes, and fair to say I'm rounding numbers
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(04-25-2019 07:25 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(04-24-2019 07:24 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  Those men’s basketball ticket sales are beyond embarrassing. I hope we can look back in a few years and laugh when the revenue is 10 times that number.

The bad ticket sales numbers and another year of lost revenue are almost certain next season with the decision to retain.

Deez— just curious... where did your one million come from? Two years of buyouts and money for a new coach? Just wondering.

Again, I would say most think we will have to buyout one year of his contract after next season anyway so I am thinking just one year will be lost— I believe he makes 260k a year.

Not sure how the first 3 years of LR can be compared to MM’s first 3 years.

Yes, and fair to say I'm rounding numbers

We had an out with MB of $20k should we not want his services for the final year of his contract, why would we not have done the same with LR? Granted I want him to knock it out of the park next season with 25 regular season wins, get to the final game of the CAA, and take a ride on the NIT train, so we can get him a $200k increase on a four year extension. Still would be nice to have a look at the current contract.
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That $20k buyout wasn't normal at all. It was an acknowledgement that JMU wanted him gone when they offered the extension. Shouts out Linwood Rose for royally screwing us with that whole predicament!
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I haven't seen the contract but from what I was told by someone who has, the buyout is small. If he's fired after next season I think JMU owes him his salary through the summer but is not on the hook for his 5th year. I don't know what it would've been had he been let go this year but I'm guessing no more than one year's salary. Maybe not even that.
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