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^ Well said Mac what’s boring is the drivel the same few spew on the board ..
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(03-04-2018 11:20 AM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  WKY finished 3rd because they played MTSU twice. Had we played them twice, we would have been in 3rd. This was about as boring a year of basketball as it was when we went 5-25.

Look, I hope we make a run in the CUSA tournament just as much as you do. But it ain't happening...

Really? I know you've been bummed most (If not all) of the season, but at least make your overexagerations a bit more realistic. One of the better outcomes since the 5-25 season, but just as boring? I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but I just don't see it. As much as the "anti-Jeff" posters say that the "pro-Jeff" are oblivious to the fact that he hasn't brought ODU back to a certain standard in any objectable standard, the reverse is true for whenever anything positive happens to/for the team. If at the beginning of the season, it was foretold that we would lose 3 conference game, which games would you have chosen? Some would say "only the top 2-3 teams", but then we hear we can never beat the team that are the same/better than. If some would say "anybody as long as we beat MTSU/WKU", then we'd hear that we can't get by the scourge that is our conference. Minus going undefeated in conference (which no one has), and getting out of this conference (which isn't happening soon), what would be a good outcome for you at this point in the season?
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(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:20 AM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  WKY finished 3rd because they lost to UTSA...

Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:20 AM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  WKY finished 3rd because they lost to UTSA...

Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

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(03-04-2018 02:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:20 AM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  WKY finished 3rd because they lost to UTSA...

Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

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Technically he is correct that we have a better record, but if you factor in the ranking numbers (RPI, kenpom, etc) I think they are no less than equal.
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(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:20 AM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  WKY finished 3rd because they lost to UTSA...

Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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Pretty sure we were tied in conference standing both times we played them. We might have had and do have the better overall record but they played a tougher schedule. Their RPI is much higher than ours. Can't remember what Vegas thought about those match ups so I guess it depends on how you look at it. My point though was and I think most would agree that those weren't WTF losses (with exception of the point spread in the second game). And they lost games that they clearly should have won.
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16-3, Second Place -- I'll take it all week long and twice on Sundays.
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Some people just want to complain. At least most of them stay quiet when we are winning, I guess because they are not happy. Be that as it may, it's been a lot of fun this regular season. Now let's keep the hopes up for picking up three wins next week. Although I understand we can't overlook the first game. That first game is super big. I have been impressed this year with the closeness of the team and their will to win. Can't say enough about the senior leadership Brandon Stith has shown. He may not be the most talented player out there but he plays with every ounce of energy and has a knack for being around the ball. The upper class men have learned to win and close out games. If they can make it to the NCAA tourney it will be well deserved.
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I don’t understand why people can’t see the human element of college basketball. WKU is a perfect example. They play the game of their lives on senior night, and everyone on the board thinks that’s who they are every game. The Johnson kid was like 8 for 9 from three against us this year for crying out loud. I’ve seen about 12 or 13 of their games from start to finish. That was their best performance of the year by far. Our worst performance. Then they go on the road and get waxed twice in a row. People forget these are 18-22 year olds. Ups and downs. I’m sure Stansbury just coached poorly this week.... lol. What a joke.
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(03-04-2018 06:35 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  I don’t understand why people can’t see the human element of college basketball. WKU is a perfect example. They play the game of their lives on senior night, and everyone on the board thinks that’s who they are every game. The Johnson kid was like 8 for 9 from three against us this year for crying out loud. I’ve seen about 12 or 13 of their games from start to finish. That was their best performance of the year by far. Our worst performance. Then they go on the road and get waxed twice in a row. People forget these are 18-22 year olds. Ups and downs. I’m sure Stansbury just coached poorly this week.... lol. What a joke.

Exactly. Win or lose, I like our setup for the tournament. No game will be easy. GO MONARCHS!!!!
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(03-04-2018 02:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:20 AM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  WKY finished 3rd because they lost to UTSA...

Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

Go Monarchs. Let’s win the whole damn thing!


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If we are 2nd and they are 3rd, wouldn't we expect to have at least held serve at home? Isn't that what the 2nd place team is expected to do? Where else is the 3rd place team better than the 2nd place team?

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(03-04-2018 06:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 02:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

Go Monarchs. Let’s win the whole damn thing!


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If we are 2nd and they are 3rd, wouldn't we expect to have at least held serve at home? Isn't that what the 2nd place team is expected to do? Where else is the 3rd place team better than the 2nd place team?

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Western is such an enigma to me. They win big games and then lose to lesser opponents. And Marshall sweeping Middle is perplexing - especially since we swept Marshall. I guess styles make for good fights - time to get this tournament going! LET’S GO MONARCHS!!!
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(03-04-2018 06:35 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  I don’t understand why people can’t see the human element of college basketball. WKU is a perfect example. They play the game of their lives on senior night, and everyone on the board thinks that’s who they are every game. The Johnson kid was like 8 for 9 from three against us this year for crying out loud. I’ve seen about 12 or 13 of their games from start to finish. That was their best performance of the year by far. Our worst performance. Then they go on the road and get waxed twice in a row. People forget these are 18-22 year olds. Ups and downs. I’m sure Stansbury just coached poorly this week.... lol. What a joke.
I don't think our game at WKU was representative of us in relation to them. I think our home game against them is representative. They are better than us. We are a very mature, disciplined team, and that shows in us having not lost to bad teams on tough road trips and playing well after emotional games. That has not shown to be enough against the more talented teams.

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Marshall is a good team. Very tough to guard. Shooters and playmakers on that team. They are better on defense as well. Not great, but definitely better. Our matchup with Middle is tough. They play a very conservative style and seem to be the only team in the league that’s better on defense than we are. They make u hit jump shots. Nothing at the rim We have to knock down some outside shots against them. That’s why Marshall has played them tough. They just drive and when the D collapses they kick out to shooters. WKU is very athletic and quick. Talented, good shooting b-ball team. It’s all about their O vs our D. I refuse to believe they can shoot 60 percent against us again. Look at the box scores... they shot 60 percent in both games. Right now they r the better team. But we can definitely knock them off. We just need to slow them down. I like our chances. I’d give us 40% chance to beat them. I bet if we play them in the semifinals we are a 3 point favorite.. not that it means much. Just saying.
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(03-04-2018 06:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 02:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:29 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Fixed it for you.

And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

Go Monarchs. Let’s win the whole damn thing!


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If we are 2nd and they are 3rd, wouldn't we expect to have at least held serve at home? Isn't that what the 2nd place team is expected to do? Where else is the 3rd place team better than the 2nd place team?

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I speak nothing of the actual standings. I’m only speaking of the “fire Jones” crowd perception of our team and vision of the standings. After all, they’re indisputable, correct?


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(03-04-2018 09:37 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  Marshall is a good team. Very tough to guard. Shooters and playmakers on that team. They are better on defense as well. Not great, but definitely better. Our matchup with Middle is tough. They play a very conservative style and seem to be the only team in the league that’s better on defense than we are. They make u hit jump shots. Nothing at the rim We have to knock down some outside shots against them. That’s why Marshall has played them tough. They just drive and when the D collapses they kick out to shooters. WKU is very athletic and quick. Talented, good shooting b-ball team. It’s all about their O vs our D. I refuse to believe they can shoot 60 percent against us again. Look at the box scores... they shot 60 percent in both games. Right now they r the better team. But we can definitely knock them off. We just need to slow them down. I like our chances. I’d give us 40% chance to beat them. I bet if we play them in the semifinals we are a 3 point favorite.. not that it means much. Just saying.


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(03-04-2018 09:39 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 06:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 02:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  And UAB. Also, because they had to play MT twice too though. But we did beat everyone we were supposed to in conference. No WTF let downs on that front and that's why we were in position to steal the #2 seed. No trophies for #2 though.
We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

Go Monarchs. Let’s win the whole damn thing!


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If we are 2nd and they are 3rd, wouldn't we expect to have at least held serve at home? Isn't that what the 2nd place team is expected to do? Where else is the 3rd place team better than the 2nd place team?

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I speak nothing of the actual standings. I’m only speaking of the “fire Jones” crowd perception of our team and vision of the standings. After all, they’re indisputable, correct?


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(03-04-2018 09:49 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 09:39 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 06:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 02:02 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  We lost to WKU, an inferior team according to records and standings, twice. So no we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to.

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I don’t think I remember reading a single post by a “fire Jones” person who ever insinuated they thought were were a better team than WKU or that they expected us to win those games.

Go Monarchs. Let’s win the whole damn thing!


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If we are 2nd and they are 3rd, wouldn't we expect to have at least held serve at home? Isn't that what the 2nd place team is expected to do? Where else is the 3rd place team better than the 2nd place team?

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I speak nothing of the actual standings. I’m only speaking of the “fire Jones” crowd perception of our team and vision of the standings. After all, they’re indisputable, correct?


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You've lost me.

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I’m trying to say that folks can’t have their cake and eat it too. Some folks have been saying all year that we aren’t as good as MT and WKU. The anti Jones folks are almost exclusively in this group. Therefore, us beating everyone else and losing to those two teams coincides with their speak all year. Now, because of the final “standings” they say we lost to inferior teams. That “inferior” team which they said was better than us all year. It’s that damn rhombus, circular thread thing again.

Anyway, let’s just win the whole darn thing. Play some meaningful ball for another few weeks. Then folks can start the fire the coach threads again.

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We all know that finishing 2nd place in the CUSA Tourney is not gonna git 'er done....

Just like the Canadian Hockey team experienced.
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We finished the regular season with RPI #72 and kenpom #64. We have checked that requirement of certain posters stating we need to be at least top 75

We have raised our average score to 74.5 while keeping points allowed to 63.

We push the pace. We don't wait for set plays and 05 on the shot clock every possession. We are not boring.

We have a freshman big man.

All that's left is a conference championship, and then a certain poster can finally retire. God bless.

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