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Deplorable and Unacceptable

This is a CAA schedule without ODU, George Mason, and VCU.

How low is this administration of accountants going to let it go?
03-03-2018 07:49 PM
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JMU Nation, I am still suffering from the humiliating defeat in Greenville last Fall, but everyone knows my first love is basketball. The plans for a new JMU arena are grand, yet they are not matched by the appropriate leadership. I’m not sure you noticed at the very awkward Louis Rowe Introductory Press conference 2 years ago, but the screenshot below shows what your administration thinks of the fanbase. They refuse to be held accountable even though they continue to screw up each key decision with the basketball program over the last 20 years.
I can help with some free-lance consulting for a nominal fee. I can even fill in temporarily as AD Emeritus if you decide a national search needs to be conducted for an Athletic Director. Let me know your thoughts.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Jeff is literally giving the Men's program the BIRD by going cheap and hiring a coach with no experience. See Picture above! Thanks Terry Holland!
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I can’t stand all the Bourne bashing on here because it’s mostly misguided.

But that may be the greatest screen capture in dukesdomain history.

I bet even ol Jeff himself would laugh at that one. 04-cheers03-lmfao
03-04-2018 10:16 AM
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(03-03-2018 07:49 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Deplorable and Unacceptable

This is a CAA schedule without ODU, George Mason, and VCU.

How low is this administration of accountants going to let it go?

You're not crediting them with the two D-3 wins? That gets you to 20-45 (10-23 a year ago and 10-22 this season).
03-04-2018 10:34 AM
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(03-04-2018 10:16 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  I can’t stand all the Bourne bashing on here because it’s mostly misguided.

But that may be the greatest screen capture in dukesdomain history.

I bet even ol Jeff himself would laugh at that one. 04-cheers03-lmfao

I bet he would laugh pretty hard. The "Bourne-bashing" is weird because it's not confined to a certain group. There's locals who bash. There's outsiders who bash. There's big donors who bash (or at least former big donors).

It's weird to me because almost all their complaints are about decisions made by Charlie King, not Bourne.
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(03-04-2018 10:38 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 10:16 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  I can’t stand all the Bourne bashing on here because it’s mostly misguided.

But that may be the greatest screen capture in dukesdomain history.

I bet even ol Jeff himself would laugh at that one. 04-cheers03-lmfao

I bet he would laugh pretty hard. The "Bourne-bashing" is weird because it's not confined to a certain group. There's locals who bash. There's outsiders who bash. There's big donors who bash (or at least former big donors).

It's weird to me because almost all their complaints are about decisions made by Charlie King, not Bourne.

Did CK make the deal for a home and home with NSU? While his signature might be included and he may have given his blessing, that has JB written all over it. At the very least it could have been a two for one with a little cash flowing out of our hands and into NSU's. My understanding was that the deal we had with St. Francis was a three for one and we found a home game for them that got us out of that travel. I only point this out as a reference. UVA has a similar deal with ODU, two for one with cash going to ODU. I'd say that was a fair deal for both parties. Why do we avoid being a little creative?

We are sitting here facing five home games rather than a standard six and it's not anywhere near a peer which would give some understanding to playing a less than normal home schedule. I might could give an ounce of credit if we played the away game during a 12 game season.

I don't consider this as bashing either, simply pointing out facts and raising awareness.
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(03-03-2018 07:49 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Deplorable and Unacceptable

This is a CAA schedule without ODU, George Mason, and VCU.

How low is this administration of accountants going to let it go?

Actually, two of those were on your schedule, but the main point, understood.
03-04-2018 11:21 AM
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The word deplorable will never be the same.
03-04-2018 11:45 AM
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(03-04-2018 11:19 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Did CK make the deal for a home and home with NSU? While his signature might be included and he may have given his blessing, that has JB written all over it.

I don't consider this as bashing either, simply pointing out facts and raising awareness.

I think playing in that part of 757 is good for recruiting. Easy travel is the other factor. People would probably react negatively to a guarantee game with ODU (I suspect).

If, considering those positives, you still feel that way, I would say it's fair to push that on Bourne.
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(03-03-2018 07:49 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Deplorable and Unacceptable

This is a CAA schedule without ODU, George Mason, and VCU.

How low is this administration of accountants going to let it go?

Good news. Larry Eustachy is available.
03-04-2018 07:15 PM
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(03-04-2018 12:48 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 11:19 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Did CK make the deal for a home and home with NSU? While his signature might be included and he may have given his blessing, that has JB written all over it.

I don't consider this as bashing either, simply pointing out facts and raising awareness.

I think playing in that part of 757 is good for recruiting. Easy travel is the other factor. People would probably react negatively to a guarantee game with ODU (I suspect).

If, considering those positives, you still feel that way, I would say it's fair to push that on Bourne.

Those are positives, no doubt. Of course it's my opinion, but they don't come close to matching the negatives of the deal.
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I think many of JB's critics give him more authority than he really has. When it comes to conference alignment, JB has very little power when it comes to JMU going elsewhere. He obviously has an opinion on the subject and (news flash) he isn't "CAA or bust".

As a whole, JMU athletics is a powerhouse. Look at all the programs and their successes. Very few schools can say they are so consistent across the board. Men's Basketball is the eyesore that forces many to overlook the successes. How can they get it so right with most of JMU sports, but get it so so so so wrong when it comes to Men's Basketball. Look at ALL of the other hires, and they have a few things in common. Experience AND success in the places they have been. It's not like they don't know how to hire coaches, because they absolutely do. Why they refuse to do that with Men's Basketball is beyond my comprehension.

I truly believe MBB is THE reason we are still in the CAA and not elsewhere. If MBB has had the success of the women's team or any of the teams that have left the CAA, we'd be kissing the CAA goodbye.
The good news is they can fix it. Give Rowe his last chance and if he blows it he leaves. And they HAVE to hire a coach with experience and success.
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(03-04-2018 10:38 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  
(03-04-2018 10:16 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  I can’t stand all the Bourne bashing on here because it’s mostly misguided.

But that may be the greatest screen capture in dukesdomain history.

I bet even ol Jeff himself would laugh at that one. 04-cheers03-lmfao

I bet he would laugh pretty hard. The "Bourne-bashing" is weird because it's not confined to a certain group. There's locals who bash. There's outsiders who bash. There's big donors who bash (or at least former big donors).

It's weird to me because almost all their complaints are about decisions made by Charlie King, not Bourne.

Half of the reason Bourne catches so much #### is 19 years of "Bourne didn't do it."

I know Charlie the King is an egomaniac that makes every decision on the campus and I know that Bourne can't make a decision about anything without the King approving prior.

The AD reporting to King is unusual. I hoped Alger would put an end to the AD reporting to King but Alger turned out to be a King puppet too.
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Alger is a dead fish. You think he is going to step in front of a power player sand make a difficult decision? Never going to happen.
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If you're judging HCLR, JB, the program, etc by this year's record, you're missing the rest of the story. I'd take my money to the bank that Dukeman didn't attend 3 games this season. He's a loudmouth that doesn't get what he wants and only comes around when his agenda fits the headlines of the week.
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(03-05-2018 08:11 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  If you're judging HCLR, JB, the program, etc by this year's record, you're missing the rest of the story. I'd take my money to the bank that Dukeman didn't attend 3 games this season. He's a loudmouth that doesn't get what he wants and only comes around when his agenda fits the headlines of the week.

or when responding to ODU posters
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Dukeman thrives on negativity and the attention it brings. He honestly believes he is shining a light on a problem that needs to be fixed. He believes our administration is inept yet for a time applauded the efforts of the UNCC administration. How is that? It’s all about FBS with him. He sees it as the holy grail to national exposure no matter what it cost to get there and stay there.
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(03-05-2018 09:36 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Dukeman thrives on negativity and the attention it brings. He honestly believes he is shining a light on a problem that needs to be fixed. He believes our administration is inept yet for a time applauded the efforts of the UNCC administration. How is that? It’s all about FBS with him. He sees it as the holy grail to national exposure no matter what it cost to get there and stay there.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that we were right to hold back and see how things develop, I actually think the basketball debacle could be the catalyst that pushes the P5 out of the NCAA. Time will tell, but I'm certainly not as emotional about this as I used to be.
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I would like to see the P5 leave. They currently are doing more to hurt the perception of student athlete than they are to promote it.

The non-P5 schools would do well to work with the NCAA to get back to the original mission of college athletics. Let the money grabbers do their own thing. There are fans who would welcome bringing college athletics back to what it should be and letting the P5 continue on with the prostitution of many college athletes who are apparently for sale to the highest bidder.
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