(03-05-2018 11:07 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I would like to see the P5 leave. They currently are doing more to hurt the perception of student athlete than they are to promote it.

The non-P5 schools would do well to work with the NCAA to get back to the original mission of college athletics. Let the money grabbers do their own thing. There are fans who would welcome bringing college athletics back to what it should be and letting the P5 continue on with the prostitution of many college athletes who are apparently for sale to the highest bidder.

Drafting one-and-dones directly into the G league out of high school would do wonders for college basketball.

Of course, that's assuming they'd go. You could make chump money living at the YMCA sausage factory and playing in small towns with no TV, or you could go to a P5 school, be adored, have alums slip you money, cars and houses, get girls like there's no tomorrow, and all the beer and weed you want, THEN go right to the NBA with a multi-million dollar contract.

(03-05-2018 11:07 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I would like to see the P5 leave. They currently are doing more to hurt the perception of student athlete than they are to promote it.

The non-P5 schools would do well to work with the NCAA to get back to the original mission of college athletics. Let the money grabbers do their own thing. There are fans who would welcome bringing college athletics back to what it should be and letting the P5 continue on with the prostitution of many college athletes who are apparently for sale to the highest bidder.

The NCAA is just as much a whore as the P5.

(03-07-2018 05:48 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 11:07 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I would like to see the P5 leave. They currently are doing more to hurt the perception of student athlete than they are to promote it.

The non-P5 schools would do well to work with the NCAA to get back to the original mission of college athletics. Let the money grabbers do their own thing. There are fans who would welcome bringing college athletics back to what it should be and letting the P5 continue on with the prostitution of many college athletes who are apparently for sale to the highest bidder.

The NCAA is just as much a whore as the P5.

+1, The NCAA has shown us they'll bend over for the P5. There's no reason for the P5 to leave, it's just posturing.

Interesting that Pittsburgh has fired Kevin Stallings After 2 years and a 24-41 record.

(03-10-2018 12:31 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Interesting that Pittsburgh has fired Kevin Stallings After 2 years and a 24-41 record.

Would HCLR consider hiring fellow alum Kevin Sutton formerly of Pitt as his lead assistant for the 2018-2019 season?

There are all kinds of excellent coaches floating out there right now.
It would be a similar story for Bourne to bring in a former head coach to be assistant as part of his directive for next year. He has done it twice when the Men’s program was sucking and Brady did it himself to improve the defense.
1 - Dr Ron Bradley to help Sherman Dillard
2 - Mike Deane brought in by Matt Brady to help the defense
3 - Mike Deane to help Louis Rowe in year one

(03-08-2018 07:48 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 05:48 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 11:07 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I would like to see the P5 leave. They currently are doing more to hurt the perception of student athlete than they are to promote it.

The non-P5 schools would do well to work with the NCAA to get back to the original mission of college athletics. Let the money grabbers do their own thing. There are fans who would welcome bringing college athletics back to what it should be and letting the P5 continue on with the prostitution of many college athletes who are apparently for sale to the highest bidder.

The NCAA is just as much a whore as the P5.

+1, The NCAA has shown us they'll bend over for the P5. There's no reason for the P5 to leave, it's just posturing.

The NCAA IS the P5. The NCAA isn't some standalone entity, completely divorced from the schools. It's like the UN. The schools give a governing body power to oversee everyone. The reason the NCAA "bends over" for P5 schools is because that's who their constituent base is. Everything is set up to make sure that no one is cheating more than everyone else.

The system is so thoroughly broken and in need of a complete overhaul. It was not designed to function with this much money flowing through it (and often around it).

Would you rather be 18-45 in the CAA at the moment, or 18-45 in the Atlantic !0?

I see newly added Davidson won the Atlantic 10 tourney...fantastic for them. I think JMU should have entered the Atlantic 10 because they probably would not have done worse over the last many years.

Perhaps JMU should try again with a terrific coliseum coming and the attention gained from our football team. We may have undervalued our potential.

(03-11-2018 07:09 PM)Middle-aged-Duke Wrote:  Would you rather be 18-45 in the CAA at the moment, or 18-45 in the Atlantic !0?

I see newly added Davidson won the Atlantic 10 tourney...fantastic for them. I think JMU should have entered the Atlantic 10 because they probably would not have done worse over the last many years.

Perhaps JMU should try again with a terrific coliseum coming and the attention gained from our football team. We may have undervalued our potential.

I'd rather be 18-45 in the CAA. Tougher to dig yourself out of the bottom of the A-10. Just ask Fordham, Duquesne, or even a school like Mason who is a bottom half A-10 program. Maybe it gets easier without Will Wade (VCU takes a step back) and Archie Miller at Dayton but there are just enough good programs to keep you down and even though there are multiple bids there aren't enough for you.

Good programs transcend conference affiliation- it's why Creighton, Butler, Davidson, Wichita State, etc. will always be good no matter where they are- they have a strong culture, a history for winning, and great fan support no matter who the coaches are but in Davidson and Wichita's case it sure doesn't hurt that they have two of the best in McKillop and Marshall.

BTW on the subject of conference and JMU- I know football drives the ship but the G5 conferences are actually worse for hoops. One bid leagues with more member institutions and multiple divisions (often done to make football travel more palatable in an era where TV revenue is sparse) equals a lower probability that you catch lightning in a bottle and get the auto bid. These conferences (sun Belt, CUSA, MAC) are single bid leagues and their seeds are the same or worse than the current Colonial that only has 10 members.

The AAC and MW are obviously head and shoulders above those other G5s in all sports - no more pronounces than in basketball and about to get even greater when Gonzaga and maybe BYU join the MW.

Watching VCU fall apart this season was pretty funny. They are now not competing in postseason basketball for the first time in 11 years. They supposedly got snubbed by the NIT and then chose to decline all the other tournaments that offered (CBI, CIT, etc.)

Do you all think we should turn down lower tier tournaments and save the cash?

(03-12-2018 08:49 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Watching VCU fall apart this season was pretty funny. They are now not competing in postseason basketball for the first time in 11 years. They supposedly got snubbed by the NIT and then chose to decline all the other tournaments that offered (CBI, CIT, etc.)

Do you all think we should turn down lower tier tournaments and save the cash?

Yes, anything lower than NCAA and NIT/WNIT are garbage tournaments. I would rather shut the season down that say go lose to USC-Upstate in a gymatorium.

(03-12-2018 10:47 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 08:49 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Watching VCU fall apart this season was pretty funny. They are now not competing in postseason basketball for the first time in 11 years. They supposedly got snubbed by the NIT and then chose to decline all the other tournaments that offered (CBI, CIT, etc.)

Do you all think we should turn down lower tier tournaments and save the cash?

Yes, anything lower than NCAA and NIT/WNIT are garbage tournaments. I would rather shut the season down that say go lose to USC-Upstate in a gymatorium.

This team and coach need all the practice they can get. If they can pay their way into something they should do it.
A) doubt they have any offers from tourneys
B) had summer basketball trip so budget likely tapped out for additional practice.

I agree that our program clearly needs all the practice it can get but at the same time, with cash strapped athletic departments, why bother?

Those Tournaments can help in certain situation... Most of the time its a waste... and they cost a lot... Money could be better spent....

(03-13-2018 08:49 PM)lexduke398 Wrote:  Those Tournaments can help in certain situation... Most of the time its a waste... and they cost a lot... Money could be better spent....

What would you spend that money on? Say whatever that number is for at least 1 game in the CBI/CIT, and keeping it within the men's basketball program

(03-15-2018 01:14 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 08:49 PM)lexduke398 Wrote:  Those Tournaments can help in certain situation... Most of the time its a waste... and they cost a lot... Money could be better spent....

What would you spend that money on? Say whatever that number is for at least 1 game in the CBI/CIT, and keeping it within the men's basketball program

Got to agree with you, Bawlmer, if nothing else, put the funds towards some upgrade the team may want/need with the new practice courts that are to be built with the new arena. I'm sure the coaches have a long list of things they'd like to see/have when moving into the new facility.