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According to Twitter:
Ernsberger - 15 bench press reps
Jarv - 18
Chukes- 19

Thought those guys would do much better. Nelson the OG at Notre Dame has 35

That's pretty bad.

Granted, you're not bench-pressing out on the field, but this is a poor show of strength.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think Chukes is going to get exposed in the combine. All the "experts" have been floating the rumor that he's big, but soft.

Another indication our S&C staff aren’t gettin these guys prepared. I know they were working out at Western recently under head strength coach’s watch after leaving their own trainers in Arizona.

There's a difference between explosive strength and just brute strength... As for Chukes it comes down to arm length... guys with shorter arms are going to have a much easier time bench pressing... Not sure of the measure-ables but its something that may have been a factor...

(03-01-2018 05:17 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  There's a difference between explosive strength and just brute strength... As for Chukes it comes down to arm length... guys with shorter arms are going to have a much easier time bench pressing... Not sure of the measure-ables but its something that may have been a factor...

Chukes has some of the longest arms measured. That number is not awful given his length. Donnie had a poor number. Again, Jarv is a running back who is plenty strong. He has to show burst to have a shot at getting drafted.

(03-01-2018 04:46 PM)Wmufan715 Wrote:  According to Twitter:
Ernsberger - 15 bench press reps
Jarv - 18
Chukes- 19

Thought those guys would do much better. Nelson the OG at Notre Dame has 35

Those are not good, especially Chukes

(03-01-2018 05:04 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  That's pretty bad.

Granted, you're not bench-pressing out on the field, but this is a poor show of strength.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think Chukes is going to get exposed in the combine. All the "experts" have been floating the rumor that he's big, but soft.

That’s what all the Moc Drafts say as well.

Just gonna put this out there: Steven repped 32-33 @ 225. Not that it helps, now =(

(03-02-2018 08:18 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote:  Just gonna put this out there: Steven repped 32-33 @ 225. Not that it helps, now =(

Steven was noticeably stronger than anyone else we had on the line. The way he was able to drive back interior O-lineman time and time again was a thing of beauty.

Combine coverage on NFL Network is just terrible. It's 3 minutes of showing the drills and then 40 minutes of commercials and chuckleheads talking about some nonsense...erm, excuse me..."analysis"...

They even cut away mid-drill for commercials.

Can we get some strength and conditioning guys that actually improve our physical strength as a team overall. I know there is different philosophies, but you can't have O lineman unable to do 20 reps at the combine. Franklin's number looks fine to me, but Donnie's is slight too.

You want to continue to recruit better and better, have guys getting drafted higher and higher and showing out at things like the combine.

Maybe Steven Clark should show these guys how to add strength

(03-02-2018 04:16 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  Can we get some strength and conditioning guys that actually improve our physical strength as a team overall. I know there is different philosophies, but you can't have O lineman unable to do 20 reps at the combine. Franklin's number looks fine to me, but Donnie's is slight too.

You want to continue to recruit better and better, have guys getting drafted higher and higher and showing out at things like the combine.

Maybe Steven Clark should show these guys how to add strength

Dude. Jarvion's freshman year, we played at Purdue. And, although we lost at the end after losing our #1 CB, we looked like we belonged on the field that day with a P5 team. They didn't look faster and stronger than us, like had been the case.

So last year, we hired their S&C guy.

(03-02-2018 04:20 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 04:16 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  Can we get some strength and conditioning guys that actually improve our physical strength as a team overall. I know there is different philosophies, but you can't have O lineman unable to do 20 reps at the combine. Franklin's number looks fine to me, but Donnie's is slight too.

You want to continue to recruit better and better, have guys getting drafted higher and higher and showing out at things like the combine.

Maybe Steven Clark should show these guys how to add strength

Dude. Jarvion's freshman year, we played at Purdue. And, although we lost at the end after losing our #1 CB, we looked like we belonged on the field that day with a P5 team. They didn't look faster and stronger than us, like had been the case.

So last year, we hired their S&C guy.

Dude. Hanging athletically with Purdue, who was at the time one of the worst P5 teams in all of college football isn't some sort of badge to wear. They were led by a flash in the pan ex MAC coach by the way who was terrible, just look at the one year improvement once Brohm got there. So just because Hazell hired the guy means he is good? I'm reserving judgement just like the rest of the staff.

But despite long arms, 19 isn't a good look for Chukes. It just isn't. Now that's only one aspect and isn't likely to change people's minds who like him already, but lets not act like it isn't a little surprising that number wasn't better.

Jarvion had an incredibly average day.

4.63-40yd dash
18 reps on bench
30" vertical jump
109" broad jump
6.93 sec - 3 cone drill
4.31 - 20 yard shuttle
11.81 - 60 yard shuttle

Who is prepping these guys? He needs to pull in a 4.55 or below at his pro-day and add to that vertical if he wants to have a chance to get drafted.

Haven't been this disappointed in a combine performance since Jordan White.

Barkley had 29 reps on bench as an RB

(03-02-2018 07:52 PM)broncofan1 Wrote:  Jarvion had an incredibly average day.

4.63-40yd dash
18 reps on bench
30" vertical jump
109" broad jump
6.93 sec - 3 cone drill
4.31 - 20 yard shuttle
11.81 - 60 yard shuttle

Who is prepping these guys? He needs to pull in a 4.55 or below at his pro-day and add to that vertical if he wants to have a chance to get drafted.

Haven't been this disappointed in a combine performance since Jordan White.

First of all, the bench press is nearly worthless. Jarv has stats very close to Bell from the Steelers and more reps than Todd Gurley on the bench. Truth is, he had to have a top 5 day to be anything more than a late round or preferred free agent.

Chukes performance wasn't great, but it was hardly worse than Moton last year. Teams like that he is 20, and still raw. He will get drafted, just depends if someone wants him bad enough to take him in the top 3 rounds.

Jarvion finished exactly where I thought he would. He has never been and will never be a speed back.

(03-02-2018 04:16 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  Can we get some strength and conditioning guys that actually improve our physical strength as a team overall. I know there is different philosophies, but you can't have O lineman unable to do 20 reps at the combine. Franklin's number looks fine to me, but Donnie's is slight too.

You want to continue to recruit better and better, have guys getting drafted higher and higher and showing out at things like the combine.

Maybe Steven Clark should show these guys how to add strength

Pretty sure that's in the works. He's going to try and grab a GA position as an S&C assistant. Already working with the S&C coaches in that capacity.

The NFL coaches only care about the OL's ten yard time in the 40. Notice all of them are clicking clocks at that mark. NFL OL don't run 40 yards twenty times in their careers.

Honestly the combine workouts and drills don't mean much for anyone other than maybe the skill position guys.

The interviews, meeting with coaches and admin...by far the most important part of the combine. That and the player's tape are the two things that teams take into account. Guys play much different in pads on gameday than they do running around in goofy spandex.

I mean, Tom Brady had the most laughably bad combine performance ever and look at him now.