(03-03-2018 03:38 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:44 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:33 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 01:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  What constitutes an "assault rifle"? Easy, something of which there are roughly 8 million floating around that kill roughly 100 people a year, but stopping those 100 is somehow more important than stoping the other 34,900.

Yep. This is where the lunacy of this whole thing is. Make a law that pretends to fix something that it doesn't fix to make ignorant people feel better.

Meanwhile, ignore the issues of thousands of killings every year (every weekend) because they happen in Democrat stronghold large cities where guns are already illegal..........

Kinda fits in with the lunacy of saying there is no problem with the current setup

You know, you and this guy should start your own substantive thread..

Yep and you guys should practice what you preach. Always blaming the other side as lunatics and completely ignoring the hitches in the arguments of you own side.

(03-03-2018 05:04 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 04:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:32 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 12:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Very few modern firearms use clips.

Please explain the difference between a magazine and a clip.

Edit: I know the difference but what I am getting at is the two terms have been used inter changeably for years.

...by the uninformed and inexperienced.

Hopefully this clear it up.

I understand they are two different names but they are both used to speed up the rate of fire/reloading. You are just parsing words. Deflecting from actually having to discuss the issue.

LOL, don't get mad at us because you don't know what tf you're talking about.

Magazine:


Clip:


30 caliber magazine clip in half a second:

Banana clip in an AR47 ghost gun

Blow his mind and throw in a speed loader for a 686 plus.

(03-03-2018 05:04 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 04:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:32 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 12:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Very few modern firearms use clips.

Please explain the difference between a magazine and a clip.

Edit: I know the difference but what I am getting at is the two terms have been used inter changeably for years.

...by the uninformed and inexperienced.

Hopefully this clear it up.

I understand they are two different names but they are both used to speed up the rate of fire/reloading. You are just parsing words. Deflecting from actually having to discuss the issue.

A trigger with a reduced pressure pull 'speeds up firing'. I guess this is also both a 'magazine' and 'clip' in your world?

XCentrick, here is a hint: it is hard to discuss an issue when one side shows an amazing ignorance about a subject. As for 'parsing words', sorry I dont use the term 'banana' when I want to say 'strawberry'. That is bad enough.

To claim that someone is 'parsing words' when they force me to actually use the fing correct terms (as opposed to whatever the f-ck I want the word to be) would be troubling.

Dictionaries are your friends. Actually using them keeps people from pointing out ignorant behavior. Think about it....

Large capacity clips

Hey they came up with a cure for AIDS. It is 99.996% effective. The downside is that one out of every 8,000,000 people who take the treatment will die from it, therefore I do not believe we should give it to anyone.

(03-01-2018 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:59 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:25 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  As a starting point, if it's a weapon of war it likely qualifies as an assault rifle.

Please list military engagements where an AR-15 was used.


As a counterpoint, I guess we now have to ban revolvers and pump shotguns as they are in fact used by the military.

Everyone knows AR stands for Automatic Rifle. And they are black with a heat shroud and detachable mag. They use them in video games, too. #Muhweaponsofwar

I think that is one of the problems. People believe that AR stands for Automatic Rifle. It does not. It stands for ArmaLite Rifle...the company that developed it.

(03-04-2018 10:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:59 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:25 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  As a starting point, if it's a weapon of war it likely qualifies as an assault rifle.

Please list military engagements where an AR-15 was used.


As a counterpoint, I guess we now have to ban revolvers and pump shotguns as they are in fact used by the military.

Everyone knows AR stands for Automatic Rifle. And they are black with a heat shroud and detachable mag. They use them in video games, too. #Muhweaponsofwar

I think that is one of the problems. People believe that AR stands for Automatic Rifle. It does not. It stands for ArmaLite Rifle...the company that developed it.

It's like magazine vs clip and semiautomatic vs fully automatic.....,the knowledge has been passed to them multiple times but they refuse to listen.

(03-04-2018 10:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:59 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:25 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  As a starting point, if it's a weapon of war it likely qualifies as an assault rifle.

Please list military engagements where an AR-15 was used.


As a counterpoint, I guess we now have to ban revolvers and pump shotguns as they are in fact used by the military.

Everyone knows AR stands for Automatic Rifle. And they are black with a heat shroud and detachable mag. They use them in video games, too. #Muhweaponsofwar

I think that is one of the problems. People believe that AR stands for Automatic Rifle. It does not. It stands for ArmaLite Rifle...the company that developed it.

Pretty sure his was sarcasm, but I do agree, many ignent folk think precisely that.

They outta just change that, to say LR-15 or something else entirely, then they can tell dumb people the AR-15 is no longer in production...

People that actually DO know guns will be able to figure it out pretty quick and still buy its replacement if they’d like.

(03-04-2018 10:44 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 10:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:59 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:25 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  As a starting point, if it's a weapon of war it likely qualifies as an assault rifle.

Please list military engagements where an AR-15 was used.


As a counterpoint, I guess we now have to ban revolvers and pump shotguns as they are in fact used by the military.

Everyone knows AR stands for Automatic Rifle. And they are black with a heat shroud and detachable mag. They use them in video games, too. #Muhweaponsofwar

I think that is one of the problems. People believe that AR stands for Automatic Rifle. It does not. It stands for ArmaLite Rifle...the company that developed it.

Pretty sure his was sarcasm, but I do agree, many ignent folk think precisely that.

They outta just change that, to say LR-15 or something else entirely, then they can tell dumb people the AR-15 is no longer in production...

People that actually DO know guns will be able to figure it out pretty quick and still buy its replacement if they’d like.

It was not my intent to be snarky towards Rath. I fully understood his sarcasm.

(03-03-2018 11:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 10:50 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 05:13 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 09:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I mean someone has to stop all those boar attacks on hunters in America after all, right?

Maybe it's because millions of people own things that you call assault rifles to prevent them? /sarcasm

FTR,
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...s/table-12

374 people killed in 2016 by rifles of ANY kind, including things that certainly weren't 'assault' rifles.

While tragic for those families, it's a minute issue to 'the gun problem'. Why are we focusing so much attention on something that has almost nothing (statistically) to do with the problem?

IMO, because of so many people like Tom (the other one) and Obama and Pelosi and many Democrat leaders who clearly are left of center on the issue who want to eliminate far more than what 'reasonable' people might agree upon.

They are looking for wedge issues and to appeal to the feelings of the ignorant. Never mind that what they propose - making another law - won't fix anything. They can proudly stand before a camera and proclaim that "they fixed it" when the fact of the matter is, they didn't fix anything.

They don't care if anything of substance is accomplished, just that they have the appearance of doing something.

How about allowing full release of records of gun used, source of the weapon (e.g., sales history including store or gun show location of the weapon), clip used, etc. for all fatal gun crimes. That way, we can pinpoint where the guns and clips are coming from.

We've tried the more guns + thoughts and prayers route. Its not working.

Rabbit trails/deflections

So the FBI and police and investigators don't have this information? If they do (and we know they do), then WHO is stopping them from releasing it? Nobody. It seems we usually know a whole lot about how/where these people got their weapons... often very shortly after the events. Now comes the deflection where the big bad NRA somehow 'owns' the right, yet even areas and states and administrations dominated by the left don't do anything.

Sorry, but the religious rabbit trail doesn't work on me either... and more to the point, you're merely demonstrating how 'emotional' rather than 'factual' the left is on this issue. Throw something out there, factual or not, to piss someone off and then let's argue about THAT rather than actually fix the issue.

Creb, I agree with your assessment, and TIL is playing right into it.

(03-04-2018 10:49 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 10:44 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 10:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 08:52 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 07:59 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Please list military engagements where an AR-15 was used.


As a counterpoint, I guess we now have to ban revolvers and pump shotguns as they are in fact used by the military.

Everyone knows AR stands for Automatic Rifle. And they are black with a heat shroud and detachable mag. They use them in video games, too. #Muhweaponsofwar

I think that is one of the problems. People believe that AR stands for Automatic Rifle. It does not. It stands for ArmaLite Rifle...the company that developed it.

Pretty sure his was sarcasm, but I do agree, many ignent folk think precisely that.

They outta just change that, to say LR-15 or something else entirely, then they can tell dumb people the AR-15 is no longer in production...

People that actually DO know guns will be able to figure it out pretty quick and still buy its replacement if they’d like.

It was not my intent to be snarky towards Rath. I fully understood his sarcasm.

Oh, I didn't take it as snark in the least either. Just in reading all through the thread I was sure he was being sarcastic and I was agreeing with your underlying point as well, people willfully believe what they want to believe and are too lazy to educate themselves.

AR just makes it too easy to "label".