(02-26-2018 09:52 AM)Dylan Wrote:  No one would be upset if recruiting was picking up. We all know that Tubby can coach. Currently, we are building up to be a bubble team next year, and that's progress. The fear is what happens after that.

We've all been on Tubby for coaching over the last 2 seasons. And he had the #1 're recruiting class in the league last year.
Hope he gets to the AAC Title game ... then picks up a couple of surprise recruits. Line forms behind me if he does.

(02-26-2018 03:44 PM)steves Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 09:52 AM)Dylan Wrote:  No one would be upset if recruiting was picking up. We all know that Tubby can coach. Currently, we are building up to be a bubble team next year, and that's progress. The fear is what happens after that.

We've all been on Tubby for coaching over the last 2 seasons. And he had the #1 're recruiting class in the league last year.
Hope he gets to the AAC Title game ... then picks up a couple of surprise recruits. Line forms behind me if he does.

If he beats Cinci with this team and brings in some good recruits...I am right behind you.

But I think this team will struggle against well coached teams that play good defense.

If we stay in the three groove, we will confuse all the teams that scouted us.
There's that.

I'm thinking we could pull some upset in the conference tourney.


We aren't missing the bunnies...Our threes are all net. Gone are the clanking sounds. And I haven't seen many airballs.

(02-26-2018 04:19 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  If we stay in the three groove, we will confuse all the teams that scouted us.
There's that.

I'm thinking we could pull some upset in the conference tourney.


We aren't missing the bunnies...Our threes are all net. Gone are the clanking sounds. And I haven't seen many airballs.

Yes, shooting so much better from there than we were early in the season for sure.

(02-26-2018 05:16 AM)Keeper Wrote:  looks like a 20+ win season. Pretty good for a team picked to finish 10th.

No. No he didn’t. Maybe making the NIT is not “showing us anything”. Beating one good team all year isn’t “showing us anything”. Just proves we are a little less crappy then the Tulanes and Uconn off the world

(02-26-2018 10:19 AM)cmt Wrote:  To make noise in the tournament, you have to have an NBA player or 2 on your team. We have proven that for 50 years. Without any hope of a top recruit, we will be fighting for 4th, 5th or 6th place in the AAC forever. Throw a Lawson or Lee or Hardaway or Rose or Finch on this team and you would have a shot at a run in the NCAAs. Teams like this one have a shot at the NIT, not what I dream of.

Which one of these is nothing like the others?

You do realize that WITH the Lawson's we didn't go and weren't going, anywhere...right?

(02-26-2018 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  he showed us that he can win 20 games and not even sniff the NIT

yah??

lol, the miserables are pissed I see...

Hope springs eternal in the happyclappers’ hearts —-hope that somewhere a miserable is crying.

It doesn't matter what he shows some malcontents on a message board. We don't sign his paychecks. If he convinces those guys, that's all it will take.

tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

So, pretty much like Cal.

Got it.

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

Did players have to ‘break’ before he changed the lineup? Just asking.

(02-27-2018 09:14 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

So, pretty much like Cal.

Got it.

#AWESOMESAUCE

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

I do not bye that at all. We have already seen players get better and develop in his 2 years here. The current team is vastly better today than they were at the beginning of the year.

The problem is recruiting. If you take "F" recruits and coach them up to "C" level players that is great in terms of development. However, they are still not as good as "C" recruits who naturally develop into "B" level players. Despite having a better coach who is better at developing players, you still have worse players. It simply is not reasonable for a coach to recruit a team of JUCO All Americans and expect them to compete with teams that have multiple NBA and borderline NBA players.

(02-27-2018 09:14 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

So, pretty much like Cal.

Got it.

Cal players/former players in the NBA...

Bam Adebayo
Eric Bledsoe (17ppg) NBA starter
Devin Booker (25ppg) NBA star
Willie Cauley-Stein (12.5ppg 7rpg) NBA starter
Demarcus Cousins (28ppg 13rpg) NBA Superstar
Anthony Davis (28ppg 11rpg) NBA Superstar
DeAaron Fox (11ppg) NBA starter
Andrew Harrison
Dakari Johnson
Enis Kanter (14ppg 11rpg) NBA starter
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (10ppg) NBA starter
Brandon Knight (career 15ppg) NBA starter when healthy
Skal Labissiere (8ppg)
Deandre Liggins
Trey Lyles (11ppg 5rpg)
Darius Miller
Malik Monk
Jamal Murray (16ppg) NBA starter
Nerlens Noel
Alex Poythress
Julius Randle (15ppg 8rpg)
Karl Anthony-Towns (20ppg 12rpg) NBA star
Tyler Ulis
John Wall (19ppg 9apg) NBA Superstar
James Young
Tyreke Evans (career 16ppg)
Derek Rose, fomer NBA Superstar and rookie of the year
Dajuan Wagner
Chris Douglas-Robers
Antonio Anderson
Joey Dorsey
Rodney Carney
Earl Barron
Marcus Camby, former NBA Superstar
Lou Roe



Tubby players/former players in the NBA...

Rondo
Any more?
Will we count Dedric Lawson when he’s in the NBA?



Yeah, Cal and Tubby are very similar

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

Go away.

(02-27-2018 11:12 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 09:14 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

So, pretty much like Cal.

Got it.

Cal players/former players in the NBA...

Bam Adebayo
Eric Bledsoe (17ppg) NBA starter
Devin Booker (25ppg) NBA star
Willie Cauley-Stein (12.5ppg 7rpg) NBA starter
Demarcus Cousins (28ppg 13rpg) NBA Superstar
Anthony Davis (28ppg 11rpg) NBA Superstar
DeAaron Fox (11ppg) NBA starter
Andrew Harrison
Dakari Johnson
Enis Kanter (14ppg 11rpg) NBA starter
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (10ppg) NBA starter
Brandon Knight (career 15ppg) NBA starter when healthy
Skal Labissiere (8ppg)
Deandre Liggins
Trey Lyles (11ppg 5rpg)
Darius Miller
Malik Monk
Jamal Murray (16ppg) NBA starter
Nerlens Noel
Alex Poythress
Julius Randle (15ppg 8rpg)
Karl Anthony-Towns (20ppg 12rpg) NBA star
Tyler Ulis
John Wall (19ppg 9apg) NBA Superstar
James Young
Tyreke Evans (career 16ppg)
Derek Rose, fomer NBA Superstar and rookie of the year
Dajuan Wagner
Chris Douglas-Robers
Antonio Anderson
Joey Dorsey
Rodney Carney
Earl Barron
Marcus Camby, former NBA Superstar
Lou Roe



Tubby players/former players in the NBA...

Rondo
Any more?
Will we count Dedric Lawson when he’s in the NBA?



Yeah, Cal and Tubby are very similar

Nazr Mohammad
Michael Bradley
Jamaal Magloire
Tayshaun Prince
Keith Bogans
Chuck Hayes
Kelenna Azubuike
Jodie Meeks

But your point still stands. No one compares to Cal’s NBA presence

(02-26-2018 05:16 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 10:19 AM)cmt Wrote:  To make noise in the tournament, you have to have an NBA player or 2 on your team. We have proven that for 50 years. Without any hope of a top recruit, we will be fighting for 4th, 5th or 6th place in the AAC forever. Throw a Lawson or Lee or Hardaway or Rose or Finch on this team and you would have a shot at a run in the NCAAs. Teams like this one have a shot at the NIT, not what I dream of.

Which one of these is nothing like the others?

You do realize that WITH the Lawson's we didn't go and weren't going, anywhere...right?

D***, they WERE FRESHMEN. Not one and dones either. Did Tubby coach them up? No because he hasn't had top kids from AAU environment maybe never.

(02-27-2018 11:41 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 11:12 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 09:14 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

So, pretty much like Cal.

Got it.

Cal players/former players in the NBA...

Bam Adebayo
Eric Bledsoe (17ppg) NBA starter
Devin Booker (25ppg) NBA star
Willie Cauley-Stein (12.5ppg 7rpg) NBA starter
Demarcus Cousins (28ppg 13rpg) NBA Superstar
Anthony Davis (28ppg 11rpg) NBA Superstar
DeAaron Fox (11ppg) NBA starter
Andrew Harrison
Dakari Johnson
Enis Kanter (14ppg 11rpg) NBA starter
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (10ppg) NBA starter
Brandon Knight (career 15ppg) NBA starter when healthy
Skal Labissiere (8ppg)
Deandre Liggins
Trey Lyles (11ppg 5rpg)
Darius Miller
Malik Monk
Jamal Murray (16ppg) NBA starter
Nerlens Noel
Alex Poythress
Julius Randle (15ppg 8rpg)
Karl Anthony-Towns (20ppg 12rpg) NBA star
Tyler Ulis
John Wall (19ppg 9apg) NBA Superstar
James Young
Tyreke Evans (career 16ppg)
Derek Rose, fomer NBA Superstar and rookie of the year
Dajuan Wagner
Chris Douglas-Robers
Antonio Anderson
Joey Dorsey
Rodney Carney
Earl Barron
Marcus Camby, former NBA Superstar
Lou Roe



Tubby players/former players in the NBA...

Rondo
Any more?
Will we count Dedric Lawson when he’s in the NBA?



Yeah, Cal and Tubby are very similar

Nazr Mohammad
Michael Bradley
Jamaal Magloire
Tayshaun Prince
Keith Bogans
Chuck Hayes
Kelenna Azubuike
Jodie Meeks

But your point still stands. No one compares to Cal’s NBA presence

I imagine the only coach that comes close to comparing is Coach K...

(02-27-2018 11:12 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 09:14 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)BJD Wrote:  tubby can't coach. It's not about the recruiting, dismal as it is, but tubby can't win with the number 1 recruiting class in the country. I saw that at UK.

tubby will always do just enough to keep the posse at bay. He is a world class grifter.

Player do not get better under tubby. They get older and more mature as they would anywhere and it seems they get better. But they gain no skills, no fundamental improvement. If they don't have a skill when they get to tubby they won't leave with it.

So, pretty much like Cal.

Got it.

Cal players/former players in the NBA...

Bam Adebayo
Eric Bledsoe (17ppg) NBA starter
Devin Booker (25ppg) NBA star
Willie Cauley-Stein (12.5ppg 7rpg) NBA starter
Demarcus Cousins (28ppg 13rpg) NBA Superstar
Anthony Davis (28ppg 11rpg) NBA Superstar
DeAaron Fox (11ppg) NBA starter
Andrew Harrison
Dakari Johnson
Enis Kanter (14ppg 11rpg) NBA starter
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (10ppg) NBA starter
Brandon Knight (career 15ppg) NBA starter when healthy
Skal Labissiere (8ppg)
Deandre Liggins
Trey Lyles (11ppg 5rpg)
Darius Miller
Malik Monk
Jamal Murray (16ppg) NBA starter
Nerlens Noel
Alex Poythress
Julius Randle (15ppg 8rpg)
Karl Anthony-Towns (20ppg 12rpg) NBA star
Tyler Ulis
John Wall (19ppg 9apg) NBA Superstar
James Young
Tyreke Evans (career 16ppg)
Derek Rose, fomer NBA Superstar and rookie of the year
Dajuan Wagner
Chris Douglas-Robers
Antonio Anderson
Joey Dorsey
Rodney Carney
Earl Barron
Marcus Camby, former NBA Superstar
Lou Roe



Tubby players/former players in the NBA...

Rondo
Any more?
Will we count Dedric Lawson when he’s in the NBA?



Yeah, Cal and Tubby are very similar

The conversation was about player development not recruiting...

WTH hell does this list have to do with player development.

And it is strange that you include Cal guys no longer in the league but you don't include Tubby guys no longer in the league. And you include Enes Kanter who never played a game for Cal...Might as well include Amare Stodumire as well...LOL

If you are going to post things at least do it honestly...