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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
Exactly what Rhoades said last night after the game. Guess he joins us as losers
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 12:43 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 11:43 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 10:03 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Staunch VCU fan, a guy who travels to many of their games, said just yesterday that VCU plays everyone tough for about 38 minutes, has late-game leads then "Rhoades gets out-coached down the stretch every time. His coaching has been a big disappointment."

The out-coached coach out-coached our coach?

Classy, real classy.

You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 01:21 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Exactly what Rhoades said last night after the game. Guess he joins us as losers

Wait. I am so confused. Is it the players' fault or the coach's? I think I might have figured it out. Tell me if I am right.

If it is VCU. It is the coach's fault

If it is ODU. It is the players' fault

Did it get it right?
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(03-01-2018 01:48 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:21 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Exactly what Rhoades said last night after the game. Guess he joins us as losers

Wait. I am so confused. Is it the players' fault or the coach's? I think I might have figured it out. Tell me if I am right.

If it is VCU. It is the coach's fault

If it is ODU. It is the players' fault

Did it get it right?

The answer is this:
Choose between a great recruiter or a great coach. Can't have both. You can only choose one. Which one would it be?
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 01:53 PM)The Flagship Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:48 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:21 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Exactly what Rhoades said last night after the game. Guess he joins us as losers

Wait. I am so confused. Is it the players' fault or the coach's? I think I might have figured it out. Tell me if I am right.

If it is VCU. It is the coach's fault

If it is ODU. It is the players' fault

Did it get it right?

The answer is this:
Choose between a great recruiter or a great coach. Can't have both. You can only choose one. Which one would it be?

Wait. I can have both. My choice was Keatts.
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 01:58 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:53 PM)The Flagship Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:48 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:21 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Exactly what Rhoades said last night after the game. Guess he joins us as losers

Wait. I am so confused. Is it the players' fault or the coach's? I think I might have figured it out. Tell me if I am right.

If it is VCU. It is the coach's fault

If it is ODU. It is the players' fault

Did it get it right?

The answer is this:
Choose between a great recruiter or a great coach. Can't have both. You can only choose one. Which one would it be?

Wait. I can have both. My choice was Keatts.

No way stated the coach had to be clean!
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
We all know he was your choice my friend! Only trouble is, from all I read, there was a committee established to pick the last coach, it wasn't just one person and they picked Jeff Jones.
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 02:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:58 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:53 PM)The Flagship Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:48 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:21 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Exactly what Rhoades said last night after the game. Guess he joins us as losers

Wait. I am so confused. Is it the players' fault or the coach's? I think I might have figured it out. Tell me if I am right.

If it is VCU. It is the coach's fault

If it is ODU. It is the players' fault

Did it get it right?

The answer is this:
Choose between a great recruiter or a great coach. Can't have both. You can only choose one. Which one would it be?

Wait. I can have both. My choice was Keatts.

No way stated the coach had to be clean!

Clean? Check. Ok, still going with Keatts.

If excuse making were an Olympic Sport, you would have all the gold medals. Seriously though, you go to astounding lengths. You are now defaming a, by all accounts, good man who has in no way been implicated in any wrongdoing in order to somehow find a glimmer of a reason to defend the hiring of JJ.

...And speaking of dirty, the admin was all in on Andy Enfield, who is in fact dirty, and there is actual evidence for that rather than your conjecture.
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(03-01-2018 02:10 PM)mac Wrote:  We all know he was your choice my friend! Only trouble is, from all I read, there was a committee established to pick the last coach, it wasn't just one person and they picked Jeff Jones.

They were dumb. History has borne that out.
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 02:13 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:58 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:53 PM)The Flagship Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:48 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Wait. I am so confused. Is it the players' fault or the coach's? I think I might have figured it out. Tell me if I am right.

If it is VCU. It is the coach's fault

If it is ODU. It is the players' fault

Did it get it right?

The answer is this:
Choose between a great recruiter or a great coach. Can't have both. You can only choose one. Which one would it be?

Wait. I can have both. My choice was Keatts.

No way stated the coach had to be clean!

Clean? Check. Ok, still going with Keatts.

If excuse making were an Olympic Sport, you would have all the gold medals. Seriously though, you go to astounding lengths. You are now defaming a, by all accounts, good man who has in no way been implicated in any wrongdoing in order to somehow find a glimmer of a reason to defend the hiring of JJ.

...And speaking of dirty, the admin was all in on Andy Enfield, who is in fact dirty, and there is actual evidence for that rather than your conjecture.

There are no excuses. Keats was an assistant coach that was on a team that had wins (and a title vacated). If you believe he was an innocent bystander and knew nothing of the violations, then sobeit it, but you probably aren't being honest with yourself.

And this has nothing to do with Jones. We were not going to hire Keats...ever. Not everything people post on this board is "in defense of Jones."


https://www.cardchronicle.com/2015/10/22...d-to-speak

Keatts was the lead recruiter for the basketball team from 2011 - 2014. In 2014 he was named Associate Head Coach, with Pitino specifically highlighting his recruiting ability.

He brought new energy to the recruiting landscape, specifically with his connection to Hargrave Military Academy that seemingly resulted in Montrezl Harrell, Luke Hancock and Terry Rozier all committing to be Cardinals. All those athletes are now Louisville legends, but critical at this juncture is the fact that two of the three (Harrell, Rozier) were explicitly named by Katina Powell as being involved in transgressions over the four year period.

Maybe even more compelling is Keatts' relationship with former recruit JaQuan Lyle.

Lyle was the first current or former Louisville recruit or player to confirm "the gist" of Powell's allegations.

Keatts was Lyle's main recruiter and when he committed to Louisville, he referenced his relationship with Keatts as one of the driving forces in his decision. A 2013 story by Steve Jones of the Courier-Journal spoke with Lyle before his commitment and he referred to Keatts as "the best person I've ever played in ping pong". He goes on to say he's played Keatts over 10 times in the Billy Minardi dorms.

There has to be questions directed at the current head basketball coach of a public University who had the defining relationship with the one recruit who has validated details of Powell's story to the NCAA.
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RE: 22-6.........or why numbers are deceiving
(03-01-2018 02:14 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:10 PM)mac Wrote:  We all know he was your choice my friend! Only trouble is, from all I read, there was a committee established to pick the last coach, it wasn't just one person and they picked Jeff Jones.

They were dumb. History has borne that out.

The hire turned a 5 win team into a consistent winner. Whether that was the right choice or not can be debated. They turned the program back into a winning program at a very low price (coaches salary). It certainly wasn't a dumb choice.

(yes, this is in defense of Jones)
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(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 12:43 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 11:43 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 10:03 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Staunch VCU fan, a guy who travels to many of their games, said just yesterday that VCU plays everyone tough for about 38 minutes, has late-game leads then "Rhoades gets out-coached down the stretch every time. His coaching has been a big disappointment."

The out-coached coach out-coached our coach?

Classy, real classy.

You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.
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(03-01-2018 12:51 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 01:30 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  By the way, all are welcome to catch up with Drunkard and I at Cogan's.

May try and come join you guys if the wifey is into it. What can I look for? (outfit...unique features? Lazy eye? Peg leg?)


PM sent. I have both a peg leg and a lazy eye.
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Yes, you sure do Coach but we are all beautiful in our own way!
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(03-01-2018 02:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 12:43 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 11:43 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 10:03 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Staunch VCU fan, a guy who travels to many of their games, said just yesterday that VCU plays everyone tough for about 38 minutes, has late-game leads then "Rhoades gets out-coached down the stretch every time. His coaching has been a big disappointment."

The out-coached coach out-coached our coach?

Classy, real classy.

You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.

That's a nice analogy, but way off base from my intent. Just tired of almost everything someone posts on here being related to Jones. You can go back to educating all of us on Internet etiquette.
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(03-01-2018 02:49 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 12:43 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 11:43 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  The out-coached coach out-coached our coach?

Classy, real classy.

You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.

That's a nice analogy, but way off base from my intent. Just tired of almost everything someone posts on here being related to Jones. You can go back to educating all of us on Internet etiquette.

Where in any of my posts did I? Are you off your rocker? In fact, you were the one educating us on internet etiquette, by saying my post was not classy? Additionally, if you don't like people complaining about Jones, you should stay away from these boards.
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(03-01-2018 02:49 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 12:43 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 11:43 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  The out-coached coach out-coached our coach?

Classy, real classy.

You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.

That's a nice analogy, but way off base from my intent. Just tired of almost everything someone posts on here being related to Jones. You can go back to educating all of us on Internet etiquette.

You're tired of all the posts on the odu athletics board on the topic of odu athletics coach jeffjones, yea, you've definitely found yourself on the wrong website
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(03-01-2018 04:01 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:49 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 12:43 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Classy, real classy.

You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.

That's a nice analogy, but way off base from my intent. Just tired of almost everything someone posts on here being related to Jones. You can go back to educating all of us on Internet etiquette.

You're tired of all the posts on the odu athletics board on the topic of odu athletics coach jeffjones, yea, you've definitely found yourself on the wrong website

I should have been more clear. My fault. I'm tired of all of the conversation about whether or not Jones should go, should have been hired, who they would have hired who would have been better. It's all been said over and over. It seems to permeate every basketball thread. And you're also right: The more I'm on here, the more I think I'm in the wrong place.
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(03-02-2018 10:40 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
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(03-01-2018 02:49 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.

That's a nice analogy, but way off base from my intent. Just tired of almost everything someone posts on here being related to Jones. You can go back to educating all of us on Internet etiquette.

You're tired of all the posts on the odu athletics board on the topic of odu athletics coach jeffjones, yea, you've definitely found yourself on the wrong website

I should have been more clear. My fault. I'm tired of all of the conversation about whether or not Jones should go, should have been hired, who they would have hired who would have been better. It's all been said over and over. It seems to permeate every basketball thread. And you're also right: The more I'm on here, the more I think I'm in the wrong place.

You're not in the wrong place. Some posters just aren't going to jive with eachother. They're coming from completely different viewpoints and may be on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to communication styles. Once you identify your opposites, engage or ignore. But don't disengage from the board. We need as many viewpoints as possible to make this board work. Otherwise, it'll just be a place where everyone agrees all the time. And that would suck.
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(03-02-2018 10:40 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 04:01 PM)jasdf Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:49 PM)jumpshooter Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 02:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(03-01-2018 01:47 PM)jasdf Wrote:  You say that like we are conversing at a black tie charity event and coach jones is within earshot. If it is "class" that youseek, I am not confident that the Internet is the place for you

Haha this was said as a complete joke. And even if it wasn’t, are you really offended? Check in to your safe space.

That's a nice analogy, but way off base from my intent. Just tired of almost everything someone posts on here being related to Jones. You can go back to educating all of us on Internet etiquette.

You're tired of all the posts on the odu athletics board on the topic of odu athletics coach jeffjones, yea, you've definitely found yourself on the wrong website

I should have been more clear. My fault. I'm tired of all of the conversation about whether or not Jones should go, should have been hired, who they would have hired who would have been better. It's all been said over and over. It seems to permeate every basketball thread. And you're also right: The more I'm on here, the more I think I'm in the wrong place.

Agreed, especially after every loss.

But given the title of this thread, it was to be expected.
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