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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 01:05 AM)Shooters Wrote: (02-22-2018 11:57 PM)MonsterTigerBlue Wrote: GP is playin the cards he is dealt ... somebody has to play the heel, errrrrin and ummin his way to becoming the Vodka Empire King
I dont hate the guy , just dislike all the discord he trys to toss out, seems like a tiny stummbling block and boy look at the big brain
on that cat, gettin ratings from the haters,,, smart to stir the pot.. only way he gets ratings but ya gotta do what ya gotta do..
I listen from time to time.. even though im not a fan !!! doing something right !!
Less than 1% of the total population of our metro area listen to sports radio at all and way less than that specifically to Parrish. So who cares except you diehard listeners?
And where did the less than 1% number come from? And Way less than that for GP? Yes way less listen to the other spots as compared to GP because GP comes on at a more opportune time for radio listeners at 4 to 6 PM. Your market share numbers are way off. With that said I am one of those who do not listen to GP. Can't stand his constant "look at me" references how right he believes he is in his opinions. Should change the name from the GP Show to "ME, ME and Some Sports Talk."
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:36 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: It does hurt. Another year of underachieving. Maybe Tubby can win out and fool another school to come after him.
I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
I will ask you again: If you knew Tubby was coming back next year, would you continue to want us to lose games this year?
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 12:27 AM)450bench Wrote: (02-22-2018 11:42 PM)cmt Wrote: Great win and really nice to see Parrish have to interview Tubby. What a jerk, he said the media maligns the Tigers. Have some guts and say," I malign you and the Tigers every single day on the radio."
Yep. Can't stand the sight of the guy or the sound of his voice.
I'd call him a weasel, but weasels are sleek, fast and clever.
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micman
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 10:03 AM)SayWhat? Wrote: (02-23-2018 01:05 AM)Shooters Wrote: (02-22-2018 11:57 PM)MonsterTigerBlue Wrote: GP is playin the cards he is dealt ... somebody has to play the heel, errrrrin and ummin his way to becoming the Vodka Empire King
I dont hate the guy , just dislike all the discord he trys to toss out, seems like a tiny stummbling block and boy look at the big brain
on that cat, gettin ratings from the haters,,, smart to stir the pot.. only way he gets ratings but ya gotta do what ya gotta do..
I listen from time to time.. even though im not a fan !!! doing something right !!
Less than 1% of the total population of our metro area listen to sports radio at all and way less than that specifically to Parrish. So who cares except you diehard listeners?
And where did the less than 1% number come from? And Way less than that for GP? Yes way less listen to the other spots as compared to GP because GP comes on at a more opportune time for radio listeners at 4 to 6 PM. Your market share numbers are way off. With that said I am one of those who do not listen to GP. Can't stand his constant "look at me" references how right he believes he is in his opinions. Should change the name from the GP Show to "ME, ME and Some Sports Talk."
Gary is lazy. His show is lazy. He does very little preparation. Tubby Smith is easy for him to talk about and it generates interest.
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oruvoice
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:36 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: It does hurt. Another year of underachieving. Maybe Tubby can win out and fool another school to come after him.
I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
100% exactly correct. Best post on this subject, in quite some time!
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 12:07 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
100% exactly correct. Best post on this subject, in quite some time!
I agree.
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EricSigEpTNBeta183
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:36 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: It does hurt. Another year of underachieving. Maybe Tubby can win out and fool another school to come after him.
I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
You act like the pervious coach was a doing it the wrong way. You have to go back a decade ago to get into talks like that.
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RE: This one hurts...
MM you caught a few here I see. Well done. btigeresque
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 02:02 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
You act like the pervious coach was a doing it the wrong way. You have to go back a decade ago to get into talks like that.
Huh? He didn't even mention your boy Pastner.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:36 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: It does hurt. Another year of underachieving. Maybe Tubby can win out and fool another school to come after him.
I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
yep!
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:36 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: It does hurt. Another year of underachieving. Maybe Tubby can win out and fool another school to come after him.
I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
Crazy how all the good clean kids are JUCOs or outside the Top 600. Heck we are lucky if he even recruits a team at this point.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 03:02 PM)Titans3775 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
Crazy how all the good clean kids are JUCOs or outside the Top 600. Heck we are lucky if he even recruits a team at this point.
What are you even talking about?
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Titans3775
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 03:16 PM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:02 PM)Titans3775 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
Crazy how all the good clean kids are JUCOs or outside the Top 600. Heck we are lucky if he even recruits a team at this point.
What are you even talking about?
If I have to explain it to you, you aren't paying close enough attention.
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bariggins98
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: (02-23-2018 03:36 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: It does hurt. Another year of underachieving. Maybe Tubby can win out and fool another school to come after him.
I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
The anti Tubby crowd, of which I'm a member, has no problem with going the "blue collar" vs "blue chip" route if the majority of the players are freshmen, not JUCO mercenaries. By the time the JUCOs get acclimated (usually a year), they've burned half their eligibility. Educated Tiger fans see that, yes, the team will be better next year (provided everyone comes back) because they will have a full year together. The problem is that in a years time, the majority of these "experienced" players will be leaving and there is NOTHING coming in this year to take their spots. Unless this staff, with a penchant of whiffing on Top 150, talent lands 2-3 more freshmen, we will be in a 2-4 year cycle of JUCO hell. I would be a lot more tolerant of the moral victories and mediocrity if our rotation was comprised of mostly freshmen/sophomores, not JUCOs. That would be "building" a program the right way, not taking JUCOs and scheduling a slaw schedule to pile up worthless victories and win just enough to not get fired.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 04:24 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
The anti Tubby crowd, of which I'm a member, has no problem with going the "blue collar" vs "blue chip" route if the majority of the players are freshmen, not JUCO mercenaries. By the time the JUCOs get acclimated (usually a year), they've burned half their eligibility. Educated Tiger fans see that, yes, the team will be better next year (provided everyone comes back) because they will have a full year together. The problem is that in a years time, the majority of these "experienced" players will be leaving and there is NOTHING coming in this year to take their spots. Unless this staff, with a penchant of whiffing on Top 150, talent lands 2-3 more freshmen, we will be in a 2-4 year cycle of JUCO hell. I would be a lot more tolerant of the moral victories and mediocrity if our rotation was comprised of mostly freshmen/sophomores, not JUCOs. That would be "building" a program the right way, not taking JUCOs and scheduling a slaw schedule to pile up worthless victories and win just enough to not get fired.
I don’t think anyone is a fan of recruiting a team of Jucos (like Houston). Blame Tubby on the Lawson situation if you want, but how else was he going to field a competitive team that late in the year? Hopefully it was anomaly. But, I think we’ll have to go to that well again to replenish next year’s losses. Hopefully, we’ll sign another freshman or two this year and we’ll have a base of 4 year players.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 04:24 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: (02-23-2018 08:29 AM)Hoots Wrote: I'm curious about Tigers fans hoping we lose games so that Tubby leaves...do you not watch the games and pray for losses, or do you watch and hope we miss shots while the opponent makes theirs?
They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
The anti Tubby crowd, of which I'm a member, has no problem with going the "blue collar" vs "blue chip" route if the majority of the players are freshmen, not JUCO mercenaries. By the time the JUCOs get acclimated (usually a year), they've burned half their eligibility. Educated Tiger fans see that, yes, the team will be better next year (provided everyone comes back) because they will have a full year together. The problem is that in a years time, the majority of these "experienced" players will be leaving and there is NOTHING coming in this year to take their spots. Unless this staff, with a penchant of whiffing on Top 150, talent lands 2-3 more freshmen, we will be in a 2-4 year cycle of JUCO hell. I would be a lot more tolerant of the moral victories and mediocrity if our rotation was comprised of mostly freshmen/sophomores, not JUCOs. That would be "building" a program the right way, not taking JUCOs and scheduling a slaw schedule to pile up worthless victories and win just enough to not get fired.
Yep, Tubby took our proud tradition of top recruiting and turned it into a haunt for Jucos. Oh, and by the way, Trayshon Burrell, Ricky Tarrant, Avery Woodson, and Kedren Johnson all say hey.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 05:41 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: (02-23-2018 04:24 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:32 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote: They are not Tiger fans.
Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
The anti Tubby crowd, of which I'm a member, has no problem with going the "blue collar" vs "blue chip" route if the majority of the players are freshmen, not JUCO mercenaries. By the time the JUCOs get acclimated (usually a year), they've burned half their eligibility. Educated Tiger fans see that, yes, the team will be better next year (provided everyone comes back) because they will have a full year together. The problem is that in a years time, the majority of these "experienced" players will be leaving and there is NOTHING coming in this year to take their spots. Unless this staff, with a penchant of whiffing on Top 150, talent lands 2-3 more freshmen, we will be in a 2-4 year cycle of JUCO hell. I would be a lot more tolerant of the moral victories and mediocrity if our rotation was comprised of mostly freshmen/sophomores, not JUCOs. That would be "building" a program the right way, not taking JUCOs and scheduling a slaw schedule to pile up worthless victories and win just enough to not get fired.
Yep, Tubby took our proud tradition of top recruiting and turned it into a haunt for Jucos. Oh, and by the way, Trayshon Burrell, Ricky Tarrant, Avery Woodson, and Kedren Johnson all say hey.
Will Coleman too
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This one hurts...
Kedren wasn't a Juco fwiw.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 05:42 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-23-2018 05:41 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: (02-23-2018 04:24 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
The anti Tubby crowd, of which I'm a member, has no problem with going the "blue collar" vs "blue chip" route if the majority of the players are freshmen, not JUCO mercenaries. By the time the JUCOs get acclimated (usually a year), they've burned half their eligibility. Educated Tiger fans see that, yes, the team will be better next year (provided everyone comes back) because they will have a full year together. The problem is that in a years time, the majority of these "experienced" players will be leaving and there is NOTHING coming in this year to take their spots. Unless this staff, with a penchant of whiffing on Top 150, talent lands 2-3 more freshmen, we will be in a 2-4 year cycle of JUCO hell. I would be a lot more tolerant of the moral victories and mediocrity if our rotation was comprised of mostly freshmen/sophomores, not JUCOs. That would be "building" a program the right way, not taking JUCOs and scheduling a slaw schedule to pile up worthless victories and win just enough to not get fired.
Yep, Tubby took our proud tradition of top recruiting and turned it into a haunt for Jucos. Oh, and by the way, Trayshon Burrell, Ricky Tarrant, Avery Woodson, and Kedren Johnson all say hey.
Will Coleman too
What about Geron Johnson? And even Special K Larry Kenon.
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RE: This one hurts...
(02-23-2018 05:42 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-23-2018 05:41 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: (02-23-2018 04:24 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (02-23-2018 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (02-23-2018 09:42 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: Sure we are. In fact, we're bigger tiger fans than the rest of you. We see the big picture. We see the future of our beloved program is at stake. We don't live game to game and moral victory to moral victory. We see the big picture, and if all remains the same, it's going to get a lot worse.
Honestly, I think its the small picture you see and not the big one. If this program is built on the backs of payoffs and 1 & dones, then the program will be shuttered up. Yes, everyone else is doing it, but we aren't allowed to play that game... which is why Tubby isn't wasting his time recruiting kids with their hands out. Of course, that's the quick fix, but it ain't going to happen under Tubby. He's going to recruit a team of blue collar kids and hope the right 4-5 star is willing to come and compliment them. Maybe this is the long road, but we can't afford to do it the wrong way.
The anti Tubby crowd, of which I'm a member, has no problem with going the "blue collar" vs "blue chip" route if the majority of the players are freshmen, not JUCO mercenaries. By the time the JUCOs get acclimated (usually a year), they've burned half their eligibility. Educated Tiger fans see that, yes, the team will be better next year (provided everyone comes back) because they will have a full year together. The problem is that in a years time, the majority of these "experienced" players will be leaving and there is NOTHING coming in this year to take their spots. Unless this staff, with a penchant of whiffing on Top 150, talent lands 2-3 more freshmen, we will be in a 2-4 year cycle of JUCO hell. I would be a lot more tolerant of the moral victories and mediocrity if our rotation was comprised of mostly freshmen/sophomores, not JUCOs. That would be "building" a program the right way, not taking JUCOs and scheduling a slaw schedule to pile up worthless victories and win just enough to not get fired.
Yep, Tubby took our proud tradition of top recruiting and turned it into a haunt for Jucos. Oh, and by the way, Trayshon Burrell, Ricky Tarrant, Avery Woodson, and Kedren Johnson all say hey.
Will Coleman too
All program changers and all time Tiger greats. Thanks for proving my point.
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