Quote:During his speech at CPAC, NRA chief Wayne LaPierre hit back at critics and had harsh words to say in light of the most recent school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

LaPierre is a well-known supporter of the Second Amendment and made it very clear in his speech that the right to bear arms was not the problem. He was extremely critical of the lack of security in schools and compared it to sporting events and awards shows.

He also slammed critics who wish to politicize the shooting in order to push their agenda.

“They hide behind labels like Democrat, left-wing, and progressive to make their socialist agenda more palatable, and that is terrifying,” LaPierre said.

He stated that the organization shared many of the same goals as activists but did not agree it should start with those who followed the law.

“What they want is more restrictions on the law-abiding,” LaPierre said. “They want to sweep right under the carpet the failure of school security.”

https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2018/02/...e=hs_email

Here is the full speech:

and the choir said "Amen"!!!


preach it brother LaPierre

How much would it cost to have a number of armed guards at every school in the country?

He supports ISIS to own guns in this country. This guy needs to go, and the NRA needs new leadership. I know several NRA members want to create their own organization that is different than the NRA right now. I know many NRA card holder do believe in gun control and banned certain things.

(02-22-2018 05:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  How much would it cost to have a number of armed guards at every school in the country?

Roughly 100,000 public schools in the country. Assuming there's one armed guard per school and we're paying them $40,000/year, it would be $4 billion per year.

(02-22-2018 05:22 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  He supports ISIS to own guns in this country. This guy needs to go, and the NRA needs new leadership. I know several NRA members want to create their own organization that is different than the NRA right now. I know many NRA card holder do believe in gun control and banned certain things.

He really jumped the shark yesterday with his Paranoia rant. You can see why the NRA types are afraid of mental health screening.

(02-22-2018 05:26 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 05:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  How much would it cost to have a number of armed guards at every school in the country?

Roughly 100,000 public schools in the country. Assuming there's one armed guard per school and we're paying them $40,000/year, it would be $4 billion per year.

Let's remove two administrators from each school, re-allocate their salaries to pay for two armed guards, and put the rest of the money saved each year into additional safety and security.

I should run for school board. This isn't that hard.

(02-22-2018 05:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  How much would it cost to have a number of armed guards at every school in the country?

The Department of Education's budget is almost $70 billion, I'm sure they can make a cut here and there to pay for it.

Or...

Here's 25% of it right here.....

https://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/r...t-spending

Almost every office in America now requires badges to even get in. Some require badges to open the gates at their parking lots. It's not hard to limit access to a facility when you actually want to limit access to it. No one should be able to just walk up to a school in this day and age and reach a classroom before a security check.

There is no excuse.

(02-22-2018 05:26 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 05:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  How much would it cost to have a number of armed guards at every school in the country?

Roughly 100,000 public schools in the country. Assuming there's one armed guard per school and we're paying them $40,000/year, it would be $4 billion per year.

Quote:It would likely take a squad of nine to 11 well-trained guards—and possibly more for large schools with athletic facilities or multiple points of entry. The Department of Education estimates there are approximately 131,890 public and private K-12 schools in America, meaning it could take 1.3 million armed guards to secure the nation’s schools. That’s equal to the size of the entire active duty U.S. military today. But to deploy that many guards, it would take an even larger force to recruit, train, equip, and manage all those personnel, with the costs running into the hundreds of billions of dollars if military compensation is any guide.

Why Sending Armed Veterans to Guard Schools Would Be Ludicrous

(02-23-2018 10:22 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Almost every office in America now requires badges to even get in. Some require badges to open the gates at their parking lots. It's not hard to limit access to a facility when you actually want to limit access to it. No one should be able to just walk up to a school in this day and age and reach a classroom before a security check.

There is no excuse.

We have card entry and a sliding partition. It's short and could be easily jumped over. Not to mention, anyone with a weapon could simply start shooting as he entered and a card reader would be of little deterrence.

No, it's not hard to make it better...but it's EXTREMELY costly.

Quote:It would likely take a squad of nine to 11 well-trained guards—and possibly more for large schools with athletic facilities or multiple points of entry.

Nope. That's not what anyone is claiming. No one remotely is saying that each school should have 9 to 11 well trained guards.

(02-23-2018 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:22 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Almost every office in America now requires badges to even get in. Some require badges to open the gates at their parking lots. It's not hard to limit access to a facility when you actually want to limit access to it. No one should be able to just walk up to a school in this day and age and reach a classroom before a security check.

There is no excuse.

We have card entry and a sliding partition. It's short and could be easily jumped over. Not to mention, anyone with a weapon could simply start shooting as he entered and a card reader would be of little deterrence.

I can't open the door to get in without my badge. Security at your place is non-existent.

Again, no excuse. Our kids need to be protected from more than just deranged gunmen.

(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

Quote:It would likely take a squad of nine to 11 well-trained guards—and possibly more for large schools with athletic facilities or multiple points of entry.

Nope. That's not what anyone is claiming. No one remotely is saying that each school should have 9 to 11 well trained guards.

It's called an average. And he's talking about stationing guards at multiple points of entry and also at athletic events. Additionally, schools have all kinds of events throughout the day and weekend. You can't have one or two guards working 24x7. You would need more than one shift.

(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:22 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Almost every office in America now requires badges to even get in. Some require badges to open the gates at their parking lots. It's not hard to limit access to a facility when you actually want to limit access to it. No one should be able to just walk up to a school in this day and age and reach a classroom before a security check.

There is no excuse.

We have card entry and a sliding partition. It's short and could be easily jumped over. Not to mention, anyone with a weapon could simply start shooting as he entered and a card reader would be of little deterrence.

I can't open the door to get in without my badge. Security at your place is non-existent.

Again, no excuse. Our kids need to be protected from more than just deranged gunmen.

Agreed...my point was that to make it so, it would be costly. Most businesses are likely as mine is...the card entry is more to track when you're coming and going and keeping any Joe Schmo from just randomly walking in. Making it prison grade would be cost prohibitive.

(02-23-2018 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

Quote:It would likely take a squad of nine to 11 well-trained guards—and possibly more for large schools with athletic facilities or multiple points of entry.

Nope. That's not what anyone is claiming. No one remotely is saying that each school should have 9 to 11 well trained guards.

It's called an average. And he's talking about stationing guards at multiple points of entry and also at athletic events. Additionally, schools have all kinds of events throughout the day and weekend. You can't have one or two guards working 24x7. You would need more than one shift.

Nope. No school needs that many guards in any capacity and no one is stating that the guards need to be after school or on weekends, and especially not 24/7. One guard, maybe two, stationed at secured entrances to schools during the school day is a perfect and cost-effective start.

Plus, don't forget the armed teachers and administrators.

(02-23-2018 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:22 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Almost every office in America now requires badges to even get in. Some require badges to open the gates at their parking lots. It's not hard to limit access to a facility when you actually want to limit access to it. No one should be able to just walk up to a school in this day and age and reach a classroom before a security check.

There is no excuse.

We have card entry and a sliding partition. It's short and could be easily jumped over. Not to mention, anyone with a weapon could simply start shooting as he entered and a card reader would be of little deterrence.

I can't open the door to get in without my badge. Security at your place is non-existent.

Again, no excuse. Our kids need to be protected from more than just deranged gunmen.

Agreed...my point was that to make it so, it would be costly. Most businesses are likely as mine is...the card entry is more to track when you're coming and going and keeping any Joe Schmo from just randomly walking in. Making it prison grade would be cost prohibitive.

Well it is worth it. The most precious thing we have are our children and the only way to protect them effectively is to make the places they are at secure. You can't protect them all of the time but schools should be made as secure as possible. I'd much rather pay for bullet proof glass, security doors, and badge readers than to pay for administrators to go on Summer sabbaticals.

Quote:POCATELLO, Idaho -- An Idaho State University instructor was wounded in the foot after a concealed handgun in the person's pocket discharged during a chemistry lab session with students in the room, school officials said.

Arriving Pocatello police officers found the instructor on Tuesday in the Physical Science Complex with a non-life threatening injury.

The person was treated and released at Portneuf Medical Center, police Lt. Paul Manning said. No other injuries were reported.

Police said the person had the proper permits to carry a concealed weapon on campus.

CBS News

(02-23-2018 10:34 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

Quote:It would likely take a squad of nine to 11 well-trained guards—and possibly more for large schools with athletic facilities or multiple points of entry.

Nope. That's not what anyone is claiming. No one remotely is saying that each school should have 9 to 11 well trained guards.

It's called an average. And he's talking about stationing guards at multiple points of entry and also at athletic events. Additionally, schools have all kinds of events throughout the day and weekend. You can't have one or two guards working 24x7. You would need more than one shift.

Nope. No school needs that many guards in any capacity and no one is stating that the guards need to be after school or on weekends, and especially not 24/7. One guard, maybe two, stationed at secured entrances to schools during the school day is a perfect and cost-effective start.

Plus, don't forget the armed teachers and administrators.

Okay...so it may cost 10's of billions instead of 100's of billions. And it would still be a complete disaster. It's a horrible idea. Any rational person knows it.