(02-22-2018 11:41 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 11:10 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:02 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:01 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Is Tubby delusional, or just deceptive?

Irregardless, as we say in the English department, the outcome is the same.

Tubby could announce early retirement and I'd be singing, "Here Comes the Sun"!

Wut?

pretty sure you are now a victim of ES.

Extreme sarcasm - When your sarcasm is so advanced others think you are an idiot.

Is this a new thing?

You sweet summer child.

We don't want to win too fast. We're ahead of schedule

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Who is the beast that will stop us...

Wichita is losing a lot, Houston is losing a lot, Cinci is losing a lot (But I am sure they will reload).

UCF is the one team that will likely come back stronger who is ahead of us currently.

But if he doesn't recruit a couple of guys to fill our holes it is highly unlikely.

I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

(02-22-2018 12:55 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:47 PM)RandyW_Class83 Wrote:  The point some are trying to make is we may be one of the top teams in our conference next year. Over the past few decades, Tiger Basketball has never compared itself to the other members in our conference. We have always determined success by how we are viewed at a national level. In a majority of those years by finishing among Top 25 in the polls. If we do that, the other things will then take care of themselves (i.e. getting into the tournament, advancing to the Sweet 16 every few years, etc.). In the past, being one of the top teams in our conference has never been a goal for this program. Should we now make this our goal for the future?

Have whatever goal you want. Calipari is gone. That ship has sailed...

Why do you think Cal is the only one that can sustain that level for us? What about our history with Coach Bartow, Dana Kirk, and Larry Finch who all achieved a Top 25 program during a large portion of their tenure here?

(02-22-2018 01:24 PM)stratecashomie Wrote:  We are hosting the 2019 AAC tournament so we got homecourt!

(02-22-2018 01:28 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 01:24 PM)stratecashomie Wrote:  We are hosting the 2019 AAC tournament so we got homecourt!

we should all meet there. lol

(02-22-2018 01:36 PM)gusrob Wrote:  He was thrilled to come in 6th in AAC with last year's talent. Now he thinks we'll compete for 1st in AAC w/current roster plus current recruits.

Does he already know that we're bringing in Penny and his crew?

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Who is the beast that will stop us...

Wichita is losing a lot, Houston is losing a lot, Cinci is losing a lot (But I am sure they will reload).

UCF is the one team that will likely come back stronger who is ahead of us currently.

But if he doesn't recruit a couple of guys to fill our holes it is highly unlikely.

I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

I think some just enjoy life thru rose colored glasses. That's great for fans. That's not great for the leader of our program.

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Who is the beast that will stop us...

Wichita is losing a lot, Houston is losing a lot, Cinci is losing a lot (But I am sure they will reload).

UCF is the one team that will likely come back stronger who is ahead of us currently.

But if he doesn't recruit a couple of guys to fill our holes it is highly unlikely.

I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

And there's the much maligned eye-test.

All we need do is watch other teams play--especially their conference championship games.

(02-22-2018 07:29 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Rest easy, Tiger fans!

Quote:Another year with this group, I think we’ll be challenging for the top spot in this league also.”

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...350817002/

Could mental deficiency be considered cause????

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Who is the beast that will stop us...

Wichita is losing a lot, Houston is losing a lot, Cinci is losing a lot (But I am sure they will reload).

UCF is the one team that will likely come back stronger who is ahead of us currently.

But if he doesn't recruit a couple of guys to fill our holes it is highly unlikely.

I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

(02-22-2018 09:01 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Is Tubby delusional, or just deceptive?

Irregardless, as we say in the English department, the outcome is the same.

Tubby could announce early retirement and I'd be singing, "Here Comes the Sun"!

What concerns me most in this statement is the fact that we have people in our English department using the non standard irregardless.

Tubby's trying to make it appear as progress. It's part of the con.

(02-22-2018 03:29 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:01 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Is Tubby delusional, or just deceptive?

Irregardless, as we say in the English department, the outcome is the same.

Tubby could announce early retirement and I'd be singing, "Here Comes the Sun"!

What concerns me most in this statement is the fact that we have people in our English department using the non standard irregardless.

What concerns me more is we have posters who don't read about three more posts down before spouting off nonsense.

(02-22-2018 03:29 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:01 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Is Tubby delusional, or just deceptive?

Irregardless, as we say in the English department, the outcome is the same.

Tubby could announce early retirement and I'd be singing, "Here Comes the Sun"!

What concerns me most in this statement is the fact that we have people in our English department using the non standard irregardless.

It's a blend of irrespective and regardless--an emphatic use of regardless
The point of irregardless is to shut down convos

The theory of Tubby relativity.

Just by being in the league, we "challenge" for the top spot.

(02-22-2018 03:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Who is the beast that will stop us...

Wichita is losing a lot, Houston is losing a lot, Cinci is losing a lot (But I am sure they will reload).

UCF is the one team that will likely come back stronger who is ahead of us currently.

But if he doesn't recruit a couple of guys to fill our holes it is highly unlikely.

I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

Oh good, send notice to the Tourney Committee that we really aren't as bad as the scores indicate.

Josh, is that you?!

(02-22-2018 04:01 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

Oh good, send notice to the Tourney Committee that we really aren't as bad as the scores indicate.

Josh, is that you?!

We’ll see.

(02-22-2018 03:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Who is the beast that will stop us...

Wichita is losing a lot, Houston is losing a lot, Cinci is losing a lot (But I am sure they will reload).

UCF is the one team that will likely come back stronger who is ahead of us currently.

But if he doesn't recruit a couple of guys to fill our holes it is highly unlikely.

I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

Memphis lost to Bama, LSU, WSU, Cinci (2), and Louisville by a combined 99 points.

Heck nine of their 11 losses are by 9 points or more.

They are 3-8 vs. Kenpom top 100 with a scoring margin of (-9.5), and that includes a win over a totally depleted SMU team that lost 5 in row and only scored 37 points in the next game.

44% of Memphis' wins are by five points or fewer.

(02-22-2018 04:50 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

Memphis lost to Bama, LSU, WSU, Cinci (2), and Louisville by a combined 99 points.

Heck nine of their 11 losses are by 9 points or more.

They are 3-8 vs. Kenpom top 100 with a scoring margin of (-9.5), and that includes a win over a totally depleted SMU team that lost 5 in row and only scored 37 points in the next game.

44% of Memphis' wins are by five points or fewer.

If those facts don't sober people up, I don't know what will.

Next year is just another wash with Tubby.

(02-22-2018 04:50 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 09:18 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I agree 100%. If we can fill a couple of holes we’ll be an NCAA bubble team next year.

I just don’t get the gloom and doom.

Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

Memphis lost to Bama, LSU, WSU, Cinci (2), and Louisville by a combined 99 points.

Heck nine of their 11 losses are by 9 points or more.

They are 3-8 vs. Kenpom top 100 with a scoring margin of (-9.5), and that includes a win over a totally depleted SMU team that lost 5 in row and only scored 37 points in the next game.

44% of Memphis' wins are by five points or fewer.

We saw the games... most were competitive for a large part of the game. In the end, the better team won the games you detailed. Look at the stats at those games. Most of them we shot under 20% from 3. Just hit low 30s and those games are really in play. My middle schoolers do better than 20%. And in most of those games we were within reach for a good part of the game.

It’s hard quantify PG play. But we’ve watched the games. Too many turnovers and too much pressure on Martin.

(02-22-2018 05:07 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:50 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:19 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Because THIS team, by any statistical measure, isn't good.

Whether you want to look at Kenpom where Memphis is at 160, or RPI, or Sagarin, etc.

As of today, Memphis has a negative scoring margin. That has only happened SEVEN times in the last 55 years and the last one was 24 years ago.

Their three best wins are vs. Northern Kentucky, Tulsa, and Temple (who is 7th in the AAC).

Memphis is 6th in the conference.

So what's the upside? They bring all the same players back from a 6th place team who doesn't outscore opponents and can't really compete with decent teams.

That makes sense.

Saluki.....Bring'n the STATS!!!!!!

We’ve been competitive in almost every game.

The first game at Cinci was a huge beat down. We weren’t close to UAB (which isn’t good). We competed the second time with Cinci and WSU. The scores don’t reflect that.

We competed in almost every game other than a few. We don’t make 3 point shots and it’s hard to win games when you shoot as poorly as we do. We also really need a point guard. I think if we can find a PG and a couple of shooters, we could be a significantly better team.

With the right pieces, we could be a 22-24 win team next year. That’s not incredibly good either based on our competition, but good enough to put us on the bubble.

Memphis lost to Bama, LSU, WSU, Cinci (2), and Louisville by a combined 99 points.

Heck nine of their 11 losses are by 9 points or more.

They are 3-8 vs. Kenpom top 100 with a scoring margin of (-9.5), and that includes a win over a totally depleted SMU team that lost 5 in row and only scored 37 points in the next game.

44% of Memphis' wins are by five points or fewer.

Stats can be misleading. Take out the Cinci beatdown and the margin of loss isn’t as bad.

Taking out the Cinci beating still means Memphis has lost 8 of 10 by 9 or more points.

Taking out the Cinci beatdown still means Memphis has won nearly half of its games by 5 points or fewer.

Taking out the Cinci beatdown still means Memphis has only won 3 games vs. the kenpom top 100. A three point win over Temple, a two point win over NKU, and a three point win over a decimated SMU team.