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The DNC didn’t turn over the server
(02-20-2018 09:18 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 09:03 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 11:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 10:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And they said they didn’t need the physical servers. Fact. You guys are chasing ghosts that exist in your minds. They got what they needed.

They settled for receiving the "data" collected by Crowdstrike because the DNC refused to turn over the servers.

As an aside this would be a huge stumbling block in any potential prosecution of the hacker if they were ever able to determine who it was and apprehend them because of the lack of a chain of custody. Any defense attorney worth their salt would hammer that as much as possible to A. either get the evidence thrown out or B. cause reasonable doubt, especially when you add in the fact that one of the co-founders of Crowdstrike is also associated with the anti-Russian Atlantic Council and Crowdstrike itself has been caught misrepresenting data regarding Russian hacking of an app that allowed Ukrainian artillery to be targeted.

This I did not know. Very interesting.

Before reading your post I was wondering if it could not be possible that the DNC knew they weren't hacked by Ruskis, but decided the Ruskis made a better story than the truth. Toss in your comments about Crowdstrike, and it gets all the more interesting. I'm not one who is normally into conspiracy theories, but with that bunch at the DNC, who were actively trying to sabatoge poor Bernie, anything's possible.

Yup. Interesting indeed.

https://medium.com/@REEL_ICO_TALK/crowds...2d0e2468f9

Quote:Crowdstrike’s Danger Close intelligence report is an analytic failure of epic proportions, but more importantly, it has harmed the morale of the people of Ukraine as well as cast doubt in the minds of the Ukrainian soldiers who relied upon the app.

The report repeats a pro-Russian military blogger’s exaggerated figures of an 80% loss rate of Ukraine’s D-30 artillery caused in part by a variant of the same malware used in the DNC hack.

The Ministry of Ukraine denies the allegations and states that the number of lost artillery is less than 80% and they lost no artillery due to the cause proposed by Crowdstrike.

Crowdstrike claimed that the GRU identified a targeting app, wrote malware for it, and used the compromised apps to geolocate and bomb their artillery.

Adam Meyers: “Russian hackers … tricked Ukrainian servicemen into downloading a contaminated version of the software (that) would have allowed attackers to monitor Ukrainian units’ rough position on the battlefield “in real time” using GPS.”

That sounds great except for the fact that the malware doesn’t ask for GPS location data.

CrySys Lab: “The malicious APK does not use GPS to get exact location of the infected phone, it does not even ask for GPS-level position information.”

Quote:Crowdstrike hasn’t said how many of Sherstuck’s devices were infected (the answer is zero), nor have they attempted to contact Sherstuck himself. If they had, they would have saved themselves the embarrassment of claiming an effect that would be impossible for the malware to execute on that app.

The company found one piece of malware and one video, and from that flimsy evidence built an entire house of cards whose only purpose was to grab headlines. I doubt that Dmitri Alperovich or Adam Meyers, the report’s co-authors, gave even a moment’s consideration to the damaging effect that it would have on the citizens and soldiers of Ukraine. And so far, neither of them have issued a retraction or an apology.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/24/crowds...dnc-story/

Quote:The analysis that alleged that Russia was behind the DNC server breach was carried out not by the U.S. government, but by the private security group CrowdStrike.

CrowdStrike is the sole source of this claim, with their June 2016 report, “Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee” being the basis of the DNC’s Russian hacking allegations.

Here are five key points about CrowdStrike that the mainstream media is ignoring:

1. Obama Appoints CrowdStrike Officer To Admin Post Two Months Before June 2016 Report On Russia Hacking DNC

In April 2016, two months before the June report that alleged a Russian conspiracy, former President Barack Obama appointed Steven Chabinsky, the general counsel and chief risk officer for CrowdStrike, to the Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity.

CrowdStrike co-founder George Kurtz said at the time, “We wish Steve and the rest of the Commissioners every success in this important effort. Their
rest of the Commissioners every success in this important effort. Their dedicated and thoughtful leadership on these issues holds great potential for promoting innovation and the benefits of technology, while lowering the very real security risks we are facing today.”

2. The FBI Never Looked At The DNC’s Servers — Only CrowdStrike Did

As far as we know, the FBI still has not examined the DNC server that Russia allegedly hacked.

There has been no corroboration or second opinion on who may have hacked the server. The only source for this claim is CrowdStrike, who began monitoring the DNC system on May 5th, 2016, according to DailyMail.com.

The DNC also reportedly paid $168,000 to CrowdStrike.

3. Comey Contradicted The DNC’s Story On The FBI Asking To See The Server

The DNC claimed in January that the reason the FBI never examined their hacked server was simple–the FBI never requested to do so. Yet, DNC deputy communications director Eric Walker gave told BuzzFeed News in an email, “The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI’s Cyber Division and its Washington (DC) Field Office, the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, and U.S. Attorney’s Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers.”

However, this claim was contradicted by then-FBI director James Comey, who said in a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing in January that there were “multiple requests at different levels” to look at the DNC’s servers. Instead, Comey said a “highly respected private company” got access to the servers–meaning CrowdStrike.

A senior FBI official told WIRED in January, “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated.”

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

As Josephine Wolff of Slate pointed out, “…whether because they were denied access or simply never asked for it, the FBI instead used the analysis of the DNC breach conducted by security firm CrowdStrike as the basis for its investigation. Regardless of who is telling the truth about what really happened, perhaps the most astonishing thing about this probe is that a private firm’s investigation and attribution was deemed sufficient by both the DNC and the FBI.”



4. CrowdStrike Co-Founder Is Fellow On Russia Hawk Group, Has Connections To George Soros, Ukrainian Billionaire

Co-Founder and CTO of CrowdStrike Dmitri Alperovitch is a nonresident senior fellow on the Atlantic Council.

The Atlantic Council is hawkish on Russia, previously publishing reports about topics like how the West can “get tougher” on Russia, how to “fight back Against Russian political warfare,” how to respond “to Russia’s Anti-Western Aggression.”

Other articles are titled, “From Russia with Hate: The Kremlin’s Support for Violent Extremism in Central Europe” and “Here’s Why You Should Worry About Russian Propaganda.”

In one article published by the Atlantic Council, writer Stephen Blank claims that Russia is a more urgent security threat than terrorism.

Further, the Atlantic Council is funded by NATO, enhancing the hawkish view on Russia.

The Atlantic Council is also funded by the “Open Society Initiative for Europe,” a program of leftist billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Foundation.

The Open Society Initiative for Europe has written that they support, “initiatives that strengthen the protection of migrants and the politics of inclusion, giving the leading role and voice in advocating policies and social change to migrants and refugees, their descendants, and their allies in civil society.”

The Atlantic Council is also funded by the Victor Pinchuk Foundation.

Pinchuk is a Ukrainian billionaire who reportedly gave $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, and was invited to Clinton’s home for a dinner in 2012 while she was secretary of state, despite an earlier denial from a Clinton spokesperson that “never on her schedule” during her time as Secretary.

5. CrowdStrike Is Funded By Clinton-Loving Google $$

Finally, it’s worth pointing out that CrowdStrike received $100 million in investments led by Google Capital (since re-branded as CapitalG) in 2015.

CapitalG is owned by Alphabet, and Eric Schmidt, Alphabet’s chairman, was a supporter of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. More than just supporting Clinton, leaked emails from Wikileaks in November 2016 showed that in 2014 he wanted to have an active role in the campaign.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Schmidt “sent a Clinton campaign official a lengthy memo with advice on running the campaign. He told campaign officials he was ‘ready to fund, advise recruit talent,’ and ‘clearly wants to be head outside advisor,’ according to a 2014 email from Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta to campaign manager Robby Mook.”

And Politico reported in November 2016 that Schmidt “served in a personal capacity as an adviser to the Clinton operation,” and wore a “staff” badge at her election night party.

Schmidt also funded a startup called, “The Groundwork.” An article in Quartz titled, “The stealthy, Eric Schmidt-backed startup that’s working to put Hillary Clinton in the White House,” details its operations.

“The Groundwork, according to Democratic campaign operatives and technologists, is part of efforts by Schmidt—the executive chairman of Google parent-company Alphabet—to ensure that Clinton has the engineering talent needed to win the election,” the article says.

“And it is one of a series of quiet investments by Schmidt that recognize how modern political campaigns are run, with data analytics and digital outreach as vital ingredients that allow candidates to find, court, and turn out critical voter blocs.”

The post also calls Schmidt “one of the most powerful donors in the Democratic Party.”

There are other connections between Google money and the Democratic Party.

Stephanie Hannon, former Director of Product Management for Google, left in 2015 to become Hillary Clinton’s Chief Technology Officer for her 2016 campaign.


All this,


And they still failed. Spectacularly.

Rigged every way til Sunday, total flameout.


Too funny.

If you can’t win while cheating in every way imaginable, rigged, shall I say?, how you winning a straight up head to head?!?

1000 seats. A THOUSAND!

Buh, bye.
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Is it possible that the Hillary team knew they were rigging things, and when they lost the only possible answer was that the other side had done a better job of rigging?

I'm reminded of a Bear Bryant comment about paying football players, "When it's fourth and goal at the 1 yard line, I don't want to have to worry that maybe somebody else paid him more."
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(02-20-2018 09:49 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Is it possible that the Hillary team knew they were rigging things, and when they lost the only possible answer was that the other side had done a better job of rigging?

I'm reminded of a Bear Bryant comment about paying football players, "When it's fourth and goal at the 1 yard line, I don't want to have to worry that maybe somebody else paid him more."


To the former, that’s EXACTLY what they are/were/did try to peddle. Many bought it, hook, line, sinker but now the boats done sprung a leak.

The first one to float all this crap out there was H> herself, in whatever excuse making “What the F#%^ just happened” tour speech she was making.

Fake news, Russian interference, Macedonian twitter-troll mills, Broke ass DNC, whatever else utter lunacy she was trying to sell.

All came from her to start.

Lunacy then, lunacy now. Funny to watch. Fascinating.
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