(02-20-2018 03:00 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:42 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:30 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:06 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:46 PM)Topkat Wrote:  That is why I mentioned a structured fast break, where everyone knows where they are supposed to be.

It would be better than pulling the ball back out because you transition directly into an offense instead of the mindless dribbling above the key.

My counter to the "doubt the percentages would hold" argument is, I would be willing to bet the effective field goal percentage shown when holding the ball on offense from 11-30 seconds is a lot lower the closer you get to the shot clock expiring.

Every team runs "structured" fast breaks except old Mick teams. For most part guys running to their spots on court or run to where they about run offense from.

Maybe add some color to the statement, I'm not sure what you are saying.

Go play a little YMCA basketball. Maybe you'll learn something... I can't take you serious if you just believe players run fast breaks like chicken with their heads cut off...

Well now, you didn't have to go and try and insult someone. I'm not sure why the anger?

I played through high school on a Division 1 basketball team in Ohio. A taste of varsity ball my Sophomore year. Junior and Senior years on varsity.

Like most things in life, probably played more than some, less than others.

What does that have to do with anything? It's all opinions.

This isn't High School.

(02-20-2018 04:08 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:00 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:42 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:30 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 02:06 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  Every team runs "structured" fast breaks except old Mick teams. For most part guys running to their spots on court or run to where they about run offense from.

Maybe add some color to the statement, I'm not sure what you are saying.

Go play a little YMCA basketball. Maybe you'll learn something... I can't take you serious if you just believe players run fast breaks like chicken with their heads cut off...

Well now, you didn't have to go and try and insult someone. I'm not sure why the anger?

I played through high school on a Division 1 basketball team in Ohio. A taste of varsity ball my Sophomore year. Junior and Senior years on varsity.

Like most things in life, probably played more than some, less than others.

What does that have to do with anything? It's all opinions.

This isn't High School.

No, but it was just an opinion

Be happy!

(02-20-2018 02:06 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:46 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 01:25 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Since I've always been an advocate of speeding up UC's offensive tempo... I'll just use some stats.

I don't think UC looks enough for breaks or attacks the basket enough. Surely, too much of a good thing can lead to disaster, however, I still believe we don't look enough for outlet passes to fast break after a rebound, or attack the basket enough (with those who have a decent enough handle).

The UCLA break of the 60's and 70's was onto something. Wooden was a smart man.

For Cincinnati this year:

After a Defensive Rebound...

UC's effective FG% is 54% when they attempt a shot within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock.

UC's effective FG% is 47% when they attempt a shot after 11-30 seconds of the shot clock.

My take away is the earlier you attack on offense, the higher your FG%. You can still have offensive structure while pushing the ball, but it needs put in place pre-season.

After an Opponents Score...

UC's effective FG% is 50% after opponents score when our shot is taken within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock.

UC's effective FG% is 47% after opponents score when our shot is taken after 11-30 seconds of the shot clock.

Same take away.

The field goal percentages (within the same time frames) after a steal should be pretty self evident. Steals in and of themselves lend to more break away points.

http://www.hoop-math.com/Cincinnati2018.php

Thanks for linking this website. Good stuff.

My biggest takeaway is their shooting percentage is higher on faster possessions because they are taking their shots at the rim. When a shot at the rim isn't there they slow it down.

Here is the percentage of shots they take at the rim if they are taking a shot within the first 10 seconds: 63.5% off a rebound, 65.2% of an opponent score, 75.4% off of a steal. That tells me when they are pushing they are looking for layups... if its not there they pull it out. If they started forcing more shots I doubt their percentages would hold.

That is why I mentioned a structured fast break, where everyone knows where they are supposed to be.

It would be better than pulling the ball back out because you transition directly into an offense instead of the mindless dribbling above the key.

My counter to the "doubt the percentages would hold" argument is, I would be willing to bet the effective field goal percentage shown when holding the ball on offense from 11-30 seconds is a lot lower the closer you get to the shot clock expiring.

Every team runs "structured" fast breaks except old Mick teams. For most part guys running to their spots on court or run to where they about run offense from.

huh?

(02-20-2018 11:33 AM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:28 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:11 PM)pvtlamb Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:54 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  We haven't played a team that could match our length or athleticism this year besides UCLA or FL. No way we should be getting punked by UH or WSU. Have learn switch it up Mick

Hmmm - seems like the stats would indicate WSU athleticism compares to Cincy?

I think WSU length was at least equal except for your huge 6'11" guy.

At one point on the floor for WSU was 6'4", 6'5", 6'8", 6'9", 6'8". And we had 6'10" Nurger off the bench.

Don't take him seriously

Cronin postgame DIDN'T mention NOTHING about computer rankings. What did he talk about? Defense and rebounding... In game thread who was ONLY person that argued we lost because of defense and rebounding? My basketball knowledge a run circles around you....

Maybe but if you can't explain your vast knowledge intelligibly, does it matter?

I think your Amos and Andy routine is cute, but Im having a hard time buying that its for real.