(02-19-2018 03:59 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Math people.
Nebraska got more money going to the Big 10. They were a winner under the unbalanced revenue sharing. If it had been balanced Big 10 would have been a bigger increase in revenue. Nebraska had coveted Big 10 membership for decades because of the prestige. Rank fantasy to say Nebraska would have stayed.

TAMU had been flirting with SEC since 1989. The defections of Nebraska and Colorado had everyone convinced the league was dead. Mizzou was publicly begging to join Big 10. Texas brokered a deal for UT, TAMU, TT, OU and OkSt to go Pac-12 to keep most of the gang together. TAMU blew it up refusing to go to P12 and cutting a deal to go SEC. The teams to be left used the fight to offer to let everyone sell third tier. UT offered to jointly sell 3rd tier with TAMU the Aggies declined and then got pissed because UT cut a better solo deal than they could have.
Please quit pretending the Big XII was 11 angels getting sand kicked in their face.
Unbalanced sharing existed in Big 8 before Texas joined oh those mean old bullies.


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The real truth is that both UT & TAMU are equal to blame over this matter. Yes, Texas did broker a deal whereby TAMU, TT, UT, OU, and the OSU Cowboys would join the PAC 10/12. TAMU president was actually in favor of this deal from a personal standpoint. However, the TAMU regents & powerful alumni were not, including Gene Stallings, a former ‘Bama head coach & RC Slocum, a TAMU coaching legend. The regents forced President Loftin not to take PAC 10/12 deal. All was quiet for awhile until the Longhorns got LHN. Yes, even Aggies will admit it was a mistake to turn down Texas offer on joint owned third tier rights. But, make no mistake on this, it was the LHN that got TAMU to bolt for the SEC. Former TAMU president Loftin himself said this in the book “The 100 year Decision.” I can see Texas brokering a similar deal with the Pac12 once LHN is gone & the GOR expires, with Kansas replacing TAMU.

Only problem with Pac12 is game times and TV exposure.

(02-20-2018 07:48 AM)Golota Wrote:  Only problem with Pac12 is game times and TV exposure.

Actually this would help the PAC12/16(if they were to add these teams) because now there would be a lot of games played in the central time zone.

Not sure if Oklahoma would go PAC12, they have been flirting with the SEC for a couple years now. Even if the SEC were to add both Oklahoma schools, move Mizzou to the west and Bama and Auburn move east. Fixes the SEC's geographic problem.

(02-19-2018 12:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That would leave Tulane, Tulsa, UConn, Temple and possibly ECU, Navy or SMU without a home. I guess WSU can go back to the MVC if they would have them then.

At that time would CUSA or the Sun Belt drop some dead weight for ECU, Navy or UConn. Tulane, Tulsa and Temple can die on the vine if they like. But no way should any programs when that happens should let those 4 to 5 programs dictate what happens like the last go around.

UConn would join the BE in basketball and go indy in football in a heartbeat if that were to happen. They have always been unhappy with their basketball in the AAC, and their football is going nowhere on the field. The BE has at least considered that offer, and there appears to be some support by UConn sportswriters for that scenario even if the AAC stays as is. A lot will depend on the upcoming AAC tv contract as well.

http://adimeback.com/firing-kevin-ollie-...t-problem/

(02-20-2018 08:22 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That would leave Tulane, Tulsa, UConn, Temple and possibly ECU, Navy or SMU without a home. I guess WSU can go back to the MVC if they would have them then.

At that time would CUSA or the Sun Belt drop some dead weight for ECU, Navy or UConn. Tulane, Tulsa and Temple can die on the vine if they like. But no way should any programs when that happens should let those 4 to 5 programs dictate what happens like the last go around.

UConn would join the BE in basketball and go indy in football in a heartbeat if that were to happen. They have always been unhappy with their basketball in the AAC, and their football is going nowhere on the field. The BE has at least considered that offer, and there appears to be some support by UConn sportswriters for that scenario even if the AAC stays as is. A lot will depend on the upcoming AAC tv contract as well.

http://adimeback.com/firing-kevin-ollie-...t-problem/

If one more round of realignment is really and truly still in the cards, once it ever happens, every G5 school that misses the cut will then be a part of a geographically based, total reorganization of the SBC, CUSA, and the remnants of the AAC.

The way I see it going down, Memphis, UH, UCF, and USF will all make the leap to the Big 12. The rest of us will have to duke it out to see where we all fall into the mix.

(02-21-2018 05:52 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 08:22 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That would leave Tulane, Tulsa, UConn, Temple and possibly ECU, Navy or SMU without a home. I guess WSU can go back to the MVC if they would have them then.

At that time would CUSA or the Sun Belt drop some dead weight for ECU, Navy or UConn. Tulane, Tulsa and Temple can die on the vine if they like. But no way should any programs when that happens should let those 4 to 5 programs dictate what happens like the last go around.

UConn would join the BE in basketball and go indy in football in a heartbeat if that were to happen. They have always been unhappy with their basketball in the AAC, and their football is going nowhere on the field. The BE has at least considered that offer, and there appears to be some support by UConn sportswriters for that scenario even if the AAC stays as is. A lot will depend on the upcoming AAC tv contract as well.

http://adimeback.com/firing-kevin-ollie-...t-problem/

If one more round of realignment is really and truly still in the cards, once it ever happens, every G5 school that misses the cut will then be a part of a geographically based, total reorganization of the SBC, CUSA, and the remnants of the AAC.

The way I see it going down, Memphis, UH, UCF, and USF will all make the leap to the Big 12. The rest of us will have to duke it out to see where we all fall into the mix.

The new CUSA will ultimately be the Texas schools, NMSU Tulsa and possibly LaTech and ULL, the SBC will be all the other SE schools,a Ned the new AAC will be east coast NE schools.

And there will be another round of FCS move ups as well. So be prepared for that.

(02-20-2018 08:22 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That would leave Tulane, Tulsa, UConn, Temple and possibly ECU, Navy or SMU without a home. I guess WSU can go back to the MVC if they would have them then.

At that time would CUSA or the Sun Belt drop some dead weight for ECU, Navy or UConn. Tulane, Tulsa and Temple can die on the vine if they like. But no way should any programs when that happens should let those 4 to 5 programs dictate what happens like the last go around.

UConn would join the BE in basketball and go indy in football in a heartbeat if that were to happen. They have always been unhappy with their basketball in the AAC, and their football is going nowhere on the field. The BE has at least considered that offer, and there appears to be some support by UConn sportswriters for that scenario even if the AAC stays as is. A lot will depend on the upcoming AAC tv contract as well.

http://adimeback.com/firing-kevin-ollie-...t-problem/

I think UConn may be the single most miserable school post-early-2010's realignment. That write-up was intriguing but depressing.

I wonder if UConn regrets going FBS. If they had remained FCS, they would be in the Big East now.

Found this supposed tip quite entertaining lol...

https://twitter.com/shabbythegreek/statu...1485836288

(02-22-2018 10:44 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Found this supposed tip quite entertaining lol...

https://twitter.com/shabbythegreek/statu...1485836288

Fakest news in the world

(02-22-2018 10:32 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I wonder if UConn regrets going FBS. If they had remained FCS, they would be in the Big East now.

From what I gather from their fans on the aac board and elsewhere, the BE might consider them for bball only. They put a lot of money into football, expanding their stadium and so on, and went to the Fiesta Bowl a few years back. So I don't think they'll drop it.

The aac isn't going to have them as football only, so if they keep football if and when they might go to the BE they could park football maybe in the MAC or go indy.

Problem with that is that some Uconn fans still hold out hope for the Big10, or Big12, and if they downgrade football that will never happen.

As a poster said above, they really got screwed in realignment. They lost all of their regional rivals--St. Johns, Villanova, Georgetown, Syracuse, Providence, etc., and fans don't see much in playing Tulsa or Memphis. They should've gone to the ACC. Louisville should be in the Big12.

Cotton knows what's up. If all those schools got taken by the Big 12 and UCONN got left behind, there's a 100% chance that UCONN would join the Big East in non-football sports. Football would go Independent until it was no longer feasible, eventually dropping back down to FCS.

(02-22-2018 06:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Cotton knows what's up. If all those schools got taken by the Big 12 and UCONN got left behind, there's a 100% chance that UCONN would join the Big East in non-football sports. Football would go Independent until it was no longer feasible, eventually dropping back down to FCS.

Honestly, if UMass can survive as an Indy, UConn could. UMass and Army are nearby. I think they could easily schedule home and homes with teams like Boston College, Rutgers, Maryland, Pitt, and Syracuse. Then fill in with CUSA/MAC/SB G5's along with an FCS game and a pay day game vs a major power every year. They'd be fine. No chance at greatness. No chance at a big bowl. But, thats not all that different from its current state and the program would still be viable for a move to a P5 if the opportunity arose.

(02-20-2018 08:22 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That would leave Tulane, Tulsa, UConn, Temple and possibly ECU, Navy or SMU without a home. I guess WSU can go back to the MVC if they would have them then.

At that time would CUSA or the Sun Belt drop some dead weight for ECU, Navy or UConn. Tulane, Tulsa and Temple can die on the vine if they like. But no way should any programs when that happens should let those 4 to 5 programs dictate what happens like the last go around.

UConn would join the BE in basketball and go indy in football in a heartbeat if that were to happen. They have always been unhappy with their basketball in the AAC, and their football is going nowhere on the field. The BE has at least considered that offer, and there appears to be some support by UConn sportswriters for that scenario even if the AAC stays as is. A lot will depend on the upcoming AAC tv contract as well.

http://adimeback.com/firing-kevin-ollie-...t-problem/

OOO I know that. Seriously if you are a UConn supporter you just have to shake you head when your basketball program has to go to Tulane's Fogelman Arena (says 3600 cap but Steve Cotton (Voice of Marshall) once counted the seat cap and came up with 2782). If it be men or women.

My guess if there is a next "Big Realignment" there will be a few programs either left out of the so called P5 and I seriously think it could be up to 5. And then there are going to be a few more casualties like Idaho that will have to make the decision to either go independent or back to IAA.

My thought is will this ever really reach into the MAC. Almost everyone there is comfortable where they are. Yes Marshall and UCF left in 2004 and Temple later but none of the established MAC schools have been affected. My guess if there was to be movement in the MAC it would be with NIU (MAC 1975-85, 1997-present) or Akron (MAC 1992).

The rest I just don't see ever moving.

(02-19-2018 04:01 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I bet west florida gets the call up before then.

Hopefully along with Kennesaw State.

(02-22-2018 06:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Cotton knows what's up. If all those schools got taken by the Big 12 and UCONN got left behind, there's a 100% chance that UCONN would join the Big East in non-football sports. Football would go Independent until it was no longer feasible, eventually dropping back down to FCS.

Why not UCONN to the ACC?

(02-26-2018 11:01 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 06:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Cotton knows what's up. If all those schools got taken by the Big 12 and UCONN got left behind, there's a 100% chance that UCONN would join the Big East in non-football sports. Football would go Independent until it was no longer feasible, eventually dropping back down to FCS.

Why not UCONN to the ACC?

The ACC has to be interested. UConn's best hope to get into the ACC would be if (and it's a massive IF since no one knows how or why they'd be convinced to do it) Notre Dame had to join the ACC for football. The ACC would then need a 16th member. Problem for UConn is that the ACC, even in that situation, may not at that point prefer UConn as #16. Maybe they would want Cincinnati. Maybe Navy for football only. Maybe they would want UCF or USF. Maybe they'd try to get a Big 12 team in the event the Big 12 breaks up.

Whether the ACC regrets having taken Louisville instead of UConn doesn't matter. There's no reversing that decision.

(02-24-2018 11:21 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 08:22 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That would leave Tulane, Tulsa, UConn, Temple and possibly ECU, Navy or SMU without a home. I guess WSU can go back to the MVC if they would have them then.

At that time would CUSA or the Sun Belt drop some dead weight for ECU, Navy or UConn. Tulane, Tulsa and Temple can die on the vine if they like. But no way should any programs when that happens should let those 4 to 5 programs dictate what happens like the last go around.

UConn would join the BE in basketball and go indy in football in a heartbeat if that were to happen. They have always been unhappy with their basketball in the AAC, and their football is going nowhere on the field. The BE has at least considered that offer, and there appears to be some support by UConn sportswriters for that scenario even if the AAC stays as is. A lot will depend on the upcoming AAC tv contract as well.

http://adimeback.com/firing-kevin-ollie-...t-problem/

OOO I know that. Seriously if you are a UConn supporter you just have to shake you head when your basketball program has to go to Tulane's Fogelman Arena (says 3600 cap but Steve Cotton (Voice of Marshall) once counted the seat cap and came up with 2782). If it be men or women.

My guess if there is a next "Big Realignment" there will be a few programs either left out of the so called P5 and I seriously think it could be up to 5. And then there are going to be a few more casualties like Idaho that will have to make the decision to either go independent or back to IAA.

My thought is will this ever really reach into the MAC. Almost everyone there is comfortable where they are. Yes Marshall and UCF left in 2004 and Temple later but none of the established MAC schools have been affected. My guess if there was to be movement in the MAC it would be with NIU (MAC 1975-85, 1997-present) or Akron (MAC 1992).

The rest I just don't see ever moving.

Yeah, in a lot of ways, the MAC has seen the least change since the 90's of any of the now 32 D1 leagues besides the Ivy League. Marshall came and went. UCF came and went very fast. Same for Temple. Same for UMass. The core has remained unchanged.

(02-26-2018 01:02 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 11:01 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 06:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Cotton knows what's up. If all those schools got taken by the Big 12 and UCONN got left behind, there's a 100% chance that UCONN would join the Big East in non-football sports. Football would go Independent until it was no longer feasible, eventually dropping back down to FCS.

Why not UCONN to the ACC?

The ACC has to be interested. UConn's best hope to get into the ACC would be if (and it's a massive IF since no one knows how or why they'd be convinced to do it) Notre Dame had to join the ACC for football. The ACC would then need a 16th member. Problem for UConn is that the ACC, even in that situation, may not at that point prefer UConn as #16. Maybe they would want Cincinnati. Maybe Navy for football only. Maybe they would want UCF or USF. Maybe they'd try to get a Big 12 team in the event the Big 12 breaks up.

Whether the ACC regrets having taken Louisville instead of UConn doesn't matter. There's no reversing that decision.

When this shakes out, ND and UCONN will be in the ACC. Unless......

The Big Ten and ND make up and ND receives an invite. Does UCONN follow ND to the Big Ten? ND or Indiana would be in the Big Ten West.

(02-26-2018 01:39 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 01:02 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 11:01 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 06:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Cotton knows what's up. If all those schools got taken by the Big 12 and UCONN got left behind, there's a 100% chance that UCONN would join the Big East in non-football sports. Football would go Independent until it was no longer feasible, eventually dropping back down to FCS.

Why not UCONN to the ACC?

The ACC has to be interested. UConn's best hope to get into the ACC would be if (and it's a massive IF since no one knows how or why they'd be convinced to do it) Notre Dame had to join the ACC for football. The ACC would then need a 16th member. Problem for UConn is that the ACC, even in that situation, may not at that point prefer UConn as #16. Maybe they would want Cincinnati. Maybe Navy for football only. Maybe they would want UCF or USF. Maybe they'd try to get a Big 12 team in the event the Big 12 breaks up.

Whether the ACC regrets having taken Louisville instead of UConn doesn't matter. There's no reversing that decision.

When this shakes out, ND and UCONN will be in the ACC. Unless......

The Big Ten and ND make up and ND receives an invite. Does UCONN follow ND to the Big Ten? ND or Indiana would be in the Big Ten West.

As bad as UCONN Football currently is right now, no P5 league in their right mind would take them. The P5 leagues make enough off TV rights alone that they don't have to have another top shelf basketball program.

Now, if they improve, who knows?