(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Well, in that case, Tulane's starting PG was a late-decision DNP. He averages 10 ppg, so he was missed. Had Vegas been aware of the DNP, Memphis would have been favored.
So, there's that.
Oh, yeah, they were down Blake Paul, too. Leading shot blocker and backup center. Out with the flu. Had to come in at the very end of the 1st half b/c of foul trouble but couldn't play after that.
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(02-17-2018 06:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: This is a team that can win 3 of their last 4 and finish the regular season with 19 wins. If they can pick up a couple in the tournament and end up 21-13, then Tubby would have something to sell and build upon.
GTG!
Tubby hasn't attempted to sell anything in the two years he's been here. He doesn't recruit, he doesn't market the program, and he doesn't honestly believe in the Memphis program (i.e. "This isn't the Memphis of ten years ago").
The last few wins are encouraging. And if Tubby's history tells us anything, it's that he does a good job of getting under-recruited players to win ~2/3 of their games. I anticipate this is the road that we'll continue to go down.
2/3 of their non conf games while losing 2/3 of his conf games
(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
The fact that Tulane is EVER favored over Memphis should be eye popping.
Yep, that's the rub. Tiger1983's comment is accurate as well.
(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
We were projected to lose to TULANE...We overachieved based on our history this year...But would you consider that overachieving based on our complete history.
Let me put it to you this way...If I were to offer you a bet of $1000 that when we play Tulane if 5 years that Tulane would win would you take that bet?
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(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
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And not for nothing but I got the game at Memphis -1 about 30mins prior to tip off. Also if you understand betting, if both teams are evenly matched the Home get will be favored due to being at home. In football it’s usually a 3 point sway. While in college basketball the Home team gets between 3-4pts. So yes Memphis opened as the underdog but not off of talent.
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(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Well, in that case, Tulane's starting PG was a late-decision DNP. He averages 10 ppg, so he was missed. Had Vegas been aware of the DNP, Memphis would have been favored.
So, there's that.
Oh, yeah, they were down Blake Paul, too. Leading shot blocker and backup center. Out with the flu. Had to come in at the very end of the 1st half b/c of foul trouble but couldn't play after that.
(02-17-2018 06:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: This is a team that can win 3 of their last 4 and finish the regular season with 19 wins. If they can pick up a couple in the tournament and end up 21-13, then Tubby would have something to sell and build upon.
GTG!
Tubby hasn't attempted to sell anything in the two years he's been here. He doesn't recruit, he doesn't market the program, and he doesn't honestly believe in the Memphis program (i.e. "This isn't the Memphis of ten years ago").
The last few wins are encouraging. And if Tubby's history tells us anything, it's that he does a good job of getting under-recruited players to win ~2/3 of their games. I anticipate this is the road that we'll continue to go down.
2/3 of their non conf games while losing 2/3 of his conf games
(02-18-2018 08:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I celebrate every win (there is no such thing as an “ugly” victory). Howver, beating Tulane is the expected result for a Tiger coach unless one is willing to lower the bar just for Tubby.
Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
(02-18-2018 10:27 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote: And not for nothing but I got the game at Memphis -1 about 30mins prior to tip off. Also if you understand betting, if both teams are evenly matched the Home get will be favored due to being at home. In football it’s usually a 3 point sway. While in college basketball the Home team gets between 3-4pts. So yes Memphis opened as the underdog but not off of talent.
(02-18-2018 08:54 AM)Atlanta Wrote: Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
(02-18-2018 09:02 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
Got it. I have duly noted that you think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Since you repeatedly report Kenpom & other sources twice weekly to state the Memphis conference standing, surely you trust the predicted line that indicated Tulane was favored. Rather inconsistent & contradictory, then, to assume Memphis will or should beat Tulane, right?
(02-18-2018 08:54 AM)Atlanta Wrote: Still passive-aggressive in your criticism of the coach, does it ever get old for you? Maybe UH should fire their coach too.
Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
You refuse to consider 13 years with very similar results under 4 very different conditions as a valid sample size, but you consider it valid to use isolated results against Tulane.
(02-18-2018 09:09 AM)Atlanta Wrote: Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
Got it. I have duly noted that you think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Since you repeatedly report Kenpom & other sources twice weekly to state the Memphis conference standing, surely you trust the predicted line that indicated Tulane was favored. Rather inconsistent & contradictory, then, to assume Memphis will or should beat Tulane, right?
If you weren't trying to contort your brain into making some sort of weird point, the simple answer is that Memphis should be expected to beat Tulane every single time, regardless of the state of the program.
Just in case you are still confused and this hasn't registered, Memphis should expect to beat Tulane every single time we play them no matter what. Any scenario where Tulane is ranked higher than us in any way or expected to beat us demonstrates perfectly how badly Tubby has screwed us...
To everyone but you and a few sheeple.
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(02-18-2018 09:09 AM)Atlanta Wrote: Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
Got it. I have duly noted that you think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Since you repeatedly report Kenpom & other sources twice weekly to state the Memphis conference standing, surely you trust the predicted line that indicated Tulane was favored. Rather inconsistent & contradictory, then, to assume Memphis will or should beat Tulane, right?
I understand. You think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
(02-18-2018 09:02 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Please kindly show the inaccuracy of my comment.
Tulane was favored in yesterday's game. Teams don't win or lose based upon some opinion of historical results but instead based upon the teams on the floor.
Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
You refuse to consider 13 years with very similar results under 4 very different conditions as a valid sample size, but you consider it valid to use isolated results against Tulane.
How does that make any sense?
His or her response does not surprise me, but it is enlightening nevertheless. It provides a window into the thought process of good Tiger fans sharing his or her viewpoint. I do not condemn their opinions, although I find it interesting.
(02-18-2018 09:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Ok, let’s deconstruct:
1. Should beating Tulane be the expected result for a Tiger coach? If no, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
2. Should we lower the bar for Tubby? If yes, then you dispute the accuracy of my comment.
Moveover, the reason we were underdogs is due to the quality of the team constructed by Tubby. Finally, we should completely discount the effect on the game outcome due to opposition injuries - a frequent occurance this season.
Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
Got it. I have duly noted that you think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Since you repeatedly report Kenpom & other sources twice weekly to state the Memphis conference standing, surely you trust the predicted line that indicated Tulane was favored. Rather inconsistent & contradictory, then, to assume Memphis will or should beat Tulane, right?
I understand. You think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Tubby hasn’t lost to Tulane. Last loss was Pastner’s 2016 loss. So what’s your point?
(02-19-2018 05:38 PM)bcspiker Wrote: Historically, didn't the previous 5 coaches all lose to Tulane? So again, wouldn't that mean that Tubby is overachieving based on the spectrum of your question?
Got it. I have duly noted that you think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Since you repeatedly report Kenpom & other sources twice weekly to state the Memphis conference standing, surely you trust the predicted line that indicated Tulane was favored. Rather inconsistent & contradictory, then, to assume Memphis will or should beat Tulane, right?
I understand. You think my statement is inaccurate because beating Tulane should not be the expected result for a Tiger coach.
Tubby hasn’t lost to Tulane. Last loss was Pastner’s 2016 loss. So what’s your point?
My point is I think it is accurate stating that beating Tulane should be the expected result for a Tiger coach. I find it fascinating that anyone would dispute it. I also sense that some good Tiger fans are ok with lowering the bar just for Tubby which I find perplexing.
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