but I'm tired of ignoring the 1000lb elephant in the room.

As liberal idiots once again exploit the latest school shooting to push their gun confiscation agenda, I can't help but be reminded of something I have been thinking for a long time.

Guns are clearly not the problem, but I am starting to see a connection between violence in the media and the gradual uptick in mass shootings across the country. Granted, games like Gears of War won't cause most people to shoot up a school. Most people can separate fantasy from reality. However, games like that are a direct reflection of the sickness permeating our culture. We glorify death an immorality. We advertise it to our children. As adults, we ignore it. On the right individual, that can be a strong catalyst. Couple that with left-wing attacks on morality and societal norms and you have a tinderbox.

There is a reason we didn't have school shootings in the 1950s, and guns were a lot more accessible in that era.

I think the problems with information sharing created by HIPAA are a huge part of the problem. I'd be interested in the incidence of shootings before and after HIPAA was passed.

2/3 of the shooting deaths in the US are suicides, and I have read that 2/3 of the rest are gang related. It's pretty easy where we need to look, and banning "assault weapons" is not it.

I do agree with one thing. It's time for conservatives to take the ball and run with it on this issue. Do some things that will actually cut down the number of gun deaths. If this keeps going without that, at some point there will be public consensus for some truly draconian measures.

(02-15-2018 11:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think the problems with information sharing created by HIPAA are a huge part of the problem. I'd be interested in the incidence of shootings before and after HIPAA was passed.

2/3 of the shooting deaths in the US are suicides, and I have read that 2/3 of the rest are gang related. It's pretty easy where we need to look, and banning "assault weapons" is not it.

I do agree with one thing. It's time for conservatives to take the ball and run with it on this issue. Do some things that will actually cut down the number of gun deaths. If this keeps going without that, at some point there will be public consensus for some truly draconian measures.

Same here.

FWIW going by the 20 deadliest list (22 entries) on Wikipedia 15 of the 22 occurred after the HIPPA Act was signed into law in 1996.

Could be coincidence but like you I'd be interested in seeing the full data.

I just don't see this as a mental health issue. I think HIPPAA doesn't even approach the real cause. This is a direct reflection of our society. We promote violence, we promote division, we promote narcissism, we promote any agenda that is against the family unit. We promote racism and class warfare in our public schools. We ban Christian speakers at public Universities, but approve "Sex Carnivals" at those same Universities. Our society is saturated with immorality and has become desensitized to evil. A part of me thinks this is purposeful. Since Obama took office, there has been a strong anti American force working in the background. I think these shootings are an intended result. One major obstacle for people like George Soros and the globalist movement is the 2nd Amendment. I think it's all a much bigger plot to unravel us at the seams. As conservatives, I think we need to be looking at the bigger picture and become a little less complacent. We are fighting for the very survival of our society.

Dude we're broken in the moral department. There's no doubt. We live in a different world. The new guys we're hiring out of college that are a mere 10 yrs younger than me have a tough time believing the way I was raised. We're not talking from 50-20, we're talking I'm 36 and these guys are 26 and younger.

We passed a ban on “Assault weapons” in the 1990s. It did not cause any significant impact on mass shootings. Columbine happened while it was in effect. It expired in the early 2000s. Since then, mass killings have spiked. What changed? Well, for one, HIPAA. I’m not sure what else happened to cause the difference. Any other ideas?

(02-16-2018 03:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  We passed a ban on “Assault weapons” in the 1990s. It did not cause any significant impact on mass shootings. Columbine happened while it was in effect. It expired in the early 2000s. Since then, mass killings have spiked. What changed? Well, for one, HIPAA. I’m not sure what else happened to cause the difference. Any other ideas?

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(02-16-2018 03:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  We passed a ban on “Assault weapons” in the 1990s. It did not cause any significant impact on mass shootings. Columbine happened while it was in effect. It expired in the early 2000s. Since then, mass killings have spiked. What changed? Well, for one, HIPAA. I’m not sure what else happened to cause the difference. Any other ideas?

Here'w what changed dude.



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Remember this.

The LEFT’S TRUE OBJECTIVE is not “reasonable” gun control or to stop gun violence. It is to disarm the individual so they can then use force & coercion in bending us to the will of the federal government. Founders knew that. People were suspicious of a powerful central government.

and like you rightfully pointed out, they will create an environment that has people begging them to take away their constitutional rights.

If you have this full episode of P&T on demand, I encourage you to watch the whole thing...but here's a snippet.

(02-16-2018 03:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  We passed a ban on “Assault weapons” in the 1990s. It did not cause any significant impact on mass shootings.

Mass shootings dropped during the assault weapons ban, and went back up as soon as it expired.



In the 11 years after the assault weapons ban expired, we had 46 mass shootings per year from 2005 to 2015, or 4.18 mass shootings per year. That’s more than 2.61 times as many mass shootings as when we had the assault weapons ban.

https://www.factcheck.org/2013/02/did-th...-ban-work/

The study found “clear indications that the use of assault weapons in crime did decline after the ban went into effect” and that assault weapons were becoming rarer as the years passed (this is the part of the study Feinstein seized on). But, he said, the reduction in the use of assault weapons was “offset through at least the late 1990s by steady or rising use of other semi-automatics equipped with large-capacity magazines.”

So yes, the assault weapons ban worked, but large capacity magazines came into the picture & started eating away at the reduction. The NRA talking point is that gun CRIME didn't change much, which would be accurate, since such a small percentage of crimes are committed with these types of guns.

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(02-16-2018 03:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  We passed a ban on “Assault weapons” in the 1990s. It did not cause any significant impact on mass shootings. Columbine happened while it was in effect. It expired in the early 2000s. Since then, mass killings have spiked. What changed? Well, for one, HIPAA. I’m not sure what else happened to cause the difference. Any other ideas?

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