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This guy is creepy AF.

Also, who could possibly drum up the motivation to study this? This garbage should be reserved for the far margins of society, not our best public universities.
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(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 06:25 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The need for anything like this makes me question where we are going as a society.

I think this is likely being given for the benefit of students in the medical profession who would be tasked with dealing with such behavior in people.

We can wish it away all we like, but it does exist and needs to be dealt with, right?

The creep is an Assistant Professor of Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at Emory University. He is not a doctor and this is not a talk for medical students. It is pure garbage.
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(02-13-2018 09:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 06:25 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The need for anything like this makes me question where we are going as a society.

I think this is likely being given for the benefit of students in the medical profession who would be tasked with dealing with such behavior in people.

We can wish it away all we like, but it does exist and needs to be dealt with, right?

And I think you're reaching and know it. Why? Is it that difficult for you to simply agree that there's something majorly wrong with a workshop like this?

Because it's being given at an educational institution. One with impeccable credentials in the medical field. Again, none of us have the slightest idea what the forum covered...mainly because we're not qualified in any shape or form to understand it.

So, without further information, can you agree that this "outrage" is being manufactured by groups like Breitbart and Stormfront (two of the many sites pushing this) to further divide us?

Finally, unless I/we know this workshop was not educational, but rather some elaborate scheme to push an agenda, etc. I'm not going to impugn it as something it isn't. Sorry.
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True colors showing in this thread
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(02-13-2018 10:48 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  True colors showing in this thread

Indeed. Sorry but to me if it looks like a duck...
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(02-13-2018 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 06:25 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The need for anything like this makes me question where we are going as a society.

I think this is likely being given for the benefit of students in the medical profession who would be tasked with dealing with such behavior in people.

We can wish it away all we like, but it does exist and needs to be dealt with, right?

And I think you're reaching and know it. Why? Is it that difficult for you to simply agree that there's something majorly wrong with a workshop like this?

Because it's being given at an educational institution. One with impeccable credentials in the medical field. Again, none of us have the slightest idea what the forum covered...mainly because we're not qualified in any shape or form to understand it.

So, without further information, can you agree that this "outrage" is being manufactured by groups like Breitbart and Stormfront (two of the many sites pushing this) to further divide us?

Finally, unless I/we know this workshop was not educational, but rather some elaborate scheme to push an agenda, etc. I'm not going to impugn it as something it isn't. Sorry.

Nope, I firmly believe this is agenda driven in an effort to somehow normalize deviant behaviors. Hell, it worked for the gays.
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(02-13-2018 10:48 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  True colors showing in this thread

And those are?????

Don't fling poo without backing it up.
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(02-13-2018 10:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 06:25 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The need for anything like this makes me question where we are going as a society.

I think this is likely being given for the benefit of students in the medical profession who would be tasked with dealing with such behavior in people.

We can wish it away all we like, but it does exist and needs to be dealt with, right?

And I think you're reaching and know it. Why? Is it that difficult for you to simply agree that there's something majorly wrong with a workshop like this?

Because it's being given at an educational institution. One with impeccable credentials in the medical field. Again, none of us have the slightest idea what the forum covered...mainly because we're not qualified in any shape or form to understand it.

So, without further information, can you agree that this "outrage" is being manufactured by groups like Breitbart and Stormfront (two of the many sites pushing this) to further divide us?

Finally, unless I/we know this workshop was not educational, but rather some elaborate scheme to push an agenda, etc. I'm not going to impugn it as something it isn't. Sorry.

Nope, I firmly believe this is agenda driven in an effort to somehow normalize deviant behaviors. Hell, it worked for the gays.

With no real knowledge of the issue, the speaker, the attendees, nor the class material presented? Gotcha.
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(02-13-2018 09:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I'm for free speech, but how in the world can a "presentation" like that be legal? I would think the presenter is a pedophile or knows people who are and defends/conceals their disgusting practice.

So, we should not ever talk about or try to educate people to deal with the types of behaviors, no matter how disgusting, in our fellow man? Really?

Pedophilia is either a crime or a mental disorder, in either case it should not be presented in academic settings as anything else.
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(02-13-2018 07:32 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I'm for free speech, but how in the world can a "presentation" like that be legal? I would think the presenter is a pedophile or knows people who are and defends/conceals their disgusting practice.

So, we should not ever talk about or try to educate people to deal with the types of behaviors, no matter how disgusting, in our fellow man? Really?

Pedophilia is either a crime or a mental disorder, in either case it should not be presented in academic settings as anything else.

And we already have the cure for it

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(02-13-2018 12:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 10:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I think this is likely being given for the benefit of students in the medical profession who would be tasked with dealing with such behavior in people.

We can wish it away all we like, but it does exist and needs to be dealt with, right?

And I think you're reaching and know it. Why? Is it that difficult for you to simply agree that there's something majorly wrong with a workshop like this?

Because it's being given at an educational institution. One with impeccable credentials in the medical field. Again, none of us have the slightest idea what the forum covered...mainly because we're not qualified in any shape or form to understand it.

So, without further information, can you agree that this "outrage" is being manufactured by groups like Breitbart and Stormfront (two of the many sites pushing this) to further divide us?

Finally, unless I/we know this workshop was not educational, but rather some elaborate scheme to push an agenda, etc. I'm not going to impugn it as something it isn't. Sorry.

Nope, I firmly believe this is agenda driven in an effort to somehow normalize deviant behaviors. Hell, it worked for the gays.

With no real knowledge of the issue, the speaker, the attendees, nor the class material presented? Gotcha.
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When I posted this thread I honestly didn't think anyone here would even give the appearance of trying to defend this sick, perverted behavior. Wrong again.
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(02-12-2018 03:42 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  [Image: 2h86dm1.jpg]

Academia getting sicker every day.

Quote:A presentation at the University of Michigan will deal with the subject of pederasty, or sex between men and boys, with the professor giving the speech apparently hoping to “dignify and redeem” what he calls “intergenerational modern pederastic relationships.”

The workshop, scheduled for today and titled “Pederastic Kinship: Deidealizing Queer Studies,” will be presented by Kadji Amin, assistant professor of Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies at Emory University, according to an event listing on the University of Michigan’s website.

Hosted by the university’s Doing Queer Studies Now “interdisciplinary workshop,” it will explore the “kinship form” of “modern pederasty.”

“To identify a relational form as ‘queer kinship’ is to implicitly dignify and redeem it,” the event listing reads. “What are the limits of such redemption? This talk tests the boundaries of the discourse of queer family by investigating a sexually, ethically, and politically dubious kinship form: namely, modern pederasty.”

Amin did not return two emails from The College Fix seeking clarification on his presentation. Deboleena Roy, chair of Emory’s Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies Department, similarly did not return a request for comment; nor did Emory spokeswoman Megan McRainey.

Glbtq.com, billed as “the world’s largest encyclopedia of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and queer culture,” defines pederasty as an “erotic relationship between an adult male and a boy, generally one between the ages of twelve and seventeen.” It does not list a definition of pedophilia.

Merriam-Webster’s medical dictionary defines pederasty as “anal intercourse especially with a boy as the passive partner.” It defines pedophilia as “sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object.”

The description for Amin’s guest lecture notes that “pederastic kinship is a forgotten and uncomfortable precursor to gay and lesbian ‘chosen’ and nuclear family that restores power and inequality to overly idealized imaginaries of queer kinship.”

Keep Reading here....

First of all, I don't know of anyone that pays attention this stuff in the LGBT community. Maybe I'm some sort of right winger....LOL.

Secondly, I'm going to do some whataboutism here (with a reason - see the last paragraph below). The right wing elected a man who went on national radio to sexualize his own daughter and rallied around Roy Moore.

Is the issue that right wingers have with this presentation (probably to three people) is that it is Gay sex rather than straight sex that is being discussed?
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(02-13-2018 08:53 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  When I posted this thread I honestly didn't think anyone here would even give the appearance of trying to defend this sick, perverted behavior. Wrong again.

Dude...you're not even reading the responses...you're just going with your beliefs and biases.

Nobody is defending the behavior, if there even is any here. Pedophilia is not a crime until you actually abuse someone. What we're defending is the right to free speech...and more importantly, the right of educators and medical students, etc. to examine and learn about this behavior to be able to treat individuals with such issues.

One would think since you despise this behavior and mental state so much that you'd be a champion of those trying to find out how to actually deal with it.
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(02-13-2018 07:32 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I'm for free speech, but how in the world can a "presentation" like that be legal? I would think the presenter is a pedophile or knows people who are and defends/conceals their disgusting practice.

So, we should not ever talk about or try to educate people to deal with the types of behaviors, no matter how disgusting, in our fellow man? Really?

Pedophilia is either a crime or a mental disorder, in either case it should not be presented in academic settings as anything else.

So...crimes and mental disorders should never be presented in an academic setting? How in the hell do you then train or educate anyone in the criminal justice and medical fields tasked in dealing with such issues? 01-wingedeagle
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(02-13-2018 08:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 07:32 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Pedophilia is either a crime or a mental disorder, in either case it should not be presented in academic settings as anything else.

And we already have the cure for it

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(02-13-2018 08:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 07:32 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I'm for free speech, but how in the world can a "presentation" like that be legal? I would think the presenter is a pedophile or knows people who are and defends/conceals their disgusting practice.

So, we should not ever talk about or try to educate people to deal with the types of behaviors, no matter how disgusting, in our fellow man? Really?

Pedophilia is either a crime or a mental disorder, in either case it should not be presented in academic settings as anything else.

And we already have the cure for it

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(02-13-2018 08:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 03:42 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  [Image: 2h86dm1.jpg]

Academia getting sicker every day.

Quote:A presentation at the University of Michigan will deal with the subject of pederasty, or sex between men and boys, with the professor giving the speech apparently hoping to “dignify and redeem” what he calls “intergenerational modern pederastic relationships.”

The workshop, scheduled for today and titled “Pederastic Kinship: Deidealizing Queer Studies,” will be presented by Kadji Amin, assistant professor of Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies at Emory University, according to an event listing on the University of Michigan’s website.

Hosted by the university’s Doing Queer Studies Now “interdisciplinary workshop,” it will explore the “kinship form” of “modern pederasty.”

“To identify a relational form as ‘queer kinship’ is to implicitly dignify and redeem it,” the event listing reads. “What are the limits of such redemption? This talk tests the boundaries of the discourse of queer family by investigating a sexually, ethically, and politically dubious kinship form: namely, modern pederasty.”

Amin did not return two emails from The College Fix seeking clarification on his presentation. Deboleena Roy, chair of Emory’s Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies Department, similarly did not return a request for comment; nor did Emory spokeswoman Megan McRainey.

Glbtq.com, billed as “the world’s largest encyclopedia of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and queer culture,” defines pederasty as an “erotic relationship between an adult male and a boy, generally one between the ages of twelve and seventeen.” It does not list a definition of pedophilia.

Merriam-Webster’s medical dictionary defines pederasty as “anal intercourse especially with a boy as the passive partner.” It defines pedophilia as “sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object.”

The description for Amin’s guest lecture notes that “pederastic kinship is a forgotten and uncomfortable precursor to gay and lesbian ‘chosen’ and nuclear family that restores power and inequality to overly idealized imaginaries of queer kinship.”

Keep Reading here....

First of all, I don't know of anyone that pays attention this stuff in the LGBT community. Maybe I'm some sort of right winger....LOL.

Secondly, I'm going to do some whataboutism here (with a reason - see the last paragraph below). The right wing elected a man who went on national radio to sexualize his own daughter and rallied around Roy Moore.

Is the issue that right wingers have with this presentation (probably to three people) is that it is Gay sex rather than straight sex that is being discussed?

That you have to ask that question is all I need to conclude that you either support pedophilia or are just incredibly naive. The issue being discussed is gay sex with young, under age boys, or did you choose to just ignore that little nugget?
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(02-14-2018 09:56 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 08:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 03:42 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  [Image: 2h86dm1.jpg]

Academia getting sicker every day.

Quote:A presentation at the University of Michigan will deal with the subject of pederasty, or sex between men and boys, with the professor giving the speech apparently hoping to “dignify and redeem” what he calls “intergenerational modern pederastic relationships.”

The workshop, scheduled for today and titled “Pederastic Kinship: Deidealizing Queer Studies,” will be presented by Kadji Amin, assistant professor of Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies at Emory University, according to an event listing on the University of Michigan’s website.

Hosted by the university’s Doing Queer Studies Now “interdisciplinary workshop,” it will explore the “kinship form” of “modern pederasty.”

“To identify a relational form as ‘queer kinship’ is to implicitly dignify and redeem it,” the event listing reads. “What are the limits of such redemption? This talk tests the boundaries of the discourse of queer family by investigating a sexually, ethically, and politically dubious kinship form: namely, modern pederasty.”

Amin did not return two emails from The College Fix seeking clarification on his presentation. Deboleena Roy, chair of Emory’s Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies Department, similarly did not return a request for comment; nor did Emory spokeswoman Megan McRainey.

Glbtq.com, billed as “the world’s largest encyclopedia of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and queer culture,” defines pederasty as an “erotic relationship between an adult male and a boy, generally one between the ages of twelve and seventeen.” It does not list a definition of pedophilia.

Merriam-Webster’s medical dictionary defines pederasty as “anal intercourse especially with a boy as the passive partner.” It defines pedophilia as “sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object.”

The description for Amin’s guest lecture notes that “pederastic kinship is a forgotten and uncomfortable precursor to gay and lesbian ‘chosen’ and nuclear family that restores power and inequality to overly idealized imaginaries of queer kinship.”

Keep Reading here....

First of all, I don't know of anyone that pays attention this stuff in the LGBT community. Maybe I'm some sort of right winger....LOL.

Secondly, I'm going to do some whataboutism here (with a reason - see the last paragraph below). The right wing elected a man who went on national radio to sexualize his own daughter and rallied around Roy Moore.

Is the issue that right wingers have with this presentation (probably to three people) is that it is Gay sex rather than straight sex that is being discussed?

That you have to ask that question is all I need to conclude that you either support pedophilia or are just incredibly naive. The issue being discussed is gay sex with young, under age boys, or did you choose to just ignore that little nugget?

I think I'm more aware of what out Gay men do than you are. Unless you are not telling me something.

No one pays much attention to the Gender studies folks. Sometimes they come up with something good, such as destigmatizing Trans persons, but a lot of it is just way out there.

And I'll say it right here. The presenter appears to be the moral equivalent of Donald Trump, which would be deplorable. I don't see much difference between the two.

Do you think that DJT's sexualization of his own daughter and open support for Roy Moore is somehow less repugnant simply because its not Gay sex?
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(02-14-2018 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Do you think that DJT's sexualization of his own daughter and open support for Roy Moore is somehow less repugnant simply because its not Gay sex?

I think it's repugnant regardless, and I don't think they are handling it very well.
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