Lol, is Bourne reviled? Maybe by ignorant people who only care about FBS. I don’t know one person who thinks that poorly of JB.

(07-13-2021 04:04 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 11:21 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Driesell did not lose Malisa; Malisa left because of Dillard.

Interesting to think how things could be so different today

funny, Carrier gets credit for building the athletic dept, but fired Lefty, hired Lemish, hired Dillard turned down the A10 and never built an athletic facility from 1985 until his departure in 1998.

Bourne and King have done more in the last 5 years than carrier did in 13 and are reviled.

DM2 - are you saying we should have moved on from Carrier earlier? I guess I am confused.

The good has outweighed the bad by far.

My opinion is Carrier and Bourne have been great for JMU. I wish they had worked together in the same era. I think Carrier's willingness to go for it, and Jeff's ability to execute could of been a hell of a duo.

I think Charlie has done a lot of great things, but I think he, as well as the last two presidents, have been very non aggressive athletics wise when it came to Men's basketball, Baseball, and the move to FBS.

(07-13-2021 02:40 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:27 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:15 PM)CarRamrod Wrote:  Wasn't sure where to put this but felt this thread was appropriate. TYoung announced her retirement after 12 years in the WNBA, one of only 31 WNBA players to post 2600 pts, 1400 rebs, 500 assists, and 300 steals. A damn good Duke.

https://youtu.be/YaDJAj5rmF8

On the women's side Tamera Young was the easy #1. On the Men's side my personal favorite, other than 24, would not of been someone that put up huge stats.

I could almost categorize them about 5 from the men's team for different categories.

Here's my five from different categories.

Linton Townes
Tyrone Shoulders
Steve Blackmon
Charles Fisher
David Dupont

Well this group did more than any others. They are simply the best JMU has ever fielded.

Tyrone and David over Dan Ruland? Really?

(07-13-2021 05:09 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:40 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:27 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:15 PM)CarRamrod Wrote:  Wasn't sure where to put this but felt this thread was appropriate. TYoung announced her retirement after 12 years in the WNBA, one of only 31 WNBA players to post 2600 pts, 1400 rebs, 500 assists, and 300 steals. A damn good Duke.

https://youtu.be/YaDJAj5rmF8

On the women's side Tamera Young was the easy #1. On the Men's side my personal favorite, other than 24, would not of been someone that put up huge stats.

I could almost categorize them about 5 from the men's team for different categories.

Here's my five from different categories.

Linton Townes
Tyrone Shoulders
Steve Blackmon
Charles Fisher
David Dupont

Well this group did more than any others. They are simply the best JMU has ever fielded.

Tyrone and David over Dan Ruland? Really?

Totally forgot about Dan. My bad!

(07-13-2021 05:09 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:40 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:27 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:15 PM)CarRamrod Wrote:  Wasn't sure where to put this but felt this thread was appropriate. TYoung announced her retirement after 12 years in the WNBA, one of only 31 WNBA players to post 2600 pts, 1400 rebs, 500 assists, and 300 steals. A damn good Duke.

https://youtu.be/YaDJAj5rmF8

On the women's side Tamera Young was the easy #1. On the Men's side my personal favorite, other than 24, would not of been someone that put up huge stats.

I could almost categorize them about 5 from the men's team for different categories.

Here's my five from different categories.

Linton Townes
Tyrone Shoulders
Steve Blackmon
Charles Fisher
David Dupont

Well this group did more than any others. They are simply the best JMU has ever fielded.

Tyrone and David over Dan Ruland? Really?

I was thinking the same thing. Dan was far better than Tyrone or Blackmon and Steve was a friend of mine.

If I look at a full four years, Dan would be the top center to play for JMU IMO. If I look at Junior and Senior years only, I would give a slight edge to Clayton Ritter. That guy went from an awkward Freshman to dominating Florida in the NCAA tournament his Senior year.

(07-13-2021 04:05 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Lol, is Bourne reviled? Maybe by ignorant people who only care about FBS. I don’t know one person who thinks that poorly of JB.

huh? r you kidding? do i need to pull up the 1,000 posts on "monitoring", I could site 10 more issues, but wont go to that detail

my fault - i guess he is revered

as I have said, King and Bourne dont get the credit they deserve while Carrier could do no wrong.

(07-13-2021 04:05 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Lol, is Bourne reviled? Maybe by ignorant people who only care about FBS. I don’t know one person who thinks that poorly of JB.

For those that don't like Bourne (and they do exist), you are right: it is due to ignorance. He was never the one that needed convincing to go to FBS. Remember: he was the one that put his neck out and said many years ago we'd be FBS in x amount of months (12-24 if I'm not mistaken). Which is EXACTLY why JMU says very little about FBS: there are zero benefits to talking about it unless it is absolutely going to happen.
The blame should have been on Rose, who said JMU would never be FBS under his watch, and he was right. But since Bourne was the face of the athletic department, he was getting blamed.
For those looking at the big picture, Bourne has done amazing things for JMU athletics. We have one of the most competitive all around programs in the country. He is a great representative of JMU and if you have ever had the chance to speak with him in person, he's a really great guy.
He has absolutely made mistakes, and some big ones (MBB is a HUGE one), but when the ship gets moving in the right direction, very rarely does it take a step backwards.

Yeah, Bourne is pretty great at his job and to top it all off, very approachable and friendly. He may love a good wine & charcuterie plate, but he’s very good at making people feel comfortable around him. I admire that in a leader.