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(03-04-2018 03:42 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 03:38 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I’ll take Jerry Palm’s bracket please:
CBS Bracketology

100% yes.

Nevada would be an interesting matchup. They are a great offensive team and poor defensively, much like Wichita and X.

(03-04-2018 03:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 02:29 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  UC is looking at a first round game against UConn/SMU and a semi final againsy Tulsa/Memphis. Get to the championship game Sunday and I think a two seed is in order. Win all three? Coupled with early losses by Kansas, Duke, Villanova/Xavier? Dare I say it...

It some ways, I may prefer being the best 2 over the worst 1, depending on who we play and where.

don't think a 1 is in question; that ship sailed with our 2 most recent losses. i do think we are set in firmly as a 2 and couldn't be more ******* stoked about it.

go cats!

2 best case

3 worst case

(03-04-2018 08:30 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  2 best case

3 worst case

I actually have UC ahead of every Big Ten team and every SEC team going into Championship Week.

I am rather confident that Michigan State, Ohio State, and Michigan are behind the Bearcats. Purdue has really good computer numbers but they struggled down over the last few weeks. One thing I looked at was their average loss was at 37. Cincinnati's is sitting at 18. Basically UC only lost to teams that are going very highly seeded in the NCAA tournament while Purdue lost to a solid WKU team and a bad Wisconsin team.

Regarding the SEC teams, Cincinnati's number are slightly better across the board.

I am more concerned with Duke and UNC out of the ACC. Duke has superior computer numbers but their average RPI loss is 50. Losing at St. John's and Boston College has to matter and I believe those games could be result in a seed line penalty which keeps them off the 1 line.

UNC has excellent computer numbers and best SOS in the nation. 11 group one wins is offset by overall 9 losses. The home loss to Wofford probably keeps UNC at a three seed unless they do a lot of damage in the ACC tournament.

Kansas has a combined 18 group 1 and group 2 wins, which is a crazy number. Great computer profile but I am once again concerned with their average RPI loss of 59. Getting swept by Oklahoma State hurts. Home losses to Washington and Arizona State are not looking so great at the moment, either does the road loss to Baylor.

Virginia, Villanova, and Xavier are looks for 1 seeds. The next 9 to 13 teams are really tricky to figure out at this point. Does the committee just count quality wins, do advanced metrics matter, what about your average RPI loss.

In my view advanced metrics and average RPI loss are huge in seeding as those factors can tell if a team has chance to be upset by a lower seeded team.

Latest Lunardi Bracketology would be wonderful...

2 facing Iona and winner of Seton Hall and Kansas State in the second with Auburn/Miami in the 3/6 game for the Elite Eight.

(03-04-2018 04:08 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 03:42 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 03:38 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I’ll take Jerry Palm’s bracket please:
CBS Bracketology

100% yes.

Nevada would be an interesting matchup. They are a great offensive team and poor defensively, much like Wichita and X.

I think they'd be shocked by UC's defense personally. I've watched them several times late on Saturday night and they are very good offensively, but they don't defend themselves and they don't play anyone that defends either.

(03-04-2018 04:41 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 03:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 02:29 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  UC is looking at a first round game against UConn/SMU and a semi final againsy Tulsa/Memphis. Get to the championship game Sunday and I think a two seed is in order. Win all three? Coupled with early losses by Kansas, Duke, Villanova/Xavier? Dare I say it...

It some ways, I may prefer being the best 2 over the worst 1, depending on who we play and where.

don't think a 1 is in question; that ship sailed with our 2 most recent losses. i do think we are set in firmly as a 2 and couldn't be more ******* stoked about it.

go cats!

Yeah, we probably could've made it to the 1 Line if we swept Houston, but with that 4th loss on the season we're probably hitting our heads at 6 on the S-Curve.

(03-05-2018 09:28 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Latest Lunardi Bracketology would be wonderful...

2 facing Iona and winner of Seton Hall and Kansas State in the second with Auburn/Miami in the 3/6 game for the Elite Eight.

In Pittsburgh

(03-04-2018 02:29 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  UC is looking at a first round game against UConn/SMU and a semi final againsy Tulsa/Memphis. Get to the championship game Sunday and I think a two seed is in order. Win all three? Coupled with early losses by Kansas, Duke, Villanova/Xavier? Dare I say it...

Do dare

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Good morning, hoops fans. The committee is back at it, continuing with seeding. 28 teams were voted into the field on the initial ballot yesterday, which is a few more than a typical year. A total of 33 remain on the under consideration board. The top two lines have been seeded.

If true we can roll the ball out this week and are already a 2 or never had a shot at it.

(03-08-2018 10:27 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

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Good morning, hoops fans. The committee is back at it, continuing with seeding. 28 teams were voted into the field on the initial ballot yesterday, which is a few more than a typical year. A total of 33 remain on the under consideration board. The top two lines have been seeded.

If true we can roll the ball out this week and are already a 2 or never had a shot at it.

He's replying to comments saying the 1 and 2 seeds aren't set in stone so I don't understand his comment. Why mention "the top two lines have been seeded" if there can still be movement?

(03-09-2018 09:43 AM)dubcat14 Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 10:27 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

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Good morning, hoops fans. The committee is back at it, continuing with seeding. 28 teams were voted into the field on the initial ballot yesterday, which is a few more than a typical year. A total of 33 remain on the under consideration board. The top two lines have been seeded.

If true we can roll the ball out this week and are already a 2 or never had a shot at it.

He's replying to comments saying the 1 and 2 seeds aren't set in stone so I don't understand his comment. Why mention "the top two lines have been seeded" if there can still be movement?

He's either A) backtracking B) indicating that the top seed lines have been temporarily seeded C) has no idea what's going on

(03-09-2018 09:46 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(03-09-2018 09:43 AM)dubcat14 Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 10:27 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

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Good morning, hoops fans. The committee is back at it, continuing with seeding. 28 teams were voted into the field on the initial ballot yesterday, which is a few more than a typical year. A total of 33 remain on the under consideration board. The top two lines have been seeded.

If true we can roll the ball out this week and are already a 2 or never had a shot at it.

He's replying to comments saying the 1 and 2 seeds aren't set in stone so I don't understand his comment. Why mention "the top two lines have been seeded" if there can still be movement?

He's either A) backtracking B) indicating that the top seed lines have been temporarily seeded C) has no idea what's going on

Or D) they've figured out who the Top 8 teams are, but they could be 1's or 2's depending on the results of the conference tourneys.

(03-09-2018 10:06 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-09-2018 09:46 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(03-09-2018 09:43 AM)dubcat14 Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 10:27 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

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Good morning, hoops fans. The committee is back at it, continuing with seeding. 28 teams were voted into the field on the initial ballot yesterday, which is a few more than a typical year. A total of 33 remain on the under consideration board. The top two lines have been seeded.

If true we can roll the ball out this week and are already a 2 or never had a shot at it.

He's replying to comments saying the 1 and 2 seeds aren't set in stone so I don't understand his comment. Why mention "the top two lines have been seeded" if there can still be movement?

He's either A) backtracking B) indicating that the top seed lines have been temporarily seeded C) has no idea what's going on

Or D) they've figured out who the Top 8 teams are, but they could be 1's or 2's depending on the results of the conference tourneys.

The committee does this every season. They just can't wait until Sunday to start selecting and seeding teams. Depending on the next couple day a team can move up or move down but you have to start somewhere.

Teams that are playing Sunday will already have played 97% of their games prior to the championship game. That last game shouldn't make much of a difference unless you're truly on the fence about a team.

I'm going to be very interested to see how the committee handles Notre Dame. They're a mid bubble team on resume...but they would easily be in if Bonzie Coulson didn't get hurt. Will they get a pass since they've look relatively good with him in there?

(03-09-2018 02:32 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I'm going to be very interested to see how the committee handles Notre Dame. They're a mid bubble team on resume...but they would easily be in if Bonzie Coulson didn't get hurt. Will they get a pass since they've look relatively good with him in there?

While they pass the eye test better with Coulson, they had some bad losses when he was healthy too. They got destroyed by MSU (No shame), but also lost to Ball State and Indiana. So would they have actually won many more games in the ACC with him? I would think they would win a couple/few more, but who knows. Lots of those games were double digit losses. Their metrics aren't very good and they went 2-9 in quadrant 1 games, 8-10 in conference and I don't know that any team with a sub .500 conference record has gotten in, or it is rare (Though this year, a few bubble teams have that). My guy says they are out, but maybe they slide in as the play-in game.

I'm very skeptical of the committee including Notre Dame

Auburn loses early, good for UC!

(03-09-2018 02:45 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I'm very skeptical of the committee including Notre Dame

If it comes down to Notre Dame and Middle TN St., who are they going to pick?

Houston's lucky they're finishing strong or they'd have been a prime candidate to make room for the leprechauns.