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(02-11-2018 12:54 PM)Ring of Black Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 09:24 AM)jarr Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 09:22 AM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 08:44 AM)jarr Wrote:  Where will the Bearcats be today? I think with tOSU and TT coming on strong lately, they may have bumped us off the 2 line. I have a hard time putting Kansas as 3 still because how they have looked, but their computer numbers are still legit and their overall body if work is still nice.

1: Virginia, Nova, Xavier, Mich. ST.

2: Purdue, Auburn, Ohio State, TT

3: UC, Clemson, Duke, Kansas

4: Rhode Island, Tennessee, Gonzaga, North Carolina
No way in hell TO$U or Auburn in front of us

We shall see at 1230. This is what my gut tells me.

Your skepticism is well-understood. However, I'm glad you were wrong on this one :)
2/3? I'll take it over being 1/3 all day every day. nice try though
 
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(02-11-2018 12:53 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 12:48 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  Mentioned only RPI and Quadrant, Zero mention of KENPOM.

Committee has always had an rpi focus. No surprise. Kenpom is great for talk about how good teams are but committee used own criteria. Used to be rpi top 50, 100 wins... now it-s quad 1 quad 2 wins

So basically we can ignore Kenpom and just concentrate on RPI and Sagarin?
 
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Looked up ticket prices if we made it to Atlanta, I'll pass on that game. I can drive to Orlando for weekend to see championship games of AAC for half price.
 
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Gotta say...it was really great seeing UC on that 2 line. Great publicity
 
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(02-11-2018 01:23 PM)payday Wrote:  Gotta say...it was really great seeing UC on that 2 line. Great publicity

sweeter if we blow smu out in front of national audience
 
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(02-11-2018 01:20 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
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(02-11-2018 12:48 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  Mentioned only RPI and Quadrant, Zero mention of KENPOM.

Committee has always had an rpi focus. No surprise. Kenpom is great for talk about how good teams are but committee used own criteria. Used to be rpi top 50, 100 wins... now it-s quad 1 quad 2 wins

So basically we can ignore Kenpom and just concentrate on RPI and Sagarin?

Sagarin is no different. I really only look at kenpom or sagarin when evaluating resumes as a bonus for teams when there is an enormous discrepancy. When you're seeding teams it's about record v quadrant 1 and 2 teams. (Used to be rpi top 50 and 100 teams). But if you're actually trying to talk about how good a team is sagarin and kenpom both very relevant.
 
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(02-11-2018 01:32 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 01:20 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 12:53 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 12:48 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  Mentioned only RPI and Quadrant, Zero mention of KENPOM.

Committee has always had an rpi focus. No surprise. Kenpom is great for talk about how good teams are but committee used own criteria. Used to be rpi top 50, 100 wins... now it-s quad 1 quad 2 wins

So basically we can ignore Kenpom and just concentrate on RPI and Sagarin?

Sagarin is no different. I really only look at kenpom or sagarin when evaluating resumes as a bonus for teams when there is an enormous discrepancy. When you're seeding teams it's about record v quadrant 1 and 2 teams. (Used to be rpi top 50 and 100 teams). But if you're actually trying to talk about how good a team is sagarin and kenpom both very relevant.
so why wasnt we #1 seed. How many teams how more quad 1 or 2 wins?
 
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If we run table or only lose 1 rest of way, are we top #1 seed?
 
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(02-11-2018 01:35 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  so why wasnt we #1 seed. How many teams how more quad 1 or 2 wins?

Lack of signature wins. Committee views 1 seeds differently than other seeds. Want to see a couple elite wins.
 
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(02-11-2018 01:40 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  If we run table or only lose 1 rest of way, are we top #1 seed?

No. If we run the table i think we can be a 1 ( depending on what happens with everyone else).. If we lose 1 we're a 2 with an outside shot at a 1 if things get crazy.
 
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(02-11-2018 01:41 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 01:35 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  so why wasnt we #1 seed. How many teams how more quad 1 or 2 wins?

Lack of signature wins. Committee views 1 seeds differently than other seeds. Want to see a couple elite wins.

auburn?
 
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The committee ignoring predictive metrics continues to be my biggest complaint. By kenpom the Midwest would have by far the weakest 1, the 2nd weakest 2, the weakest 3 and the weakest 4. Kenpom 13, 9, 15 and 28. I like valuing wins, but they are too often slaves to team sheets
 
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Nice how we get NKU in the first round. It is always about the match up and Money.
 
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What happens if we drop 3 games during this last month? Home against WSU is a toss up for me. Playing them in the road is going to be rough and we still have at SMU , at Houston, and the usual wtf loss that shouldn't happen. Can we avoid the wtf loss that seems to happen every year?



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Depending what ends up happening, the seed number really isn't as a big of a deal to me as the match ups and location are.
 
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Why do I get the feeling we see UL in the 2nd round?
 
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(02-11-2018 06:01 PM)FenderCat Wrote:  Why do I get the feeling we see UL in the 2nd round?

I could be wrong, but I think UL would be a decent match up for us.
 
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The NCAA Selection Committee has us penned as a 2-seed in the South Region at this moment. Virginia would be the 1 Seed in that region.

Xavier is penned in as the 1 Seed in the Midwest...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...ion-sunday
 
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(02-11-2018 02:09 PM)Nobones Wrote:  Nice how we get NKU in the first round. It is always about the match up and Money.

But we've all been told that it's all happenstance...
the committee doesn't set up story lines...
it's just how the S curve falls.

And I have a bridge to sell in Brooklyn.
 
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(02-11-2018 08:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 02:09 PM)Nobones Wrote:  Nice how we get NKU in the first round. It is always about the match up and Money.

But we've all been told that it's all happenstance...
the committee doesn't set up story lines...
it's just how the S curve falls.

And I have a bridge to sell in Brooklyn.

So true 04-cheers
 
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