https://nflmocks.com/2018/02/09/logan-wo...ng-report/

Says a lot of nice things about Woodside

I will throw out a guess. Chiefs have a vacancy at QB with Smith trade

Definitely NOT a runner!

Overall, a pretty decent evaluation.

Chiefs picked up a nice QB last year. This is a nice review, and it seems pretty accurate. The video posted earlier of Diante Johnson did a nice job highlighting Logan’s ball placement and ability to make a lot of throws. Really accurate. The review mentioned the receivers were bad with a lot of drops. The last couple years drops have improved, but there were a number of drive stopping drops in Toledo losses. Ely’s Receivers dropped a ton of balls prior to Logan.

(02-10-2018 07:19 PM)PTLROCK Wrote:  Chiefs picked up a nice QB last year. This is a nice review, and it seems pretty accurate. The video posted earlier of Diante Johnson did a nice job highlighting Logan’s ball placement and ability to make a lot of throws. Really accurate. The review mentioned the receivers were bad with a lot of drops. The last couple years drops have improved, but there were a number of drive stopping drops in Toledo losses. Ely’s Receivers dropped a ton of balls prior to Logan.

Ely’s last year we had sooooo many drops. Disappointing because we had some big targets with speed.

I know one of the former UT receivers. He said the receivers preferred Woodside over Ely but the coaches liked Ely. Woodside was better at adjusting the speed and positioning of his throws. Ely simply threw bullets and the receivers were expected to make the catch even from close range.

our receivers worst game was the miami game. and that was the one the scouts probably watched the most closely so obviously the perspective on the receivers will be skewed a bit. if our receivers were reliable all of that game we might have won. had a couple key drives killed by drops on potential 1st down throws.

woodside sure fits the backup qb ho in a few years can hold down the position should there be an injury mold. not the size, arm presence of a high draft pick, but has the ability, football IQ and approach to be a functional NFL QB once he learns the footwork playing under center.

Completely silly to say he had "poor" receivers. Compare drops the past few seasons to the number of times receivers have toasted DBs and the number of times they have made catches most receivers wouldn't have - especially Thompson, DJohnson and Roberts. All in all, I think the receivers made waaay more plays to help Woodside than they did to hurt him.

There's a tendency on this board to throw receiver's under the bus. Not sure why. If it's ALL the receivers, hint, it's not the receivers. This was the big point of disagreement over Ely. I got the feel so many had the hots for the "Alabama" transfer they couldn't see the ball repeatedly heading for the receivers hind quarters, where they used to be as they're on a full sprint the other way.

Woodside's accuracy in a huge variety of throws was evident. If there was a bad day, it was mostly likely his or the play callers, not 8 receivers.

The evaluator said Woodside did NOT have any quality receivers to throw to. What team was he watching ? We had one of the best QB/WR combinations in the country.

(02-15-2018 10:57 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  The evaluator said Woodside did NOT have any quality receivers to throw to. What team was he watching ? We had one of the best QB/WR combinations in the country.

I agree to a point......

Cody Thompson and Dionte Johnson are both above average.

The rest had A LOT of drops.

Dionte Johnson was inconsistent most of the year. A quality receiver is not only measured on ability to catch, but also on being able to consistently get some separation, not giving up on plays, not running the wrong routes, reading the defense the same as the QB so he knows how to adjust his route. I'm not saying he did all those, but I will say he did at least three of them at various times during the season, and sometimes all in one game. I saw more passes thrown that were not near anyone last year than the prior year. There were a lot of mix ups between QB and receivers.

It was a shame we did not have Cody Thompson for the entire season, but since we won the MACC, now I'm glad we have him back for another year - along with the Johnsons.

(02-15-2018 04:42 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Dionte Johnson was inconsistent most of the year. A quality receiver is not only measured on ability to catch, but also on being able to consistently get some separation, not giving up on plays, not running the wrong routes, reading the defense the same as the QB so he knows how to adjust his route. I'm not saying he did all those, but I will say he did at least three of them at various times during the season, and sometimes all in one game. I saw more passes thrown that were not near anyone last year than the prior year. There were a lot of mix ups between QB and receivers.

It was a shame we did not have Cody Thompson for the entire season, but since we won the MACC, now I'm glad we have him back for another year - along with the Johnsons.

Are you talking about Diontae Johnson or Jon'Vea Johnson? What you wrote applies to Jon'Vea.

Diontae had 6 games of 100 yards and really found his groove once Cody Thompson went down. He finished the season with 74 catches for 1278 yards and 13 TDs which are better numbers than Cody Thompson put up in a healthy 2016.

Jon'Vea had 42 catches for 689 yards and 5 TDs. I watched him drop ball after ball this season.

(02-16-2018 08:51 AM)FtLauderdaleRocket Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 04:42 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Dionte Johnson was inconsistent most of the year. A quality receiver is not only measured on ability to catch, but also on being able to consistently get some separation, not giving up on plays, not running the wrong routes, reading the defense the same as the QB so he knows how to adjust his route. I'm not saying he did all those, but I will say he did at least three of them at various times during the season, and sometimes all in one game. I saw more passes thrown that were not near anyone last year than the prior year. There were a lot of mix ups between QB and receivers.

It was a shame we did not have Cody Thompson for the entire season, but since we won the MACC, now I'm glad we have him back for another year - along with the Johnsons.

Are you talking about Diontae Johnson or Jon'Vea Johnson? What you wrote applies to Jon'Vea.

Diontae had 6 games of 100 yards and really found his groove once Cody Thompson went down. He finished the season with 74 catches for 1278 yards and 13 TDs which are better numbers than Cody Thompson put up in a healthy 2016.

Jon'Vea had 42 catches for 689 yards and 5 TDs. I watched him drop ball after ball this season.

Not at all. I watched Dionte make a number of mistakes and also watched as he and Woodside had a few words on the sideline when Woodside was motioning with his hands what he was supposed to run.

You are making comments about his stats, which are very good. They could have been even better. Thompson's may have been lower in the prior year - for the reason that Johnson was also there for the entire year. No question D.J. has some great physical attributes and great speed. He also made some great catches and had a superb YAC. I never criticized his ability to catch the ball and know what to do with it after the catch.

JonVea unquestionably was inconsistent and made a number of mistakes. I doubt either one of them would not admit they have some areas that need to be cleaned up. And now Woodside is gone - so you also lose that dynamic heading into 2018. Still, I can't imagine any defense in the MAC trying to figure out how they will defend Thompson, D.J., JVJ, Mitchell, and McKinley-Lewis along with Seymour/Thompkins/Sims; Fisher & Rosi, and likely a very good running QB in Guadagni - who showed signs in his limited play last year that he also has a decent arm. Have no idea how accurate he is or how composed he will be. I think he will do great.

(02-15-2018 04:42 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Not at all. I watched Dionte make a number of mistakes and also watched as he and Woodside had a few words on the sideline when Woodside was motioning with his hands what he was supposed to run.

You are making comments about his stats, which are very good. They could have been even better. Thompson's may have been lower in the prior year - for the reason that Johnson was also there for the entire year. No question D.J. has some great physical attributes and great speed. He also made some great catches and had a superb YAC. I never criticized his ability to catch the ball and know what to do with it after the catch.

JonVea unquestionably was inconsistent and made a number of mistakes. I doubt either one of them would not admit they have some areas that need to be cleaned up. And now Woodside is gone - so you also lose that dynamic heading into 2018. Still, I can't imagine any defense in the MAC trying to figure out how they will defend Thompson, D.J., JVJ, Mitchell, and McKinley-Lewis along with Seymour/Thompkins/Sims; Fisher & Rosi, and likely a very good running QB in Guadagni - who showed signs in his limited play last year that he also has a decent arm. Have no idea how accurate he is or how composed he will be. I think he will do great.

OK, I watched every game on TV and I did not see any of those interactions between DJ and LW. I get where you are coming from now.

and Woodside will be working out for NFL at the Combine this Saturday (March 3rd), can watch on NFL network or look for updates and highlights on web or social media as Combine gets widespread coverage these days