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Spring Scrimmage idea
I have been to all of the spring "game" scrimmages. It seems to me I learn almost nothing about how good the kids really are, because they're playing each other. This gives me no perspective about how they look against other teams.

It occurs to me the pros scrimmage other teams, basketball plays other teams in closed practices, so why don't college football teams play a spring "game" against real competition? Wouldn't this give everyone concerned a better picture of how they stack up?

I'm going to email BW with this question. If he responds, I'll share it.
02-09-2018 11:52 AM
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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
Because it costs 3x as much to move a football team as a basketball team. When the NFL does it they spend a full week there practicing with each other before a preseason game to make more $$ viable. It's just harder to do in college, especially in non P5.
02-09-2018 11:56 AM
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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
There are limitations to what you can do. Coaches want to be able to control the environment as well as put the team in specific situations. It would be tough to do against an opposing team. Also, would the opposing team miss out on their spring game (home) or play one spring game away and one at home?
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the NCAA doesn't allow it
02-09-2018 11:58 AM
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My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.
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(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

This. And let them play a real game. It bugs me that Wilder tries to simulate everything.
02-09-2018 12:47 PM
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(02-09-2018 11:58 AM)Punk Wrote:  the NCAA doesn't allow it

Yup, so no point in discussing it.
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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
(02-09-2018 12:47 PM)odufansam Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

This. And let them play a real game. It bugs me that Wilder tries to simulate everything.

That is the whole purpose of practice.
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(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
(02-09-2018 01:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:47 PM)odufansam Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

This. And let them play a real game. It bugs me that Wilder tries to simulate everything.

That is the whole purpose of practice.

I guess I expect differently from a scrimmage. I want something more like the Blue/White game in basketball. Just shorten the game to a half and let them really play.
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Can't argue with responsiveness!

Bob,
Great question by you. NCAA rule does not allow for scrimmages v. other schools in the Spring. Added expenses and missed class time out of season are just a few of the reasons. Have a great weekend!

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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
(02-09-2018 03:35 PM)odufansam Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 01:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:47 PM)odufansam Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

This. And let them play a real game. It bugs me that Wilder tries to simulate everything.

That is the whole purpose of practice.

I guess I expect differently from a scrimmage. I want something more like the Blue/White game in basketball. Just shorten the game to a half and let them really play.

Scrimmage ≠ Exhibition
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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
All the spring games I have seen at different colleges (P5 and non P5) have roughly the same format.
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Spring Scrimmage idea
That’s some kick ass response time by Coach!


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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
(02-09-2018 12:47 PM)odufansam Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

This. And let them play a real game. It bugs me that Wilder tries to simulate everything.

04-cheers04-cheers04-cheers Agree!! The one year they let us sit on the west side it was cloudy and chilly but still beats the sun in the eyes.
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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
(02-09-2018 01:51 PM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

[Image: giphy.gif]

I've only been to 2 spring games, and both were when we were still in the CAA, but I'm pretty sure both times I sat on the west side.
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(02-09-2018 07:51 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 01:51 PM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:10 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  My idea for the spring scrimmage. Open up the darn west side. I hate staring into the sun.

[Image: giphy.gif]

I've only been to 2 spring games, and both were when we were still in the CAA, but I'm pretty sure both times I sat on the west side.
I definitely recall sitting on the west side at some point.

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(02-09-2018 04:00 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Can't argue with responsiveness!

Bob,
Great question by you. NCAA rule does not allow for scrimmages v. other schools in the Spring. Added expenses and missed class time out of season are just a few of the reasons. Have a great weekend!

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If only ODU were so quick to get out stadium information.
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(02-13-2018 09:15 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 04:00 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Can't argue with responsiveness!

Bob,
Great question by you. NCAA rule does not allow for scrimmages v. other schools in the Spring. Added expenses and missed class time out of season are just a few of the reasons. Have a great weekend!

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If only ODU were so quick to get out stadium information.

How long do ya keep 2016 Bahamas Bowl Champ as a signature? 07-coffee3
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RE: Spring Scrimmage idea
(02-13-2018 09:18 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:15 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 04:00 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Can't argue with responsiveness!

Bob,
Great question by you. NCAA rule does not allow for scrimmages v. other schools in the Spring. Added expenses and missed class time out of season are just a few of the reasons. Have a great weekend!

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If only ODU were so quick to get out stadium information.

How long do ya keep 2016 Bahamas Bowl Champ as a signature? 07-coffee3

Also weird, is the fact that his name is not in his signature.
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