On Marc Gasol.

Ya, the Grizz are putting themselves in basketball purgatory by holding onto him. The core is too old and too injured to ever make a competitive run in the West. Besides, barring injuries every team in the West is probably 3 years out from being competitive against Golden State (assuming they begin to break up around then). There is no sense in holding onto a 33 year old player in this scenario. Let him go and hopefully get some young players and/or picks in return and start rebuilding.

I think it is past time to move Marc, Grizz are sinking barring a lightning bolt in the draft.

People saying trade Marc need to give a realistic scenario where the Grizz get a decent return for him.

NBA is flooded with centers right now. And Marc is 33. Any Marc trade would also involve taking approx. $25M back in player salary. Hard to construct a trade that brings much value to the Grizz.

(02-08-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  People saying trade Marc need to give a realistic scenario where the Grizz get a decent return for him.

NBA is flooded with centers right now. And Marc is 33. Any Marc trade would also involve taking approx. $25M back in player salary. Hard to construct a trade that brings much value to the Grizz.

IMO it is about beginning a rebuild. You try to get a decent draft pick, maybe a young player and a large expiring contract. Marc still has good value, especially for a team that thinks they can compete for a conference or NBA title. However, his value will drop dramatically next year and every year after. Otherwise, you are stuck with an aging star and a massive salary that hamstrings free agency moves and future trades.

(02-08-2018 12:25 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  People saying trade Marc need to give a realistic scenario where the Grizz get a decent return for him.

NBA is flooded with centers right now. And Marc is 33. Any Marc trade would also involve taking approx. $25M back in player salary. Hard to construct a trade that brings much value to the Grizz.

IMO it is about beginning a rebuild. You try to get a decent draft pick, maybe a young player and a large expiring contract. Marc still has good value, especially for a team that thinks they can compete for a conference or NBA title. However, his value will drop dramatically next year and every year after. Otherwise, you are stuck with an aging star and a massive salary that hamstrings free agency moves and future trades.

Again, construct a trade. They just aren't out there.

Want to take Tristan Thompson at $18M per year for the next 3 years? I sure don't.

I have no problem with them not trading Gasol but to not even listen to offers is not doing your job and just flat out stupid

Grizzlies want a high draft pick to go along with Conley and Gasol next year. We can't go into full rebuild mode because of bad contracts. Might as well ride the mule til it drops.

(02-08-2018 01:43 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Grizzlies want a high draft pick to go along with Conley and Gasol next year. We can't go into full rebuild mode because of bad contracts. Might as well ride the mule til it drops.

The mule has already dropped. Gasol and Conley arent part of this teams future. Conley, Bagley, Gasol at best gets you the 6th seed and a first round exit. What would be the point of that?

(02-08-2018 01:50 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 01:43 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Grizzlies want a high draft pick to go along with Conley and Gasol next year. We can't go into full rebuild mode because of bad contracts. Might as well ride the mule til it drops.

The mule has already dropped. Gasol and Conley arent part of this teams future

Couldn't be more wrong. They are the core for 2 more seasons. Idea is to fill with young guys around them - Selden, DD, Kobi, Dillon, Rabb, this year's pick, return on the Tyreke trade.

You guys are way too pessimistic. Marc is playing well - 18, 8 & 4. Mike would be playing in we were in the playoff hunt, had the bone shaving surgery earlier because we aren't.

(02-08-2018 12:33 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:25 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  People saying trade Marc need to give a realistic scenario where the Grizz get a decent return for him.

NBA is flooded with centers right now. And Marc is 33. Any Marc trade would also involve taking approx. $25M back in player salary. Hard to construct a trade that brings much value to the Grizz.

IMO it is about beginning a rebuild. You try to get a decent draft pick, maybe a young player and a large expiring contract. Marc still has good value, especially for a team that thinks they can compete for a conference or NBA title. However, his value will drop dramatically next year and every year after. Otherwise, you are stuck with an aging star and a massive salary that hamstrings free agency moves and future trades.

Again, construct a trade. They just aren't out there.

Want to take Tristan Thompson at $18M per year for the next 3 years? I sure don't.

There clearly are options if teams are calling the Grizz about Gasol...

(02-08-2018 01:54 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 01:50 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 01:43 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Grizzlies want a high draft pick to go along with Conley and Gasol next year. We can't go into full rebuild mode because of bad contracts. Might as well ride the mule til it drops.

The mule has already dropped. Gasol and Conley arent part of this teams future

Couldn't be more wrong. They are the core for 2 more seasons. Idea is to fill with young guys around them - Selden, DD, Kobi, Dillon, Rabb, this year's pick, return on the Tyreke trade.

You guys are way too pessimistic. Marc is playing well - 18, 8 & 4. Mike would be playing in we were in the playoff hunt, had the bone shaving surgery earlier because we aren't.

So they are the core for two more seasons and then what? Conley will be 32 and Gasol 35. The idea is to put a bunch of undrafted players and second round picks around a couple aging non all stars?

And Gasol is a 7foot center shooting 41% from the field. I would bet you anything he never makes an Allstar game again

(02-08-2018 02:17 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:33 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:25 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  People saying trade Marc need to give a realistic scenario where the Grizz get a decent return for him.

NBA is flooded with centers right now. And Marc is 33. Any Marc trade would also involve taking approx. $25M back in player salary. Hard to construct a trade that brings much value to the Grizz.

IMO it is about beginning a rebuild. You try to get a decent draft pick, maybe a young player and a large expiring contract. Marc still has good value, especially for a team that thinks they can compete for a conference or NBA title. However, his value will drop dramatically next year and every year after. Otherwise, you are stuck with an aging star and a massive salary that hamstrings free agency moves and future trades.

Again, construct a trade. They just aren't out there.

Want to take Tristan Thompson at $18M per year for the next 3 years? I sure don't.

There clearly are options if teams are calling the Grizz about Gasol...

Not true at all. More probable that teams trying to dump a bad contract and take Marc, hoping for a Grizz fire sale.

Take Noah, give us Marc. Take Tristan, give us Marc. Take Valancunias, give us Marc.

(02-08-2018 02:21 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 01:54 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 01:50 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 01:43 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Grizzlies want a high draft pick to go along with Conley and Gasol next year. We can't go into full rebuild mode because of bad contracts. Might as well ride the mule til it drops.

The mule has already dropped. Gasol and Conley arent part of this teams future

Couldn't be more wrong. They are the core for 2 more seasons. Idea is to fill with young guys around them - Selden, DD, Kobi, Dillon, Rabb, this year's pick, return on the Tyreke trade.

You guys are way too pessimistic. Marc is playing well - 18, 8 & 4. Mike would be playing in we were in the playoff hunt, had the bone shaving surgery earlier because we aren't.

And Gasol is a 7foot center shooting 41% from the field. I would bet you anything he never makes an Allstar game again

Of course he won't. Only 12 players make the West All Star team each year. Means nothing.

He's still a very good player, worth much more to the Grizz than what they could get for him in a trade.

(02-08-2018 02:22 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 02:17 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:33 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:25 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  People saying trade Marc need to give a realistic scenario where the Grizz get a decent return for him.

NBA is flooded with centers right now. And Marc is 33. Any Marc trade would also involve taking approx. $25M back in player salary. Hard to construct a trade that brings much value to the Grizz.

IMO it is about beginning a rebuild. You try to get a decent draft pick, maybe a young player and a large expiring contract. Marc still has good value, especially for a team that thinks they can compete for a conference or NBA title. However, his value will drop dramatically next year and every year after. Otherwise, you are stuck with an aging star and a massive salary that hamstrings free agency moves and future trades.

Again, construct a trade. They just aren't out there.

Want to take Tristan Thompson at $18M per year for the next 3 years? I sure don't.

There clearly are options if teams are calling the Grizz about Gasol...

Not true at all. More probable that teams trying to dump a bad contract and take Marc, hoping for a Grizz fire sale.

Take Noah, give us Marc. Take Tristan, give us Marc. Take Valancunias, give us Marc.

Why would they ask us to take a bad contract to take out best player off our hands?

(02-08-2018 02:27 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 02:22 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 02:17 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:33 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:25 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  IMO it is about beginning a rebuild. You try to get a decent draft pick, maybe a young player and a large expiring contract. Marc still has good value, especially for a team that thinks they can compete for a conference or NBA title. However, his value will drop dramatically next year and every year after. Otherwise, you are stuck with an aging star and a massive salary that hamstrings free agency moves and future trades.

Again, construct a trade. They just aren't out there.

Want to take Tristan Thompson at $18M per year for the next 3 years? I sure don't.

There clearly are options if teams are calling the Grizz about Gasol...

Not true at all. More probable that teams trying to dump a bad contract and take Marc, hoping for a Grizz fire sale.

Take Noah, give us Marc. Take Tristan, give us Marc. Take Valancunias, give us Marc.

Why would they ask us to take a bad contract to take out best player off our hands?

Jesus Christ. Like I keep asking, construct a realistic trade if you know so much.

Tell me a good player someone would give up for Marc? And make sure their salaries match.