(02-08-2018 12:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 11:58 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 11:33 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Agreed...

Not hiring him because you are afraid of hurting his legacy is stupid.

But he is also not qualified for the job...He may turn out to be a wonderful coach but he is definitely not qualified.

Please expand on what qualifications he is lacking to take over as head coach. So if he is definitely not qualified you must have a pretty good list of definite why nots.

He has never coached above the high school level...

Would you be on board on hiring anyone other high school coach in the nation? If Todd Day was the one coaching East would you be advocating for him to be the head man.

Todd Day isn't Penny.

Remind me where Day attended college again?

Where you played has nothing to do with your qualifications...Keep up.

Dude, if Penny says he could bring solid players with him, I would be signing him up. Also, the majority of Tiger fans would come back to the Forum. That said, I would be looking into several coaches. Not just Steve Forbes.

(02-08-2018 11:33 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:42 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 09:02 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  We should not hire Penny for his sake and ours.

It's hard and rare for a coaching stint to end well.

With all due respect to you, but I’m tired of the thought process of the “I don’t want Penny to go through what Larry went through when he was fired” take.
First off, if Penny is ever offered the job, it should be Penny’s choice, not ours. It makes zero difference if some fans don’t want to hire Penny because it may end bad. It’s Penny’s choice and if it’s his dream to be the head coach at the school where he played and was a star, who the heck are any of us to stand in the way of his dream?
As for Larry, I wouldn’t trade off watching him coach for his school just because it ended poorly. I wouldn’t trade off all of the great memories of Larry coaching the Tigers, no way. Being the Tigers coach meant everything to Larry. And I loved that he was our coach. I like the idea of former Tiger greats becoming the head coach.

Agreed...

Not hiring him because you are afraid of hurting his legacy is stupid.

But he is also not qualified for the job...He may turn out to be a wonderful coach but he is definitely not qualified.

Please expand on what qualifications he is lacking to take over as head coach. So if he is definitely not qualified you must have a pretty good list of definite why nots.

He's never been a successful Division 1 head coach or a high level D1 assistant that's so much as recruited a single player to play on a college campus. He hasn't coached as a head coach or assistant at an NBA level either. There's absolutely no track record as to the kind of college program he would run. He's not exactly in demand as a potential Division 1 coach. We're the only school talking about hiring him. He hasn't paid his dues and his main qualification is that he may get some players to commit.

(02-08-2018 12:10 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 11:33 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:42 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 09:02 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  We should not hire Penny for his sake and ours.

It's hard and rare for a coaching stint to end well.

With all due respect to you, but I’m tired of the thought process of the “I don’t want Penny to go through what Larry went through when he was fired” take.
First off, if Penny is ever offered the job, it should be Penny’s choice, not ours. It makes zero difference if some fans don’t want to hire Penny because it may end bad. It’s Penny’s choice and if it’s his dream to be the head coach at the school where he played and was a star, who the heck are any of us to stand in the way of his dream?
As for Larry, I wouldn’t trade off watching him coach for his school just because it ended poorly. I wouldn’t trade off all of the great memories of Larry coaching the Tigers, no way. Being the Tigers coach meant everything to Larry. And I loved that he was our coach. I like the idea of former Tiger greats becoming the head coach.

Agreed...

Not hiring him because you are afraid of hurting his legacy is stupid.

But he is also not qualified for the job...He may turn out to be a wonderful coach but he is definitely not qualified.

Please expand on what qualifications he is lacking to take over as head coach. So if he is definitely not qualified you must have a pretty good list of definite why nots.

He's never been a successful Division 1 head coach or a high level D1 assistant that's so much as recruited a single player to play on a college campus. He hasn't coached as a head coach or assistant at an NBA level either. There's absolutely no track record as to the kind of college program he would run. He's not exactly in demand as a potential Division 1 coach. We're the only school talking about hiring him. He hasn't paid his dues and his main qualification is that he may get some players to commit.

We’ll put you down as a big NO for hiring Penny.

I’m very certain that if they did hire Penny we would have about 5 to 10 posters bitching about it and then it would spill over to trashing him because he was chosen and the said poster didn’t approve.

(02-07-2018 10:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I wonder if Penny would do the damn thing for 1 cent?

#teampenny

Get a job.

(02-08-2018 10:42 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 09:02 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  We should not hire Penny for his sake and ours.

It's hard and rare for a coaching stint to end well.

With all due respect to you, but I’m tired of the thought process of the “I don’t want Penny to go through what Larry went through when he was fired” take.

Thanks for the respect. I understand your position. The allure of having a great recruiter, home town hero, who obviously knows basketball.....

My perspective is I have know at least 8 alumni over the past 40 years who returned to the UofM to help in some capacity. Each had some measure of success in their field and all ready to take us to the next level. Sports, academics, fund raising, administration and to a man they left hurt and disillusioned. I think it's just what happens.

Penny would be great but it wouldn't end that way.

I am for hiring Penny. Since he has limited experience I would offer a contract that is back loaded with a small buyout. That way he would get paid more as he gains experience coaching (and allow us money to pay off Tubby during those early years). If Penny isn't successful, I believe he would step aside for the program. I just don't think he wants to be anybody's assistant and I would hate for another school to offer him a job and we have to play against Penny.

(02-08-2018 02:46 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:42 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 09:02 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  We should not hire Penny for his sake and ours.

It's hard and rare for a coaching stint to end well.

With all due respect to you, but I’m tired of the thought process of the “I don’t want Penny to go through what Larry went through when he was fired” take.

Thanks for the respect. I understand your position. The allure of having a great recruiter, home town hero, who obviously knows basketball.....

My perspective is I have know at least 8 alumni over the past 40 years who returned to the UofM to help in some capacity. Each had some measure of success in their field and all ready to take us to the next level. Sports, academics, fund raising, administration and to a man they left hurt and disillusioned. I think it's just what happens.

Penny would be great but it wouldn't end that way.

Well again it would be Penny’s decision, if he was offered. Also, nobody other than God knows how it would turn out.

The current situation sucks, I’m for ANYONE who can get us back. If it’s some coach that never gets talked about here, cool. If it’s some assistant somewhere, fine. If it’s Penny, great! Just as long as we get back to winning basketball, Memphis basketball, being ranked and beating ranked teams basketball, actually competing in the AAC for once basketball, getting a good seed and advancing in the NCAA tournament basketball!! And I won’t care one bit or spend one second worrying about how it will end for Coach ?!?!?!?!.

(02-08-2018 12:08 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 11:58 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 11:33 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  Please expand on what qualifications he is lacking to take over as head coach. So if he is definitely not qualified you must have a pretty good list of definite why nots.

He has never coached above the high school level...

Would you be on board on hiring anyone other high school coach in the nation? If Todd Day was the one coaching East would you be advocating for him to be the head man.

Todd Day isn't Penny.

Remind me where Day attended college again?

Where you played has nothing to do with your qualifications...Keep up.

Dude, if Penny says he could bring solid players with him, I would be signing him up. Also, the majority of Tiger fans would come back to the Forum. That said, I would be looking into several coaches. Not just Steve Forbes.

The Penny chatter is old. It could make sense IF he really could bring players. Logic tells us he won't bring his current players. SO who is he bringing?.....there hasn't been an answer here yet. Therefore, solid NO for me. Love him as an asset where he is. I do believe the reason we are not getting East HS's players is related to Tubby; not Penny.

But please share thoughts on other options. Since u want to discuss many options. But please, leave the Penny thing alone.

(02-08-2018 12:21 PM)TonyDaTiger Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 10:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I wonder if Penny would do the damn thing for 1 cent?

#teampenny

Get a job.

(02-08-2018 03:09 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:08 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 11:58 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  He has never coached above the high school level...

Would you be on board on hiring anyone other high school coach in the nation? If Todd Day was the one coaching East would you be advocating for him to be the head man.

Todd Day isn't Penny.

Remind me where Day attended college again?

Where you played has nothing to do with your qualifications...Keep up.

Dude, if Penny says he could bring solid players with him, I would be signing him up. Also, the majority of Tiger fans would come back to the Forum. That said, I would be looking into several coaches. Not just Steve Forbes.

The Penny chatter is old. It could make sense IF he really could bring players. Logic tells us he won't bring his current players. SO who is he bringing?.....there hasn't been an answer here yet. Therefore, solid NO for me. Love him as an asset where he is. I do believe the reason we are not getting East HS's players is related to Tubby; not Penny.

But please share thoughts on other options. Since u want to discuss many options. But please, leave the Penny thing alone.

I rarely start the conversation about Penny. I only respond to something I view is wrong in regards to Penny. Also, telling posters to leave a topic alone most likely won’t work. Lastly, I disagree that he can’t bring in the players. If he was hired that is the main reason why he would get the job.

so players move from other schools and other states to play for him in high school

but they would not follow him to a college he is coaching

(logic folks, logic)

I rarely start threads even.

But who actually knows how it would go with Penny?

He's a big boy, though.

And he can make his own decisions... should it come to that. lol

only a penny to pay will take the hard (times) away

(02-08-2018 03:52 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  so players move from other schools and other states to play for him in high school

but they would not follow him to a college he is coaching

(logic folks, logic)

?

Please god make it stop.

Thanks to 2 thyroid diseases and afib, I make scents too. Not always pleasant, mind you.

(02-09-2018 02:09 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:52 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  so players move from other schools and other states to play for him in high school

but they would not follow him to a college he is coaching

(logic folks, logic)

?

antavion collum , i can find other examples if needed
in aau, they are from all over

(02-07-2018 11:26 PM)Chicago23 Wrote:  I'm a big Penny fan and would love to see him come to the tigers and fix this mess we have here,but we all know what happened to a guy named Finch who was a Tigers star at one time and actually started off winning then had a few bad years and the fans wanted him gone....So No...

Exactly what I tell anyone that will listen

(02-09-2018 11:05 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 11:26 PM)Chicago23 Wrote:  I'm a big Penny fan and would love to see him come to the tigers and fix this mess we have here,but we all know what happened to a guy named Finch who was a Tigers star at one time and actually started off winning then had a few bad years and the fans wanted him gone....So No...

Exactly what I tell anyone that will listen

Forget what Penny wants. He doesn’t get to decide if he wants to except the job, IF indeed it was offered. But instead fans who proclaim it will end terribly should decide Penny’s fate. This is baffling to me.

Who sits around worrying about how things will turn out? What would be wrong with enjoying the moment, provided he was A. offered the job and B. players came and winning started??

(02-09-2018 11:05 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 11:26 PM)Chicago23 Wrote:  I'm a big Penny fan and would love to see him come to the tigers and fix this mess we have here,but we all know what happened to a guy named Finch who was a Tigers star at one time and actually started off winning then had a few bad years and the fans wanted him gone....So No...

Exactly what I tell anyone that will listen

Larry's coaching career was pretty solid up until his health issues began taking their toll.

While he probably wasn't considered one of the Top 10 coaches in the country during his prime, he did win his fair share of games and was always a stand-up sort of human being.

Between what he did to help bring the city of Memphis together during his college playing days and the positive influence he had on players during his lengthy AC tenures at both UAB and Memphis along with his HC run at Memphis, Larry's opportunity at Memphis really can't be compared to Penny's potential future.

Unlike Larry's decade of assistant coaching prior to taking the top job at Memphis, Penny has ZERO experience at coaching and recruiting at the major college level in ANY capacity. It would be an absolute crapshoot for Penny to begin his college coaching career endeavoring to fix the broken foundation that currently describes the downtrodden Memphis basketball program.