(02-02-2018 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 10:42 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 10:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 10:29 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 10:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  According to one unnamed Republican. Translation, he pulled that figure out of his ass! Additionally, he's a Republian...he can't been seen as objective. Just as a Democrat would not be.

Not saying you aren't right but that means you can't believe much of anything anymore.

You can't. I don't. That's why I'm waiting for Mueller to complete his work.

Can you really trust him? He could have an agenda just as every one else seems to these days.

Until there's credible evidence to the contrary, yes...we have to. And as I have said in other posts...you need to come up with some credible reason as to why he would have an agenda here. He's a distinguished man of impeccable character...war hero and purple heart recipient. Why would he throw that away?

I don't know the man so I couldn't say what biases he may or may not have.

What we are seeing here is not only the absolute vindication of the President, but that the case brought against him was fake and constructed by leftist within the FBI and DoJ most likely at the behest and approval of the Clintons and Obama, and eagerly spread by a fact-free, insulting, and narrow-minded fake news media.

Trump 2020.

(02-02-2018 11:25 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What we are seeing here is not only the absolute vindication of the President, but that the case brought against him was fake and constructed by leftist within the FBI and DoJ most likely at the behest and approval of the Clintons and Obama, and eagerly spread by a fact-free, insulting, and narrow-minded fake news media.

Trump 2020.

/sarcasm

(02-02-2018 11:25 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What we are seeing here is not only the absolute vindication of the President, but that the case brought against him was fake and constructed by leftist within the FBI and DoJ most likely at the behest and approval of the Clintons and Obama, and eagerly spread by a fact-free, insulting, and narrow-minded fake news media.

Trump 2020.

I don't think we are seeing absolute vindication. I do think we are seeing that the case brought against him was at least somewhat manufactured. I think there is a very real possibility that we will find that some things that were done by people around Trump were at least somewhat shady, but that the process used to obtain evidence of such behaviour was hopelessly flawed. I do think the chances of actually reaching Trump himself are pretty remote.

I think back to how I felt about Watergate. First, Nixon had to go if the worst was true. Second, I hoped that the worst wasn't true. But third, I just had this hazy feeling in the back of my mind that the worst would prove to be true.

With this one, I have those same first and second thoughts. But I don't have the third, and the longer this goes, the further away from the third I move in my mind.

His actions tell you he’s guilty. He wanted to fire Murller last June.

(02-05-2018 03:53 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  His actions tell you he’s guilty. He wanted to fire Murller last June.

That doesn't tell me he's guilty. It tells me he's a businessman used to making decisions in a different environment. If you're trying to develop a piece of property and you have a guy like Mueller giving you a problem and you can get him fired, that's what you do. It's not what you do as president, but Trump is a lot more experienced at developing property than at being president. That he doesn't come from the same old swamp school is actually a positive in my mind, although I admit in this case the optics are bad.