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Kent State vs Buffalo
big game. good measuring stick for our chances against them in the MAC tournament final 05-stirthepot

it appears that our rotation is set.

avery at the point
(zabo subs for avery)

zabo at the 2
(ridenour subs for zabo)

jawalk at the 3

mitch peterson / duling at the 4

de la rosa / pippen at the five


LOVE this team. we are peaking at the right time (again.) 04-cheers
(This post was last modified: 01-29-2018 04:21 PM by mmucha1986.)
01-29-2018 04:19 PM
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Agree. They basically have the standard eight-man rotation. Coaches would like to have more, but eight is enough. Frederick and Bersntein go in for a few minutes in a pinch. Are there any others than those 10 dressed and eligible?
01-29-2018 05:08 PM
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Nwankwo. I'm guessing Johnson is gone at this point. Haven't seen him in a few weeks.
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Thanks, I forgot about Nwankwo. What's his story, has he been injured or just not earned getting in the games at all?
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what's the scouting report on UB? new impact players? deep bench? are they good from behind the arc?
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Here's something I've been wondering for a while. Anyone know De La Rosa's academic standing? He came to Kent out of JUCO with three years of eligibility left. So I assume that means he had to have completed his JUCO degree. So does that mean he's on pace to graduate this spring? I ask because I'm sure there are plenty of schools that would be happy to try to poach a 7 footer that rebounds, scores, and shoots 80% from the line. If that is an option I hope he stays loyal... But I also wouldn't hold it against him if he wanted to try to get more exposure as the NBA could be a realistic possiblity for him.
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(01-29-2018 07:23 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  Here's something I've been wondering for a while. Anyone know De La Rosa's academic standing? He came to Kent out of JUCO with three years of eligibility left. So I assume that means he had to have completed his JUCO degree. So does that mean he's on pace to graduate this spring? I ask because I'm sure there are plenty of schools that would be happy to try to poach a 7 footer that rebounds, scores, and shoots 80% from the line. If that is an option I hope he stays loyal... But I also wouldn't hold it against him if he wanted to try to get more exposure as the NBA could be a realistic possiblity for him.

You’re a great fan and I agree with almost every post you make. Some power conference teams may want DLR but I’d be stunned if any NBA general managers thought he had NBA potential. I guess if he hit the weights really hard and improved a whole bunch it may be possible but it sure seems like one hell of a long shot right now.

I’m also the guy who thought that LeBron would have an adjustment period. When he went to the NBA 01-lauramac2
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It's not as crazy as you might think. John Edwards played 2 years in the NBA and AD is arguably having a better Jr year than his Sr year. In more recent history Shayne Whittington played 2 years in the NBA out of WMU. His Jr year was very comparable to what AD is doing right now. He improved some in his Sr. year but not a crazy amount. And both of those guys stints were before the invention of the 2-way contract. If I was an NBA scout the big thing that would stand out to me is he's not blocking shots the way you would hope from a 7 footer and he turns it over too much. Other than that he checks off a lot of boxes scouts look for, size, length, moves well, free throw shooting, can hit mid range jumpers, plays with intensity. I'm not saying he's a lock by any means or that he'd ever get more that a cup of coffee. Just that I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the radar for teams this time next year.
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One other quick comment. In regards to this conversation it doesn't really matter if he does have a shot at the NBA. It matters if he thinks he has a shot and if he thinks leaving as a grad transfer improves that opportunity. Personally, I think the risk out weighs the benefits because here he's a lock to be one of the go to guys next year but he could end up being Jarron Simmons and riding the pine his Sr year elsewhere. Of course, this all assumes he's on track to graduate this spring... Which I have no idea if he actually is.
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(01-29-2018 11:00 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  It's not as crazy as you might think. John Edwards played 2 years in the NBA and AD is arguably having a better Jr year than his Sr year. In more recent history Shayne Whittington played 2 years in the NBA out of WMU. His Jr year was very comparable to what AD is doing right now. He improved some in his Sr. year but not a crazy amount. And both of those guys stints were before the invention of the 2-way contract. If I was an NBA scout the big thing that would stand out to me is he's not blocking shots the way you would hope from a 7 footer and he turns it over too much. Other than that he checks off a lot of boxes scouts look for, size, length, moves well, free throw shooting, can hit mid range jumpers, plays with intensity. I'm not saying he's a lock by any means or that he'd ever get more that a cup of coffee. Just that I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the radar for teams this time next year.

I hear you...personally I think Whittington was much better than ADL but I certainly see the compairison to Big John. ADL's stats this season are probably significantly better than Edward's were as a Junior (John had Gates doing a lot of scoring and rebounding). The thing that made John stand out was his shot blocking...Very long arms, decent timing and a pretty hops.

ADL is gaining confidence and is getting better! He tends to play better against teams without much size in the post. Thought Toledo's post outclassed ADL. Let's see how he does against EMU. Should be interesting. Thank God we've got a big man worthy of discussing the NBA or P5 schools!
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Buffalo plays good defense and is very efficient with the basketball.

The Bulls have quite a few heavy hitters on their roster.

Junior guard CJ Massinburg leads UB in scoring at 18 points a game. He has earned All MAC honors in both of his first two seasons playing for Buffalo. He is also the teams leading rebounder. Right behind him in both categories is 6'8 junior Nick Perkins. Perkins averages 16 points and six rebounds per game.

Those are two of the ten players that average ten minutes or more on the floor for Buffalo. Two other players, 6'1 senior Wes Clark and 6'7 junior Jeremy Harris also average double digit points. "Must find balance."

Of those four players, Clark is the "worst" free throw shooter at 69%. That is actually quite a telling stat. Each of their 4 leading scorers shoots 70% or better from the line. That comes in handy when you reach the bonus.

This UB team is good. Next year's could be even better considering all of the production that they have coming back.

For the Flashes, I think tonight is about getting hot. If we see three guys in the box score hovering around 20 points, I think we could see a KSU K.O. But that is going to be a tall order. The University at Buffalo is MAC legit.
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thanks fallsdog.

very much looking forward to the game tonight.
01-30-2018 12:56 PM
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(01-30-2018 12:52 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  Buffalo plays good defense and is very efficient with the basketball.

The Bulls have quite a few heavy hitters on their roster.

Junior guard CJ Massinburg leads UB in scoring at 18 points a game. He has earned All MAC honors in both of his first two seasons playing for Buffalo. He is also the teams leading rebounder. Right behind him in both categories is 6'8 junior Nick Perkins. Perkins averages 16 points and six rebounds per game.

Those are two of the ten players that average ten minutes or more on the floor for Buffalo. Two other players, 6'1 senior Wes Clark and 6'7 junior Jeremy Harris also average double digit points. "Must find balance."

Of those four players, Clark is the "worst" free throw shooter at 69%. That is actually quite a telling stat. Each of their 4 leading scorers shoots 70% or better from the line. That comes in handy when you reach the bonus.

This UB team is good. Next year's could be even better considering all of the production that they have coming back.

For the Flashes, I think tonight is about getting hot. If we see three guys in the box score hovering around 20 points, I think we could see a KSU K.O. But that is going to be a tall order. The University at Buffalo is MAC legit.
I made a note in a post last year about UBs youth then. Their athleticism has been a problem for us in recent years - hopefully we can play well at home as our trips up north haven't had good outcomes even when we had guys like Justin Green. If UB holds this team together and adds a piece I could see them having the potential to run the MAC the way we did in 2002.
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(01-30-2018 12:52 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  <snip>
This UB team is good. Next year's could be even better considering all of the production that they have coming back.
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I was going to say they have had a lot of good players not come back - Justin Moss, Lamonte Bearden, and Shannon Evans come to mind - but looking at the database, they have had a lot of 4-year players. Only 2 seniors this year.
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(01-30-2018 01:23 PM)OLNWFLSH Wrote:  If UB holds this team together and adds a piece I could see them having the potential to run the MAC the way we did in 2002.

Looking at Buffalo's schedule, since they're already done with Toledo, and with the rest of the MAC being down, this game at Kent State might be the best chance for someone to beat Buffalo.
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(01-30-2018 03:15 PM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 12:52 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  <snip>
This UB team is good. Next year's could be even better considering all of the production that they have coming back.
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I was going to say they have had a lot of good players not come back - Justin Moss, Lamonte Bearden, and Shannon Evans come to mind - but looking at the database, they have had a lot of 4-year players. Only 2 seniors this year.

Yea Evans left with Hurley, Moss was caught steeling money from a dorm room and kicked out of school, and Bearden failed a marijuana test if he had failed another he would have been booted so he went to WKU.

Scuttlebut is Beardens family wanted him to stay, and after he left he asked to come back but UB had already given his scholarship away.

We lose Wes Clark this year, he could stay another if he wanted but he's graduating and wants to move on.
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(01-30-2018 03:21 PM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  
(01-30-2018 01:23 PM)OLNWFLSH Wrote:  If UB holds this team together and adds a piece I could see them having the potential to run the MAC the way we did in 2002.

Looking at Buffalo's schedule, since they're already done with Toledo, and with the rest of the MAC being down, this game at Kent State might be the best chance for someone to beat Buffalo.

Kent... at kent... is always a challenge for us, plus Ohio showed that if UB is a little off on their three point shooting that anyone in the conference can stay with us a bit.

If UB get's into foul trouble it could be a rough game for us... if Kent gets into foul trouble (especially with one of your better players) then UB should roll.
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I'm at the game and am witnessing one of the worst interior defensive perdormances I've seen in a long time.
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Good game guys... Not only did UB get into foul trouble but you guys were amazing from the charity stripe. I hope my Bulls learned a few things.
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That was a crazy game.
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