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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
I share his optimisim. This is the best Rocket team in this century. I emphasize team.
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01-28-2018 09:40 AM |
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Hate to lose Fletcher next year. He has proved to be even more than the sum of parts. His enthusiasm is contagious-when the team leaves the floor for timeouts, etc they all seem to gravitate to him.
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01-28-2018 09:46 AM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
Great article. Last night was something I've been waiting to see a loooooong time. If they play like that the rest of the season, this team will have a great chance to do something special in March.
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01-28-2018 09:53 AM |
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The team right now isn't the same team I watched play Marshall and Wright State. Good coaching and team effort. Only setback is a 10 pt road effort at Buffalo. I like our odds on a neutral floor.
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01-28-2018 12:49 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 12:49 PM)emanoh Wrote: The team right now isn't the same team I watched play Marshall and Wright State. Good coaching and team effort. Only setback is a 10 pt road effort at Buffalo. I like our odds on a neutral floor.
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Agreed. I was ready to bury this team as an also-ran early on but now have switched to heaping praise upon them. The parts of this team have improved so much throughout the course of MAC play.
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01-28-2018 03:16 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
The team started improving when Willie Jackson became eligible and the 9 man rotation was established. It is like everyone now knows their role and takes pride in doing their thing.
It was great to see Alderson take some shots. I think he has been hesitant but in reality he could be a good scorer if he looked to shoot.
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I said before that I would be impressed if they won those back-to-back road games against Central and Ohio. They did, and have continued to win. I’m a believer now.
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2018 07:15 PM by bcunn3128.)
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01-28-2018 04:52 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
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01-28-2018 05:56 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
Toledo under Coach k has become a landing spot for a lot of transfers, and contrary to most fans beliefs Coach K has done a good job developing players who have transferred here. Just maybe not great defensive schemes.
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01-28-2018 06:52 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
How did he end up @ Colorado? Dunno, but they were 19-15 last year with a fairly weak OOC ( Fort Hayes State, Eastern Washington) Can’t believe they couldn’t have used him in a major role. However, I’m very pleased to have his physical skills, leadership and court awareness at Toledo.
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01-28-2018 07:43 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 07:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: (01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
How did he end up @ Colorado?
Map? Arkansas isn't very far from Colorado. Seems a normal recruiting move.
So anyone actually have an answer to my question?
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 07:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: (01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
How did he end up @ Colorado? Dunno, but they were 19-15 last year with a fairly weak OOC ( Fort Hayes State, Eastern Washington) Can’t believe they couldn’t have used him in a major role. However, I’m very pleased to have his physical skills, leadership and court awareness at Toledo.
If you ask him, I bet he would say that he is having more fun in his one year at toledo than his 3 at Colorado.
I think the ncaa should have a 2 yr clause that if the player and coach agree its not a fit, the kid can transfer and not sit out. A guy like fletcher should probably been in the MAC or similar conf from the start. He was cemented on the bench at Colorado logging a few minutes a game, but starting for us. Seems like a waste of talent riding the pine if you ask me.
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01-28-2018 09:13 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 09:13 PM)emanoh Wrote: (01-28-2018 07:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: (01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
How did he end up @ Colorado? Dunno, but they were 19-15 last year with a fairly weak OOC ( Fort Hayes State, Eastern Washington) Can’t believe they couldn’t have used him in a major role. However, I’m very pleased to have his physical skills, leadership and court awareness at Toledo.
If you ask him, I bet he would say that he is having more fun in his one year at toledo than his 3 at Colorado.
I think the ncaa should have a 2 yr clause that if the player and coach agree its not a fit, the kid can transfer and not sit out. A guy like fletcher should probably been in the MAC or similar conf from the start. He was cemented on the bench at Colorado logging a few minutes a game, but starting for us. Seems like a waste of talent riding the pine if you ask me.
Someone has to. Would we really want players afraid of competition? I think it's great he went to the bigger program, where the future was less certain. Given his talent, could be he just wasn't the best fit.
So back to my question. Anyone know how the connection was made to get Fletcher to Toledo? Seems unlikely we were actually recruiting him when he was a high school student in Arkansas, but is that it?
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 08:46 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (01-28-2018 07:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: (01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
How did he end up @ Colorado?
Map? Arkansas isn't very far from Colorado. Seems a normal recruiting move.
So anyone actually have an answer to my question?
If you need a map there’s a great little tool called “Google”. You can search for different maps of places including one that shows the distance from Wilmar to Boulder being 200+ miles further than the distance from Little Rock to Toledo. Recruiting is global these days, but no I don’t have specific info, only that coaches have feelers out in their community that they’re looking to fill certain positions.
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01-28-2018 10:07 PM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
(01-28-2018 10:07 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: (01-28-2018 08:46 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (01-28-2018 07:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: (01-28-2018 05:56 PM)eastisbest Wrote: The transfers in, hopefully a step closer to getting them as Fr. It's great that the staff is able to get those players.
What exactly is the story behind those transfers? The Cleveland kid, I get. Closer to home?
Fletcher? How does a kid from Arkansas end up here?
How did he end up @ Colorado?
Map? Arkansas isn't very far from Colorado. Seems a normal recruiting move.
So anyone actually have an answer to my question?
If you need a map there’s a great little tool called “Google”. ... but no I don’t have specific info
There's a little tool in your mirror too but that doesn't answer the question.
The right kind of map will also show population density is more than bit thinner. I'd even bet the coaches have maps outlining recruiting areas. Be an azz all you care to, but Arkansas is hardly a recruiting ground for us so I'm simply asking how the connection was made.
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01-28-2018 10:17 PM |
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Fletcher went to HS in Tacoma, Washington and was recruited by several PAC 12 schools before committing to Colorado. He was caught in a numbers game at Colorado but I don't know what the connection was to UT and the Rocket coaching staff. Anybody got the inside scoop on that connection?
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01-28-2018 10:55 PM |
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not his his UT connection, I know coach K has connections to the Marquette staff and Chicago HS that Stevie Taylor came from.
Saw fletcher play at Colorado. He was a young rotation guy on a good colorado team with a loaded perimeter. could have stayed and been a contributor in the PAC12 but blossomed from the practice year to fully develop and the slight drop in size and talent down to the MAC level. coach k has been almost golden with incoming transfers and has only lost one meaningful player out, i believe, Stuckey Mosley, who is having a good year for a terrible james Madison team.
UT has another transfer in the program with spencer littleson from Michigan by way of Duquense. flashy scoring pg kinda with similar size and versatility to sanford. we'll see if he's ready to excel at this level next season.
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01-29-2018 04:49 AM |
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RE: Toledo basketball proving good enough to win MAC title
I heard CK mention on a sports radio (Bob Franz) that he and the Colorado head coach are close friends and told CK that Fletcher was a great kid etc and would contribute much.
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01-29-2018 08:36 AM |
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(01-29-2018 08:36 AM)UTDE Wrote: I heard CK mention on a sports radio (Bob Franz) that he and the Colorado head coach are close friends and told CK that Fletcher was a great kid etc and would contribute much.
Figured there was some coaching connection. Another plus to a coach is connections like this, someone that has made friends.
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