You can find people out there if you so choose. Plenty of people working the collusion angle. People that I read. People that I respect say don’t use it. Use conspiracy and obstruction.

(01-26-2018 10:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You can find people out there if you so choose. Plenty of people working the collusion angle. People that I read. People that I respect say don’t use it. Use conspiracy and obstruction.

Right...collusion is very hard to prove...and further, it's probably in all likelihood not criminal.

It became clear fairly quickly that trump tried to shut down the investigation...so naturally, any good investigator is going to follow that rabbit.

Not saying collusion won't ever be found or proven (actually I think it kinda already has) but what's ultimately going to bring this all crashing down is trumps insatiable urge to quash this by any means necessary.

(01-26-2018 09:36 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:16 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Missing FBI text messages..... and your serious about it you actually believe hook line and sinker in the secret society.


Hey here’s a car crash for you.....

Why the "lmfao" at the missing texts? Not interested in what's there? I thought you were in a constant and unstoppable quest of the truth?

You know they were able to recover the missing messages right? So they’re no longer missing and haven’t produced anything of substance to date.

(01-26-2018 10:06 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  I'm just wondering if anyone else sees the irony of laughing at Hannity since the word collusion long ago disappeared from Mach's vocabulary.

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove Officer Hoyt"


Why waste time on something that's hard to prove just by the very nature of it? I'm going to spend my time toiling fields that will produce a crop.

Translation: It's obvious that the Russian Collusion was bogus since the beginning so I'll act like I never believed in it and will now focus my energies on the next bogus anti-Trump witch hunt that can be manufactured.

(01-26-2018 10:51 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:36 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:16 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Missing FBI text messages..... and your serious about it you actually believe hook line and sinker in the secret society.


Hey here’s a car crash for you.....

Why the "lmfao" at the missing texts? Not interested in what's there? I thought you were in a constant and unstoppable quest of the truth?

You know they were able to recover the missing messages right? So they’re no longer missing and haven’t produced anything of substance to date.

To date? I believe we were told yesterday that they exist and are being recovered for review by investigators.

#notnervousatall

(01-26-2018 10:51 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:36 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:16 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Missing FBI text messages..... and your serious about it you actually believe hook line and sinker in the secret society.


Hey here’s a car crash for you.....

Why the "lmfao" at the missing texts? Not interested in what's there? I thought you were in a constant and unstoppable quest of the truth?

You know they were able to recover the missing messages right? So they’re no longer missing and haven’t produced anything of substance to date.

Nothing to date? Damn, and they've had minutes to go through 5 months of texts.

You do realize that the house and senate dont even have them yet? And they are probably going to need a bit long than a few minutes to go through them.

(01-26-2018 10:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:51 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:36 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:16 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Missing FBI text messages..... and your serious about it you actually believe hook line and sinker in the secret society.


Hey here’s a car crash for you.....

Why the "lmfao" at the missing texts? Not interested in what's there? I thought you were in a constant and unstoppable quest of the truth?

You know they were able to recover the missing messages right? So they’re no longer missing and haven’t produced anything of substance to date.

Nothing to date? Damn, and they've had minutes to go through 5 months of texts.

You do realize that the house and senate dont even have them yet? And they are probably going to need a bit long than a few minutes to go through them.

Yes that’s why I wrote to date, bc I’m more interested in actual facts they may produce as opposed to jumping to conspiracy conclusions.

That video is almost as funny as the dumb trumpbots on this board. Almost.

(01-26-2018 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You can find people out there if you so choose. Plenty of people working the collusion angle. People that I read. People that I respect say don’t use it. Use conspiracy and obstruction.

Right...collusion is very hard to prove...and further, it's probably in all likelihood not criminal.

It became clear fairly quickly that trump tried to shut down the investigation...so naturally, any good investigator is going to follow that rabbit.

Not saying collusion won't ever be found or proven (actually I think it kinda already has) but what's ultimately going to bring this all crashing down is trumps insatiable urge to quash this by any means necessary.

Zero evidence of collusion. In Fact, the biggest piece of evidence (Dossier) suggests the Democrats actually were colluding with a foreign power (that’s on top of rigging their own primary).

As for obstruction—I’d say that’s probably tougher to prove than collusion—especially if the whole basis for the prosecution is groundless. The basic question becomes—Obstruction of what? There is no crime.

No—I suspect we are heading into the final leg of Russia Russia Russia. It is soon to be replaced with the investigation of FISA and the Mueller overstepping, the illegal leaks, the ACTUAL obstruction of justice that occurred under Obama in the Hillary investigation, and the illegal monitoring of the Trump campaign where Obama effectively politically weaponized the US intelligence agencies like a Central American dictator.

(01-26-2018 10:51 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:06 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  I'm just wondering if anyone else sees the irony of laughing at Hannity since the word collusion long ago disappeared from Mach's vocabulary.

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove Officer Hoyt"


Why waste time on something that's hard to prove just by the very nature of it? I'm going to spend my time toiling fields that will produce a crop.

Translation: It's obvious that the Russian Collusion was bogus since the beginning so I'll act like I never believed in it and will now focus my energies on the next bogus anti-Trump witch hunt that can be manufactured.

A broken clock is right more often than this post. Holy Moly. I absolutely positively believe collusion happened. They would t have known who to target in their Facebook campaigns without some inside knowledge from the demographic side. how do you prove that though? It’s not like spies are in the tradecraft business to leave bread crumbs. Put in killer 7 people tied to the dossier too within in a month. How xonviently you all forget about that little loose nugget there too. You guys don’t want to know the truth. It’s not what you know it’s what you can prove. Read that sentence three times knuckleheads. That will let you know why I focus on conspiracy and obstruction. Much easier to prove.

Can someone find a way to embed just the video? Asking for a friend.

(01-26-2018 11:16 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You can find people out there if you so choose. Plenty of people working the collusion angle. People that I read. People that I respect say don’t use it. Use conspiracy and obstruction.

Right...collusion is very hard to prove...and further, it's probably in all likelihood not criminal.

It became clear fairly quickly that trump tried to shut down the investigation...so naturally, any good investigator is going to follow that rabbit.

Not saying collusion won't ever be found or proven (actually I think it kinda already has) but what's ultimately going to bring this all crashing down is trumps insatiable urge to quash this by any means necessary.

Zero evidence of collusion. In Fact, the biggest piece of evidence (Dossier) suggests the Democrats actually were colluding with a foreign power (that’s on top of rigging their own primary).

As for obstruction—I’d say that’s probably tougher to prove than collusion—especially if the whole basis for the prosecution is groundless. The basic question becomes—Obstruction of what? There is no crime.

No—I suspect we are heading into the final leg of Russia Russia Russia. It is soon to be replaced with the investigation of FISA and the Mueller overstepping, the illegal leaks, the ACTUAL obstruction of justice that occurred under Obama in the Hillary investigation, and the illegal monitoring of the Trump campaign where Obama effectively politically weaponized the US intelligence agencies like a Central American dictator.

From top to bottom, this.

Ok maybe he did try to fire Mueller.

Hey breaking news on this high speed chase out of Arizona.......


It’s THE Perfect metaphor for this board

(01-26-2018 11:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:51 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:06 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:43 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  I'm just wondering if anyone else sees the irony of laughing at Hannity since the word collusion long ago disappeared from Mach's vocabulary.

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove Officer Hoyt"


Why waste time on something that's hard to prove just by the very nature of it? I'm going to spend my time toiling fields that will produce a crop.

Translation: It's obvious that the Russian Collusion was bogus since the beginning so I'll act like I never believed in it and will now focus my energies on the next bogus anti-Trump witch hunt that can be manufactured.

A broken clock is right more often than this post. Holy Moly. I absolutely positively believe collusion happened. They would t have known who to target in their Facebook campaigns without some inside knowledge from the demographic side. how do you prove that though? It’s not like spies are in the tradecraft business to leave bread crumbs. Put in killer 7 people tied to the dossier too within in a month. How xonviently you all forget about that little loose nugget there too. You guys don’t want to know the truth. It’s not what you know it’s what you can prove. Read that sentence three times knuckleheads. That will let you know why I focus on conspiracy and obstruction. Much easier to prove.

Okay, someone else is going to have to translate that one, it's above my pay grade.

It's out of the Ragin Cajun's playbook.

BTW Mach, you've been toiling fields here for well over a year on these subjects. Can you point us to a single sprout?

Me thinks you’re going to be knee deep in vegetables in no time!! The harvest awaits.

(01-26-2018 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Me thinks you’re going to be knee deep in vegetables in no time!! The harvest awaits.

You promised us a hearty meal long ago. So far, nothingburgers.

(01-26-2018 11:40 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Me thinks you’re going to be knee deep in vegetables in no time!! The harvest awaits.

You promised us a hearty meal long ago. So far, nothingburgers.

lol, nice.

+3

(01-26-2018 11:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Can someone find a way to embed just the video? Asking for a friend.