Owl 69/70/75
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-25-2018 03:14 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 02:45 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 02:42 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 02:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote: Short-term, exactly. And that's all this is. By next year people will have forgotten about it.
that's only b/c you don't view long term solutions as viable.....DJT's strategy is deflect and contquer.....
there's no way to do that with one swipe o' pen......
this is a long term battle.....
obviously, in this instance, the corporations are continually figuring out 'confidence'.....
you're going to lose your base.....and you know it.....and so does washtubbytonnage now.....
they got their arse whipped by a guy that knew 'em all and how they played the game going in......
#bumbledhavebeenhumbled
Huh? I view long-term solutions as viable. This was just more of a long-term solution for corporate profits, and a short-term carrot for most citizens. People live for today, so they're happy with what they can get now, regardless of what happens next year. And they know that.
And I don't have a base. You think I run the Democratic party or something?
good goodness....I'll play this stupid game for now before my nap and hockey starts....
firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
I would say you’re not a centrist. I would also say that the impact of this is not a whole lot greater than rounding error considering what was already baked into the pie from the GWB and Obama years.
Bottom line—We’re not going to balance the budget without a consumption tax. Run all the numbers you want, there is no other way to get there.
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2018 05:50 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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b0ndsj0ns
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
The bonuses are great and I hope it's the start of real wages rising across the board.
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NIU007
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-25-2018 05:48 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: The bonuses are great and I hope it's the start of real wages rising across the board.
I hope you're right. Just not holding my breath. So far my company has not said anything about increasing our bonuses.
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-25-2018 12:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 12:37 PM)Niner National Wrote: $1000 doesn't go a long way, but it goes $1000 farther than $0.
it buys #morale
the dippos simply want everyone else to be miserable like dems....
Miserable people are easier to control. A strong, self reliant people are kryptonite to the Democrats.
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
Demorats praised the Obama stimulus money which was barely even seen in paychecks..but..now are poo-pooing this? Pure and simple TDS.
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
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I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
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Stinky, that's because more and more they find themselves crying all the way to the bank. It's hard criticizing a position that's putting money in your wallet. And that goes a million times for rich Libturds that vote Demoncrap.
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stinkfist
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-26-2018 02:05 PM)olliebaba Wrote: firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
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I think nearly every liberal thinks they are centrists or moderate. It’s an interesting phenomenon.
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Stinky, that's because more and more they find themselves crying all the way to the bank. It's hard criticizing a position that's putting money in your wallet. And that goes a million times for rich Libturds that vote Demoncrap.
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this is the battle ollie....it's truly the fight to keep the USD solvent......
I know I don't want to have to start killing people for land and food....but I will....
this is simple shite....
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NIU007
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-26-2018 02:55 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-26-2018 12:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:14 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 02:45 PM)NIU007 Wrote: Huh? I view long-term solutions as viable. This was just more of a long-term solution for corporate profits, and a short-term carrot for most citizens. People live for today, so they're happy with what they can get now, regardless of what happens next year. And they know that.
And I don't have a base. You think I run the Democratic party or something?
good goodness....I'll play this stupid game for now before my nap and hockey starts....
firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
I think nearly every liberal thinks they are centrists or moderate. It’s an interesting phenomenon.
Every conservative thinks the same thing.
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NIU007
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-26-2018 02:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:14 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 02:45 PM)NIU007 Wrote: Huh? I view long-term solutions as viable. This was just more of a long-term solution for corporate profits, and a short-term carrot for most citizens. People live for today, so they're happy with what they can get now, regardless of what happens next year. And they know that.
And I don't have a base. You think I run the Democratic party or something?
good goodness....I'll play this stupid game for now before my nap and hockey starts....
firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
care to share that trend line statistical data or keep wiping your arse to nose with it.....
I'm not doing your due.....
recent GDP numbers scream "bullshite" vs. the last 8 yrs.....
lowering the corporate tax rate was easily priced in starting around July.....
what's really interesting is all the indices continue to rise w/o some ponzi scheme in place.....
money knows money......
let's see what you know....
All you have to do is look at a chart for the S&P 500 or Nasdaq or other market. It isn't hard to see.
do I get a clue on your timeline or are you going to continue to toss out bs.....
I can tell you this off the top of my head....the nasdaq/dow ratio has narrowed from historical valuations.....that does make me a tad nervous in valuation....
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Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-25-2018 12:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (01-25-2018 12:37 PM)Niner National Wrote: $1000 doesn't go a long way, but it goes $1000 farther than $0.
The point, for me, is that while nice this is not a long term solution for the workers. A permanent pay raise is much more beneficial. Additionally, with the bonus withholding rules they're only going to net around $650.
So decline it right? Or maybe donate it? I’m sure the local food pantry can stretch another 650$ a looong way.
There, your problem is solved...
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-26-2018 03:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (01-25-2018 12:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (01-25-2018 12:37 PM)Niner National Wrote: $1000 doesn't go a long way, but it goes $1000 farther than $0.
The point, for me, is that while nice this is not a long term solution for the workers. A permanent pay raise is much more beneficial. Additionally, with the bonus withholding rules they're only going to net around $650.
So decline it right? Or maybe donate it? I’m sure the local food pantry can stretch another 650$ a looong way.
There, your problem is solved...
WTF are you babbling about? We're analyzing the situation...that bonuses alone to a small percentage of Americans isn't going to move the needle. Stop being a drama queen.
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NIU007
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-26-2018 03:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-26-2018 02:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:14 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote: good goodness....I'll play this stupid game for now before my nap and hockey starts....
firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
care to share that trend line statistical data or keep wiping your arse to nose with it.....
I'm not doing your due.....
recent GDP numbers scream "bullshite" vs. the last 8 yrs.....
lowering the corporate tax rate was easily priced in starting around July.....
what's really interesting is all the indices continue to rise w/o some ponzi scheme in place.....
money knows money......
let's see what you know....
All you have to do is look at a chart for the S&P 500 or Nasdaq or other market. It isn't hard to see.
do I get a clue on your timeline or are you going to continue to toss out bs.....
I can tell you this off the top of my head....the nasdaq/dow ratio has narrowed from historical valuations.....that does make me a tad nervous in valuation....
Just look at any market index chart starting in around 2008 up until now. If you think that's bs I don't know what planet you've been living on. Of course it dropped around 2008 so it was naturally going to go up some. Just saying that this stock market rise didn't magically kick in in 2016.
I agree the valuations look high - the more I look at it, the more it looks like a market bubble.
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-25-2018 04:48 PM)shere khan Wrote: (01-25-2018 12:00 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 11:57 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: She needs to get caught up in whatever sweep occurs.
she once drove the bus.....
Throwd clear.
I take it DSW must have landed on her face?
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Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-25-2018 05:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 05:48 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: The bonuses are great and I hope it's the start of real wages rising across the board.
I hope you're right. Just not holding my breath. So far my company has not said anything about increasing our bonuses.
Well, wouldn’t you just moan that it wasn’t enough anyway?
Why would they?
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Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
(01-26-2018 02:55 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-26-2018 12:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:14 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (01-25-2018 03:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (01-25-2018 02:45 PM)NIU007 Wrote: Huh? I view long-term solutions as viable. This was just more of a long-term solution for corporate profits, and a short-term carrot for most citizens. People live for today, so they're happy with what they can get now, regardless of what happens next year. And they know that.
And I don't have a base. You think I run the Democratic party or something?
good goodness....I'll play this stupid game for now before my nap and hockey starts....
firstly, you are a leftist.....don't give me that bs....
so if revenue remains stagnant, what happens next???
your turn....
I would say I'm a centrist. What is this tax plan going to do to the national debt? Now we don't care? Companies were doing well for the past 10 years. I have a Value Line survey showing all the positive results for most of the 1,000+ companies. Are we really going to get enough growth on top of all this to pay for that? Even most economists probably disagree with that.
I think nearly every liberal thinks they are centrists or moderate. It’s an interesting phenomenon.
Every conservative thinks the same thing.
Nope. Not this guy. Proud Constitutional Conservative.
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RE: Why are the peasants so excited about $1000
Dems gave them Obama Phones and Free Healthcare
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