(01-26-2018 10:46 AM)billymac Wrote:  The call has been for the CAA to get some of the up and coming "youngsters" into our officiating ranks. That will only happen by getting them time, with a senior official, out on our courts.

No disagreement at all on the need to break in new officials. I do think, however, that it makes more sense to break in just one new official at a time. So, one senior official, one medium (journeyman) official, and one rookie official seems best to me. Putting two rookies out there is asking for inconsistency.

(01-26-2018 12:38 PM)billymac Wrote:  Has anyone else experienced making a post, but it doesn't show up until another post is made after it?

It happened to me, today and I saw it happened to TITB yesterday or the day before.

Just curious.

Okay, this is weird. My first answer was to say that I see that all the time and it generally denotes that someone else is writing a post at the same time as I am and that they hit "send" first However, just minutes ago, I did send a reply post to a different Billymac post. It said it went and that it would take me to the post. But instead it took me to the first post in the thread. Then I went back to "William & Mary" to see all the threads and on that thread it says that the last post is from Zorch. But when I click on that "Last Post", again it takes me to the first post in the thread. My assumption is that if I leave the site completely and then come back that it will show things normally. That seems to match what Billymac is asking about.

*** Edit -- okay, as soon as I sent this one it showed me this one and also the Zorch post immediately above that I had been unable to see. So, yes, Billymac, this seems to be a systems issue. ****

*** Second Edit -- Notice that both posts are post # 433. That is not the first time that has happened to me, too, and, in fact, once it posted but did not 'count' about 5 consecutive posts. (I never complained about it because, really, who cares how many posts it shows?).

(01-26-2018 12:38 PM)billymac Wrote:  Has anyone else experienced making a post, but it doesn't show up until another post is made after it?


It happened to me, today and I saw it happened to TITB yesterday or the day before.

Just curious.

Yeah, definitely happened to me. Thankfully, when I tried to post it again I got a warning that I had already submitted the exact same post. I didn't realize it showed only after another post had been made, my post was when not many were on. :)

(01-26-2018 05:26 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Sorry for the complaining about the referees. It was just hard in the moment of a great team effort as a long time fan to see the calls swing so much in their favor. I'll admit that I had past Towson experiences of them going over our backs and consistently hacking us. Their play is always hard, but not dirty. In past years, their goal offensively was merely to shoot at the rim and then outwork for the rebound and follow up. I'll admit that this year's team is much more gifted offensively than the teams of the past for them. It is certainly not Coach Skerry's job to call fouls on his own team, either. I have not watched much of their games other than ours and the one against UNCW last week. Based on what I have personally witnessed, I am shocked they are only 5-4. Traditionally, their style has been problematic for us, especially on the boards. That is why when the shot better than we did last night, and we basically won the rebounding battle, I knew it was a great opportunity for us to get a huge win for the program. But, we are still in a great position starting the 2nd half of the conference season. Next time, I might wait at least 10-15 minutes before I post my frustration and it might get better.

The problem they have is that their physical style is very dependent on referees. If it's a tightly called game, Towson can get completely thrown out of whack. Similar to our reliance on the 3 ball. If it's not falling, we're at a big disadvantage.

(01-26-2018 08:21 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 12:38 PM)billymac Wrote:  Has anyone else experienced making a post, but it doesn't show up until another post is made after it?


It happened to me, today and I saw it happened to TITB yesterday or the day before.

Just curious.

Yeah, definitely happened to me. Thankfully, when I tried to post it again I got a warning that I had already submitted the exact same post. I didn't realize it showed only after another post had been made, my post was when not many were on. :)

Yeah, I generally notice who the "last reply" is from (shows on the right end of the thread). That's how I first noticed that TITB's post was not the last post. Then when I posted on the same thread, it showed up with mine. So, when my post on this thread didn't show up (went to the first page, like it did Zorch), I did a test post and, sure enough, they both showed up at once.

Strange indeed.

Officials were awful and, at least in my opinion, cost us the game with the remarkable disparity between the foul calls against us and Towson. It was a very physical game on both sides, yet we all saw the non-calls on Towson.

Let's not forget that all refs in CAA games come from the ACC-CAA referee pool...however, I'm of the opinion the ACC never gets these younger "developing" refs out of that pool. I'm betting Tony (and perhaps Samantha Huge as she was at the game) submitted scathing reviews to the CAA office.

I rarely complain about officiating---all refs, including the best, make stunningly poor calls or non-calls from time to time that dramatically effect games and the coaches live with that---but these two yahoos on Thursday made a year's worth, mainly against us, in that Towson game.

(01-27-2018 06:43 AM)BigTribe3 Wrote:  Let's not forget that all refs in CAA games come from the ACC-CAA referee pool...however, I'm of the opinion the ACC never gets these younger "developing" refs out of that pool.

A while back (and since time flies, this could be 15-20 years ago now), the CAA had a different pool of refs from the ACC. The CAA refs were good, young, up-and-comers and the ACC wanted access to them. So the ACC entered into an agreement with the CAA to share refs equally, Of course, what really happened is that the ACC had access to the best CAA refs while the CAA had access to the best ACC refs on only rare, sporadic occasions. Of course, life being what it is and if you were a ref would you rather work for the ACC or the CAA, all the best CAA refs wound up being absorbed into the ACC.

So, if the CAA and ACC are actually sharing refs now, then why are the refs so routinely bad (so it seems) in practically every W&M game? (I don't watch enough non-W&M CAA games to make any judgments on officials in those games).

If someone had a lot of time on his/her hands, a check of officials’ names in the box scores over this year’s games would show exactly how much “sharing” is happening.

Not volunteering.

Regarding unusual post behavior:

http://csnbbs.com/announcement-336.html