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Anybody following NCAA transfer rules talking points? If this goes thru as expected it makes all students free agents , no sit out period if they pass grades. NCAA had been dodging transfer lawsuits recently and looks like they are throwing in the towel.

Let the madness begin... loyalty to a program is going to be stressed... and opens up an entire new set of problems with coaching staffs openly poaching players from other programs...

This is going to suck.

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A sell-out to P5.

It will be interesting, however, to see the Indiana's and Vandy's poach valued back-ups from the Ohio State's and Alabama's.

Of course, the raid & rape of G5 programs will be merciless and unapologetic.

This sounds like a terrible idea. Does this mean that as soon as a player finds a modicum of success at the G5 level, he can immediately transfer to a P5 program?

I can't believe what a mess this could be.

https://pistolsfiringblog.com/ncaa-trans...igibility/



This is not a proposal. Just something being talked about. Multiple G5 coaches concerned about a freshman having a big year and a P5 school coming in to take him.

— Chris Vannini (@ChrisVannini) January 9, 2018

Does any of this help a student-athlete's academics, which should always remain the #1 focus?

Or are we yet again putting the athlete in front of the student in 'student-athlete'?

remember, it's all about the student athlete

The NFLification could be complete. The kids would get a payday by transferring too. We would truly only be rooting for a jersey color instead of an institution. Why must we destroy every institution?

As much as it could suck for us, I'm all for it. Why should someone be forced to stall their career because they want a change of scenery? It's an arbitrary rule by the NCAA and its about time student athletes get some more rights.

Gonna make coaches' jobs more difficult, you'll have to constantly recruit your own players. However along with the possibility of losing players, it may become easier to land talented transfers who are victim of a stacked depth chart at a high level program.

(01-18-2018 01:56 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  This sounds like a terrible idea. Does this mean that as soon as a player finds a modicum of success at the G5 level, he can immediately transfer to a P5 program?

I can't believe what a mess this could be.

On the flip side, WMU and other G5 programs can raid the middle of P5 depth charts for talented and highly ranked recruits seeking immediate playing time.

(01-19-2018 01:33 AM)tayles mullet Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 01:56 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  This sounds like a terrible idea. Does this mean that as soon as a player finds a modicum of success at the G5 level, he can immediately transfer to a P5 program?

I can't believe what a mess this could be.

On the flip side, WMU and other G5 programs can raid the middle of P5 depth charts for talented and highly ranked recruits seeking immediate playing time.

Yeah, that sounds fun. A 50+% turnover in the roster every year.

Makes a total joke out of the idea of student athlete.

If college ball is just an entertainment operation this makes great sense, but for those who are in it for the college experience and an education it is complete bull.

Frustrating.

This is giving more freedom to the student athlete, which is a good thing in my opinion. Maybe it will stop the sleazy millionaire coaches from making empty promises of playing time just to get a kid to sign.

For me personally, if a kid doesn't want to be at WMU, i say good luck and get the hell out!

I do not like the rule and feel there should be some limitations to it such as you can leave freely after a freshmen or sophomore year, if you do not feel you "fit", or limit how many transfers a coach can have in a year, but it could help with some recruiting. The chips seem to like going after 5th year transfers, now they can go after 1st years too and that could help to build up a program if that is your recruiting philosophy (not mine). I still feel it is best to bring in young men and develop them in your program for 4-5 years.

I think the NCAA should also make sure they have some compliance and eyes on schools to make sure the are not forcing, or "Pushing" players they recruited as freshmen out of their program so they can bring in a transfer to take their spot. Could also scare some freshmen away from big schools if they see a coach continues to poach from other schools and bring in upperclassmen from other schools that will bury them. It could become a slippery slope for some kids.

I am sure some programs may look to build up a "minor league" and push top recruits to a specific mid major for 2 years to get some playing time then transfer after 2 years, but that could come back to bite a coach in the ass and lead to turnover for the coaches.

I think for our coaches, who appear to make a good impression and wish players the best if they choose another school, you may find that some very talented young men that we close on, choose the "big" school and after a year or two decide the opportunity at Western or another smaller school may be better. It makes those relationships you make in recruiting more important and i think Lester and staff do a good job with that.

For example. It sounds like we have a great 4 star prospect in this weekend and i would love to see him "take the reigns" and stay close to home, but if he does choose Nebraska and feels after a year that he wants to come back home, we can be waiting with open arms. It gives more reason to recruit some of those 4 star local kids that people think you are wasting your time on.

I a sure we will loose some high end kids in the process, but i feel more high 3 star or 4 stars will jump at a chance at a winning program like western if they get stuck behind some underclassmen at U of M or MSU. And then you just hope our coaches can continue to recruit character and players like Davis, Franklin and Phillips decide to stick it out for their 4-5 years

Does anyone really believe the NCAA could monitor an open door transfer policy like the suggestion.
It has already been proven the NCAA cant handle all the under the table dollars in basketball recruiting.
Under the table dollars in football transfers would be overwhelming.

Southern Ill coach had interesting take, "mid major BB is history"

(01-19-2018 01:35 PM)BuickBronco Wrote:  Southern Ill coach had interesting take, "mid major BB is history"

It's true. This rule would crush mid-majors in college football & basketball.

Corey Davis went to WMU because PJ was the only one willing to offer him a scholarship. WMU was rewarded for taking a chance on that kid. If this rule passes, the big successes like Corey Davis will result in a kid transferring to a bigger school & ultimately penalizing them. And the kids that don't work out will also penalize them. Lose/Lose scenario for MAC schools.

Horrible rule. Another step toward destruction of athletics in G5 schools and enriching P5 Conferences.

(01-19-2018 04:44 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(01-19-2018 01:35 PM)BuickBronco Wrote:  Southern Ill coach had interesting take, "mid major BB is history"

It's true. This rule would crush mid-majors in college football & basketball.

Corey Davis went to WMU because PJ was the only one willing to offer him a scholarship. WMU was rewarded for taking a chance on that kid. If this rule passes, the big successes like Corey Davis will result in a kid transferring to a bigger school & ultimately penalizing them. And the kids that don't work out will also penalize them. Lose/Lose scenario for MAC schools.

I don't see this happening as much if you really climb into the mind of the particular athlete... Once Corey started to show the world what he was about, his commitment to his teammates was deep... I can't see many athletes who are getting great playing time and are showing out their talents at a G5 just packing up and leaving for the opportunity to play for a p5 where the play time isn't guaranteed...

Now if you have a G5 or even a P5 where the depth at a particular spot logjams and a great athlete is buried and not playing... they may want to check out their options at another University...

I can see where this is protecting the athlete... especially when a coach leaves that recruited you... thank the god above that this wasn't passed before PJ left or we might have not had a team to field last year...