(01-18-2018 10:28 AM)fsquid Wrote:  WSU first conference loss in 2 years and first home conference loss since 2012

That won’t be their only loss.

(01-18-2018 01:03 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:04 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 11:32 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 11:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  And, IMO, this is the weakest the American has been since formation. 2 teams unless an huge upset in conference tourney or SMU finishes with a great run.

Disagree, think AAC gets 3 in. Think SMU will get a bid. Beat #2 Arizona and now at #7 Wichita State - committee loves those top 10 wins. No bad losses - 2 by 2 points and 2 by 3 points, plus at now #11 Cincy and at #20 at the time TCU.

AZ not top 10 but first 2 weeks. They lost to Tulane and Tulsa. Probably will finish with 10-11 losses. They will not be cut the slack that some schools get. So I think they will finish in last four out or close.

SMU beat Arizona on a neutral court when Zona was #2. It's why Zona was no longer #2.

But you are right that SMU will have to keep winning at a decent clip.

They also beat then ranked #14 USC

Thank you, 1016. I was dealing with Mr. Obedient last night, and didn't pull up SMU's schedule. Have watched them a couple of times, and SMU is pretty good.

Looking at the schedule, and we only play SMU once this year. Away game on Valentine's day. So another opportunity for a good win.

(01-18-2018 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 01:03 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:04 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 11:32 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Disagree, think AAC gets 3 in. Think SMU will get a bid. Beat #2 Arizona and now at #7 Wichita State - committee loves those top 10 wins. No bad losses - 2 by 2 points and 2 by 3 points, plus at now #11 Cincy and at #20 at the time TCU.

AZ not top 10 but first 2 weeks. They lost to Tulane and Tulsa. Probably will finish with 10-11 losses. They will not be cut the slack that some schools get. So I think they will finish in last four out or close.

SMU beat Arizona on a neutral court when Zona was #2. It's why Zona was no longer #2.

But you are right that SMU will have to keep winning at a decent clip.

They also beat then ranked #14 USC

Thank you, 1016. I was dealing with Mr. Obedient last night, and didn't pull up SMU's schedule. Have watched them a couple of times, and SMU is pretty good.

Looking at the schedule, and we only play SMU once this year. Home game on Valentine's day. So another opportunity for a good win.

The SMU game is an away game.

(01-18-2018 10:57 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 01:03 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:04 AM)Shooters Wrote:  AZ not top 10 but first 2 weeks. They lost to Tulane and Tulsa. Probably will finish with 10-11 losses. They will not be cut the slack that some schools get. So I think they will finish in last four out or close.

SMU beat Arizona on a neutral court when Zona was #2. It's why Zona was no longer #2.

But you are right that SMU will have to keep winning at a decent clip.

They also beat then ranked #14 USC

Thank you, 1016. I was dealing with Mr. Obedient last night, and didn't pull up SMU's schedule. Have watched them a couple of times, and SMU is pretty good.

Looking at the schedule, and we only play SMU once this year. Away game on Valentine's day. So another opportunity for a good win.

The SMU game is an away game.

Thank you. Sorry. Was looking at the SMU schedule, and of course it's their home game, hence my error.

(01-18-2018 10:57 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 01:03 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:04 AM)Shooters Wrote:  AZ not top 10 but first 2 weeks. They lost to Tulane and Tulsa. Probably will finish with 10-11 losses. They will not be cut the slack that some schools get. So I think they will finish in last four out or close.

SMU beat Arizona on a neutral court when Zona was #2. It's why Zona was no longer #2.

But you are right that SMU will have to keep winning at a decent clip.

They also beat then ranked #14 USC

Thank you, 1016. I was dealing with Mr. Obedient last night, and didn't pull up SMU's schedule. Have watched them a couple of times, and SMU is pretty good.

Looking at the schedule, and we only play SMU once this year. Home game on Valentine's day. So another opportunity for a good win.

The SMU game is an away game.

And the computers have it as the least likely game we win the rest of the year

(01-18-2018 10:59 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 10:57 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 01:03 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  SMU beat Arizona on a neutral court when Zona was #2. It's why Zona was no longer #2.

But you are right that SMU will have to keep winning at a decent clip.

They also beat then ranked #14 USC

Thank you, 1016. I was dealing with Mr. Obedient last night, and didn't pull up SMU's schedule. Have watched them a couple of times, and SMU is pretty good.

Looking at the schedule, and we only play SMU once this year. Home game on Valentine's day. So another opportunity for a good win.

The SMU game is an away game.

And the computers have it as the least likely game we win the rest of the year

It certainly won’t be easy. They did lose a guard last night to injury. I think the guy was averaging 14 to 15. However, it didn’t prevent them from beating Wichita St.

(01-18-2018 10:59 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 10:57 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 10:53 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 01:03 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 12:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  SMU beat Arizona on a neutral court when Zona was #2. It's why Zona was no longer #2.

But you are right that SMU will have to keep winning at a decent clip.

They also beat then ranked #14 USC

Thank you, 1016. I was dealing with Mr. Obedient last night, and didn't pull up SMU's schedule. Have watched them a couple of times, and SMU is pretty good.

Looking at the schedule, and we only play SMU once this year. Away game on Valentine's day. So another opportunity for a good win.

The SMU game is an away game.

Thank you. Sorry. Was looking at the SMU schedule, and of course it's their home game, hence my error.

What will WSU do when Gregg Marshall goes to Louisville?

(01-18-2018 11:33 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  What will WSU do when Gregg Marshall goes to Louisville?

Do what we did when we lost Cal.

(01-18-2018 11:24 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:33 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  What will WSU do when Gregg Marshall goes to Louisville?

Do what we did when we lost Cal.

If it happened, it wouldn’t be a comparable situation in any way other than coach left for a better program.

WSU still has to play: @Houston, @Memphis, @Cincy, @Temple, and @SMU...I feel like they have another L coming somewhere down the line.

(01-18-2018 11:34 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:24 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:33 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  What will WSU do when Gregg Marshall goes to Louisville?

Do what we did when we lost Cal.

If it happened, it wouldn’t be a comparable situation in any way other than coach left for a better program.

My point is they drop off big time. If Marshall left, their program is going to go down. How far I don’t know. But they won’t continue dominating. Now maybe they won’t drop like we did, but they will drop. Maybe they do a better job of hiring than we did. Heck, they’re already seeing life is tougher for them in the aac. They aren’t through losing this year.

(01-18-2018 11:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  WSU still has to play: @Houston, @Memphis, @Cincy, @Temple, and @SMU...I feel like they have another L coming somewhere down the line.

Make that at least two more. This isn’t that baby conference they came from where they went through their league like a hot knife through butter.

(01-18-2018 11:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  WSU still has to play: @Houston, @Memphis, @Cincy, @Temple, and @SMU...I feel like they have another L coming somewhere down the line.

I think they play Cincinnati twice.

(01-18-2018 11:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  WSU still has to play: @Houston, @Memphis, @Cincy, @Temple, and @SMU...I feel like they have another L coming somewhere down the line.

Man. Good info. That is a back-loaded conference road schedule.

WSU is beatable. However, WSU is now a NCAA Tourney lock and we currently are on the NIT bubble (maybe). At this date, I would rather be in WSU’s position than our position.

(01-19-2018 08:03 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU is beatable. However, WSU is now a NCAA Tourney lock and we currently are on the NIT bubble (maybe). At this date, I would rather be in WSU’s position than our position.

Thank you for stating the obvious

(01-18-2018 11:33 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  What will WSU do when Gregg Marshall goes to Louisville?

Will WSU be on probation?

(01-18-2018 11:41 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:34 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:24 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:33 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  What will WSU do when Gregg Marshall goes to Louisville?

Do what we did when we lost Cal.

If it happened, it wouldn’t be a comparable situation in any way other than coach left for a better program.

My point is they drop off big time. If Marshall left, their program is going to go down. How far I don’t know. But they won’t continue dominating. Now maybe they won’t drop like we did, but they will drop. Maybe they do a better job of hiring than we did. Heck, they’re already seeing life is tougher for them in the aac. They aren’t through losing this year.

When Cal left the drop off was obvious, obviously, lol. But for awhile there we still made the tourney and had some good teams. I don't think Wichita will do any better than that if Marshall leaves. In fact, I suspect they'll do worse.