(01-17-2018 04:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Giannotto and Calkins mentioned this on their podcast. Said Markel isn't doing so well - and that it goes to show the grass is not always greener. Just because you leave, it doesn't mean your numbers will go up or you will go to a more successful team. Made me think and research...

Over the past 4 years (when our transfer problem really kicked-in), we've had 17 transfers. 4 of those are currently sitting out, so it's hard to include them in this analysis:

Only 2 of the 13 experienced the NCAA tourney at their new schools - Avery Woodson and Iverson. (Will become 4 of 17 if the Lawsons go to the NCAA with KU next year.)

While 5 actually experienced their only NCAA tourneys at Memphis - Dom Woodson, Damien Wilson, Austin, Pookie, and Nick.

Only 3 experienced abnormal leaps in (D1) stats at their new schools. Wilson, Pookie, and Nick (just this year). Maybe you include Kuran, although we didn't get a good look during his (only) frosh year.

Only 3 of the 17 landed at traditionally strong programs - Austin and the Lawsons.

While 4 transferred out of D1 altogether - Rykhoek, Marshall, Cunningham, Hawkins.

Indeed, there are always a lot of factors in play with transfers. And it has become easier and acceptable to transfer. But there is a story here for some of these kids who think it will solve all their problems.

Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

Has nothing to do with anything (other than your affinity to the SEC). The point about Markel was it supposedly was to improve his NCAA chances, and that has not happened.

Personally, I don't care. Wish he had stayed, but I'm not going to judge based on how the season ended and the transition in the program. Just pointing out the MG and GC are correct - the grass is not always greener, so think hard.

So the FACT that his numbers are down and that in most of his games he is playing against better players than he played against last year 'Has nothing to do with anything'. That shows a very low IQ, a very low level ability to turn data into information and the inability to live in the real world. I hope you didn't graduate from Memphis. That would be a disgrace to the University.

Uh oh.

Again just bc you don’t have the same numbers doesn’t mean you aren’t happier where you are. Can MG and GC say that number wise it’s not looking as good? Absolutely. But you can’t get into Crawford head and assume he isn’t happy bc his numbers aren’t where they were last year.

(01-17-2018 07:10 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  Again just bc you don’t have the same numbers doesn’t mean you aren’t happier where you are. Can MG and GC say that number wise it’s not looking as good? Absolutely. But you can’t get into Crawford head and assume he isn’t happy bc his numbers aren’t where they were last year.

Exactly. It could be Andy Kennedy is grateful for Crawford being there and treats him better than the HOF obedience master.

(01-17-2018 07:15 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 07:10 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  Again just bc you don’t have the same numbers doesn’t mean you aren’t happier where you are. Can MG and GC say that number wise it’s not looking as good? Absolutely. But you can’t get into Crawford head and assume he isn’t happy bc his numbers aren’t where they were last year.

Exactly. It could be Andy Kennedy is grateful for Crawford being there and treats him better than the HOF obedience master.

As time goes by, the ever shifting sands move and move.....taking the goal post with them...

There is no way Crawford can be really happy. One of the reasons he left was to have the opportunity to play in the NCAA. That doesn't appear to be happening for him.

(01-17-2018 04:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Giannotto and Calkins mentioned this on their podcast. Said Markel isn't doing so well - and that it goes to show the grass is not always greener. Just because you leave, it doesn't mean your numbers will go up or you will go to a more successful team. Made me think and research...

Over the past 4 years (when our transfer problem really kicked-in), we've had 17 transfers. 4 of those are currently sitting out, so it's hard to include them in this analysis:

Only 2 of the 13 experienced the NCAA tourney at their new schools - Avery Woodson and Iverson. (Will become 4 of 17 if the Lawsons go to the NCAA with KU next year.)

While 5 actually experienced their only NCAA tourneys at Memphis - Dom Woodson, Damien Wilson, Austin, Pookie, and Nick.

Only 3 experienced abnormal leaps in (D1) stats at their new schools. Wilson, Pookie, and Nick (just this year). Maybe you include Kuran, although we didn't get a good look during his (only) frosh year.

Only 3 of the 17 landed at traditionally strong programs - Austin and the Lawsons.

While 4 transferred out of D1 altogether - Rykhoek, Marshall, Cunningham, Hawkins.

Indeed, there are always a lot of factors in play with transfers. And it has become easier and acceptable to transfer. But there is a story here for some of these kids who think it will solve all their problems.

Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

Has nothing to do with anything (other than your affinity to the SEC). The point about Markel was it supposedly was to improve his NCAA chances, and that has not happened.

Personally, I don't care. Wish he had stayed, but I'm not going to judge based on how the season ended and the transition in the program. Just pointing out the MG and GC are correct - the grass is not always greener, so think hard.

So the FACT that his numbers are down and that in most of his games he is playing against better players than he played against last year 'Has nothing to do with anything'. That shows a very low IQ, a very low level ability to turn data into information and the inability to live in the real world. I hope you didn't graduate from Memphis. That would be a disgrace to the University.

If you think the SEC is so much better, check out the following:

https://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/...ament.aspx




It shows the NCAA tournament performance by conference-about as good a gauge we are going to get in comparing conferences, AAC consistently outperforms the SEC.

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Giannotto and Calkins mentioned this on their podcast. Said Markel isn't doing so well - and that it goes to show the grass is not always greener. Just because you leave, it doesn't mean your numbers will go up or you will go to a more successful team. Made me think and research...

Over the past 4 years (when our transfer problem really kicked-in), we've had 17 transfers. 4 of those are currently sitting out, so it's hard to include them in this analysis:

Only 2 of the 13 experienced the NCAA tourney at their new schools - Avery Woodson and Iverson. (Will become 4 of 17 if the Lawsons go to the NCAA with KU next year.)

While 5 actually experienced their only NCAA tourneys at Memphis - Dom Woodson, Damien Wilson, Austin, Pookie, and Nick.

Only 3 experienced abnormal leaps in (D1) stats at their new schools. Wilson, Pookie, and Nick (just this year). Maybe you include Kuran, although we didn't get a good look during his (only) frosh year.

Only 3 of the 17 landed at traditionally strong programs - Austin and the Lawsons.

While 4 transferred out of D1 altogether - Rykhoek, Marshall, Cunningham, Hawkins.

Indeed, there are always a lot of factors in play with transfers. And it has become easier and acceptable to transfer. But there is a story here for some of these kids who think it will solve all their problems.

Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

you are right , I did mistype bootlickers on my phone -

you latest post showed my content was accurate even if my typing was not.

Markel had a rough life from my limited understanding. He took some advice and tried to beyter himself. I'll leave it at that and wish him well.

(01-17-2018 08:24 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Markel had a rough life from my limited understanding. He took some advice and tried to beyter himself. I'll leave it at that and wish him well.

I think it was a reasonable decision, I just would have been more selective when I picked a team.

Honestly, after the Lawson’s left, I preferred using Markel’s minutes for the new players.

(01-17-2018 08:48 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 08:24 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Markel had a rough life from my limited understanding. He took some advice and tried to beyter himself. I'll leave it at that and wish him well.

I think it was a reasonable decision, I just would have been more selective when I picked a team.

Honestly, after the Lawson’s left, I preferred using Markel’s minutes for the new players.

It's all a game. Or should be anyway.

(01-17-2018 08:57 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 08:48 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 08:24 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Markel had a rough life from my limited understanding. He took some advice and tried to beyter himself. I'll leave it at that and wish him well.

I think it was a reasonable decision, I just would have been more selective when I picked a team.

Honestly, after the Lawson’s left, I preferred using Markel’s minutes for the new players.

It's all a game. Or should be anyway.

You’re right about that. Wish Markel the best...

(01-17-2018 08:06 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Giannotto and Calkins mentioned this on their podcast. Said Markel isn't doing so well - and that it goes to show the grass is not always greener. Just because you leave, it doesn't mean your numbers will go up or you will go to a more successful team. Made me think and research...

Over the past 4 years (when our transfer problem really kicked-in), we've had 17 transfers. 4 of those are currently sitting out, so it's hard to include them in this analysis:

Only 2 of the 13 experienced the NCAA tourney at their new schools - Avery Woodson and Iverson. (Will become 4 of 17 if the Lawsons go to the NCAA with KU next year.)

While 5 actually experienced their only NCAA tourneys at Memphis - Dom Woodson, Damien Wilson, Austin, Pookie, and Nick.

Only 3 experienced abnormal leaps in (D1) stats at their new schools. Wilson, Pookie, and Nick (just this year). Maybe you include Kuran, although we didn't get a good look during his (only) frosh year.

Only 3 of the 17 landed at traditionally strong programs - Austin and the Lawsons.

While 4 transferred out of D1 altogether - Rykhoek, Marshall, Cunningham, Hawkins.

Indeed, there are always a lot of factors in play with transfers. And it has become easier and acceptable to transfer. But there is a story here for some of these kids who think it will solve all their problems.

Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

Has nothing to do with anything (other than your affinity to the SEC). The point about Markel was it supposedly was to improve his NCAA chances, and that has not happened.

Personally, I don't care. Wish he had stayed, but I'm not going to judge based on how the season ended and the transition in the program. Just pointing out the MG and GC are correct - the grass is not always greener, so think hard.

So the FACT that his numbers are down and that in most of his games he is playing against better players than he played against last year 'Has nothing to do with anything'. That shows a very low IQ, a very low level ability to turn data into information and the inability to live in the real world. I hope you didn't graduate from Memphis. That would be a disgrace to the University.

If you think the SEC is so much better, check out the following:

https://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/...ament.aspx




It shows the NCAA tournament performance by conference-about as good a gauge we are going to get in comparing conferences, AAC consistently outperforms the SEC.

If you think the competition in the AAC is better than the SEC that is ok with me. Doesn't mean I don't love the Tigers.

I will never understand why he chose Ole Miss. No matter what a handful of people seem to think, Andy Kennedy is not a good coach. In fact, I think he is pretty bad.

(01-17-2018 04:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Giannotto and Calkins mentioned this on their podcast. Said Markel isn't doing so well - and that it goes to show the grass is not always greener. Just because you leave, it doesn't mean your numbers will go up or you will go to a more successful team. Made me think and research...

Over the past 4 years (when our transfer problem really kicked-in), we've had 17 transfers. 4 of those are currently sitting out, so it's hard to include them in this analysis:

Only 2 of the 13 experienced the NCAA tourney at their new schools - Avery Woodson and Iverson. (Will become 4 of 17 if the Lawsons go to the NCAA with KU next year.)

While 5 actually experienced their only NCAA tourneys at Memphis - Dom Woodson, Damien Wilson, Austin, Pookie, and Nick.

Only 3 experienced abnormal leaps in (D1) stats at their new schools. Wilson, Pookie, and Nick (just this year). Maybe you include Kuran, although we didn't get a good look during his (only) frosh year.

Only 3 of the 17 landed at traditionally strong programs - Austin and the Lawsons.

While 4 transferred out of D1 altogether - Rykhoek, Marshall, Cunningham, Hawkins.

Indeed, there are always a lot of factors in play with transfers. And it has become easier and acceptable to transfer. But there is a story here for some of these kids who think it will solve all their problems.

Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

Has nothing to do with anything (other than your affinity to the SEC). The point about Markel was it supposedly was to improve his NCAA chances, and that has not happened.

Personally, I don't care. Wish he had stayed, but I'm not going to judge based on how the season ended and the transition in the program. Just pointing out the MG and GC are correct - the grass is not always greener, so think hard.

So the FACT that his numbers are down and that in most of his games he is playing against better players than he played against last year 'Has nothing to do with anything'. That shows a very low IQ, a very low level ability to turn data into information and the inability to live in the real world. I hope you didn't graduate from Memphis. That would be a disgrace to the University.

He is scoring 10 points per game in conference and 10 points per game total...Explain again how the much tougher SEC is the reason he is playing poorly.

He started slowly and he has proven once his confidence is down he will continue his slide.

Wait he’s averaging 10 a game?!? I must have read over that in the beginning bc the way people were talkin made it seem like he was averaging less than 5 a game. Is he a better player than 10 PPG prob but damn some made it seem like he forgot how to play the game. 10 a game on a team where 5 players average double digits.

(01-18-2018 08:56 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  Wait he’s averaging 10 a game?!? I must have read over that in the beginning bc the way people were talkin made it seem like he was averaging less than 5 a game. Is he a better player than 10 PPG prob but damn some made it seem like he forgot how to play the game. 10 a game on a team where 5 players average double digits.

He shoots under 40% from the floor and like 28% from the 3

(01-18-2018 09:01 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 08:56 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  Wait he’s averaging 10 a game?!? I must have read over that in the beginning bc the way people were talkin made it seem like he was averaging less than 5 a game. Is he a better player than 10 PPG prob but damn some made it seem like he forgot how to play the game. 10 a game on a team where 5 players average double digits.

He shoots under 40% from the floor and like 28% from the 3

I have absolutely no problem with Markel transferring, just his choice of schools. I was thinking he’d find a school with a good chance of playing in the tourney and one that needed his skill set. My guess is that he’d wished he stayed.


Again, I wish him the best of luck...

I think Markel is like other successful HS athletes who had success at that level, were highly rated, etc. They envisioned that success carrying over into to college & had NBA aspirations. So when the success doesn't come as expected & the dream is slipping away, they look at other factors beyond themselves as contributing. So they attempt to change those factors in order to revive their dreams. Occasionally it works out, most times not. In Markel's case, it seems he is receiving confirmation of his real potential even after changing his environment, his teammates & coach, I.e., not a bad player but still inconsistent & still not living up to his dream as envisioned.

(01-17-2018 10:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Giannotto and Calkins mentioned this on their podcast. Said Markel isn't doing so well - and that it goes to show the grass is not always greener. Just because you leave, it doesn't mean your numbers will go up or you will go to a more successful team. Made me think and research...

Over the past 4 years (when our transfer problem really kicked-in), we've had 17 transfers. 4 of those are currently sitting out, so it's hard to include them in this analysis:

Only 2 of the 13 experienced the NCAA tourney at their new schools - Avery Woodson and Iverson. (Will become 4 of 17 if the Lawsons go to the NCAA with KU next year.)

While 5 actually experienced their only NCAA tourneys at Memphis - Dom Woodson, Damien Wilson, Austin, Pookie, and Nick.

Only 3 experienced abnormal leaps in (D1) stats at their new schools. Wilson, Pookie, and Nick (just this year). Maybe you include Kuran, although we didn't get a good look during his (only) frosh year.

Only 3 of the 17 landed at traditionally strong programs - Austin and the Lawsons.

While 4 transferred out of D1 altogether - Rykhoek, Marshall, Cunningham, Hawkins.

Indeed, there are always a lot of factors in play with transfers. And it has become easier and acceptable to transfer. But there is a story here for some of these kids who think it will solve all their problems.

Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

Has nothing to do with anything (other than your affinity to the SEC). The point about Markel was it supposedly was to improve his NCAA chances, and that has not happened.

Personally, I don't care. Wish he had stayed, but I'm not going to judge based on how the season ended and the transition in the program. Just pointing out the MG and GC are correct - the grass is not always greener, so think hard.

So the FACT that his numbers are down and that in most of his games he is playing against better players than he played against last year 'Has nothing to do with anything'. That shows a very low IQ, a very low level ability to turn data into information and the inability to live in the real world. I hope you didn't graduate from Memphis. That would be a disgrace to the University.

He is scoring 10 points per game in conference and 10 points per game total...Explain again how the much tougher SEC is the reason he is playing poorly.

He started slowly and he has proven once his confidence is down he will continue his slide.

I feel very confident in my assertion he is facing tougher competition in most games in the SEC than he faced in most games in the AAC. You are free to believe what you want.

(01-18-2018 10:28 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 10:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:18 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Markel is playing against tougher competition. Boot Lockers told me.

Has nothing to do with anything (other than your affinity to the SEC). The point about Markel was it supposedly was to improve his NCAA chances, and that has not happened.

Personally, I don't care. Wish he had stayed, but I'm not going to judge based on how the season ended and the transition in the program. Just pointing out the MG and GC are correct - the grass is not always greener, so think hard.

So the FACT that his numbers are down and that in most of his games he is playing against better players than he played against last year 'Has nothing to do with anything'. That shows a very low IQ, a very low level ability to turn data into information and the inability to live in the real world. I hope you didn't graduate from Memphis. That would be a disgrace to the University.

He is scoring 10 points per game in conference and 10 points per game total...Explain again how the much tougher SEC is the reason he is playing poorly.

He started slowly and he has proven once his confidence is down he will continue his slide.

I feel very confident in my assertion he is facing tougher competition in most games in the SEC than he faced in most games in the AAC. You are free to believe what you want.

That may be true...

But does that mean that is why he is not playing as well...The figures I posted prove otherwise

I gave you DATA saying that he played poorly against lesser competition as well...What does that say about your ability to turn data into information.