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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-15-2018 01:43 PM)jgardne Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 01:40 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  We've lowered the bar so much that beating crap teams makes us excited about farfetched NIT dreams.

Yep. What are we even talking about here?

What these 2 said ^^
01-16-2018 06:34 AM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-16-2018 03:59 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 02:22 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:04 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:00 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:48 PM)Shooters Wrote:  Back to original post, I don’t think either are feasible with the changes to the NIT selection criteria. Regular season Conference champs who do not get into the NCAA are put in first which can significantly affect the number of at large teams. That coupled with our bad Non conference SOS and very poor attendance will be working against us.

Yep. With our schedule it will take atleast 24 wins.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Memphis.html

24 wins puts us around 40-41 in the RPI. Heck, we maybe a bubble NCAA team then.

Yep, then they look at our schedule, see no good wins and we don't get in. I am willing to bet a steak dinner that 24 wins doesn't get us into the NCAA, if we get 24 wins, and that 20 wins doesn't get us into the NIT.

You said 24 wins are needed to get into the NIT. I believe we'll be in fact on the NCAA bubble with 24 wins and may not get in, but definitely NIT. In fact 21 wins and we'll be in the NIT. Your initial post mentioned 24 wins as the minimum requirement for the NIT which IMO is not correct.

24 regular season wins would likely mean Memphis finishes 2nd or 3rd in the AAC, since that means Memphis would finish out the season 12-1 and be 15-3 in conference.

That would be an easy NCAA bid.
01-16-2018 09:20 AM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
Unlikely, but a trend is a friend! Just win baby, just win.
01-16-2018 09:28 AM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-16-2018 02:22 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:04 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:00 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:48 PM)Shooters Wrote:  Back to original post, I don’t think either are feasible with the changes to the NIT selection criteria. Regular season Conference champs who do not get into the NCAA are put in first which can significantly affect the number of at large teams. That coupled with our bad Non conference SOS and very poor attendance will be working against us.

Yep. With our schedule it will take atleast 24 wins.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Memphis.html

24 wins puts us around 40-41 in the RPI. Heck, we maybe a bubble NCAA team then.

Yep, then they look at our schedule, see no good wins and we don't get in. I am willing to bet a steak dinner that 24 wins doesn't get us into the NCAA, if we get 24 wins, and that 20 wins doesn't get us into the NIT.

24 wins indicates we only lose 1 or 2 more regular season games.

That means we beat Houston, UCF, SMU and either Cinci or WSU...Wouldn't that be 3 or 4 good wins. Put some thought into your posts.
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01-16-2018 10:02 AM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-16-2018 10:02 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 02:22 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:04 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:00 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:48 PM)Shooters Wrote:  Back to original post, I don’t think either are feasible with the changes to the NIT selection criteria. Regular season Conference champs who do not get into the NCAA are put in first which can significantly affect the number of at large teams. That coupled with our bad Non conference SOS and very poor attendance will be working against us.

Yep. With our schedule it will take atleast 24 wins.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Memphis.html

24 wins puts us around 40-41 in the RPI. Heck, we maybe a bubble NCAA team then.

Yep, then they look at our schedule, see no good wins and we don't get in. I am willing to bet a steak dinner that 24 wins doesn't get us into the NCAA, if we get 24 wins, and that 20 wins doesn't get us into the NIT.

24 wins indicates we only lose 1 or 2 more regular season games.

That means we beat Houston, UCF, SMU and either Cinci or WSU...Wouldn't that be 3 or 4 good wins. Put some thought into your posts.
So are you taking the steak dinner bet? 20 wins = no NCAA and no NIT.

24 wins = no NCAA, but a NIT.

Steak dinner?
01-16-2018 01:26 PM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
Tubby finishing at it below .500 is a trend.
01-16-2018 02:36 PM
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24 wins?? 12-1 down the stretch???

Because we beat a crap Temple team at the buzzer????

I hope you guys are right but come on
01-16-2018 04:04 PM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-16-2018 04:04 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  24 wins?? 12-1 down the stretch???

Because we beat a crap Temple team at the buzzer????

I hope you guys are right but come on

Temple is a hot and cold team. They’ve had some really good wins, played Cinci very close, and some head scratching losses.

Unrealistic to go 12-1, but a better conversation than F Tubby and hoping we lose. I’m sticking with my original guess of 18 wins.
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-16-2018 04:04 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  24 wins?? 12-1 down the stretch???

Because we beat a crap Temple team at the buzzer????

I hope you guys are right but come on

Let me add, there is no way we will get 24 wins, it is all hypothetical.

Also, we could win one, possibly two games in the conference tournament to reach 24, but even then we aren't getting to 24 wins this season.
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01-16-2018 05:15 PM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-15-2018 02:37 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 01:59 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 01:28 PM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 09:33 AM)cmt Wrote:  I say you are dreaming.

Just to make the NIT we'd have to beat SMU and Houston, all the other teams except WSU and Cincinnati. In fact, we'd probably have to beat either Cincinnati or Wichita State. Of course, just win the tournament and you're in, right?

We are 162 Ken Pom
128 Sagarin
Not even a mention in bracketology (Houston now last 4 in, SMU now first four out)

The committee doesn't look at Ken Pom or Sagarin.

Wrong again.

It does seem to happen a bit, doesn't it?

That the two of you are wrong? Yes, that does seem to happen a lot.

RPI is specifically mentioned as criteria. Memphis is listed at 97.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-...etball-rpi
01-16-2018 06:39 PM
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RE: Is a NCAA Bid or NIT Feasible?
(01-15-2018 10:03 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 06:24 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 06:06 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 05:57 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 05:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  But by the same token, the game vs. Cinci was just a tad over two weeks ago, so...

No comparison. Getting slapped around by Little Rock ain't nothing like getting rolled by a top 25 team. I was there. It was humiliating. Lots of people got off the Tubby train after that game.

Slapped around by LR?

You sure you were at the game?

Memphis spotted them an early lead and proceeded to outscore them 63-41 the last 28 minutes of the game.

There are tons of examples where lesser team are spotted an early lead then run off the floor the rest of the game.

The Cinci loss was the worst loss in the HISTORY of the rivalry.

Now, THAT is being slapped around.

You must've been watching wrasslin.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-833475-page-12.html

What about my post above is incorrect?

1) Memphis spotted them an early lead.

2) [Memphis] proceeded to outscore them 63-41 the last 28 minutes of the game.

3) There are tons of examples where lesser team are spotted an early lead then run off the floor the rest of the game.

4) The Cinci loss was the worst loss in the HISTORY of the rivalry.


--I'll await an explanation of which of my statements was incorrect.

This is like the time you bragged about being correct so far in your W/L prediction, and I pointed out that your very first prediction was a win against Alabama! LOL

1) Spotting someone means you voluntarily let them start out ahead (a few points, a few car lengths, whatever), so once again, you're wrong before you even get out of the gate.

2) Saying we outscored them the last 28 minutes is like saying the Dow rose from 2007 to 2013. Yeah, if all you look at is the starting point and ending point you would think that, but most people know that there was some pretty signifcant "not rising" going on in between just like people who watched the game know that, despite the 14-point lead they had after 12-1/2 minutes being their largest, there was a lot of the rest of the game when we weren't outscoring them -- they were outscoring us.

3) Being up 6 with 20 seconds left is not what honest people call running someone off the court.

4) That one is correct, though I'm not sure what is surprising about getting an epic beatdown from a team we haven't beaten at their place since Rose, CDR, Anderson, Dosier and Dorsey did it ten years ago who probably have their best team since Nick Van Excel played there and doing so with, possibly, our lowest ranked team since Moe Iba was coach. Did you predict that one as a win, too? I can't remember.
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Just keep winning!
01-17-2018 07:59 AM
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Dont we have a coach who is top 10-15 in salary? Farfetched NCAA team/fringe NIT team with no recruits is still embarrassing.
01-17-2018 08:11 AM
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