Enjoy the ride now, because yes, if this continues, I don’t see anyway Forbes is back next year.


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(01-14-2018 07:42 AM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  

(01-13-2018 09:47 PM)Wadood Abides Wrote:  It's a common promotion tactic. I have seen it at several college arenas the past few years. Chick fil A is often the sponsor, but I have seen other companies, too. Don't know if one is a copycat.

Helps keep home team fans rowdy at opponent free throws. Some use the miss two format and others track total visitor misses with tote board or fan chant counts. ...something like six total misses wins chicken.

About 20% of the free chicken cards eventually get cashed in. If you buy soda and fries, they're almost at even money for the food. If you bring a family of four and order meals, etc, they still profit, not to mention the goodwill and advertising.

Yes on the advertising. How else can you get a few thousand people chanting your company name as part of a sporting event. LOL Chick-fil-a, Chick-fil-a, Chick-fil-a!

And Chick-fil-a going out of business over a few free sandwiches after each home game? Someone doesn’t understand the cult following that place seems to have. Other than Sunday, their drive thru line almost always has 3-4 cars, usually more.

The PRA of Chick -fil a is over 3 million.

We could really use another couple of years to build something with a chance to last. Otherwise things could vanish in a puff of decommits and transfers. Next year we lose 5 of our top 6 scorers [Bradford 1, McCloud 2, Payne 3 skip Bo, Jurkin 4, skip Edwards, Burrell 5, and our best lock down defender, Jermaine.

That's a piece of cake to Forbes, who already has Patrick Good and Jeromy Rodriguez sitting on the bench, Hodges and Armus returning and several fine high school commits. But coaching careers are relatively short and 52 year old coaches have got to move when they're a hot commodity, not after they're no longer the flavor of the month.

The Steve Forbes experience has been a great one from day one and as much as I would love to see him stay for 15 years the reality is that someone will offer him probably triple what we can. If a clown like Matt McCall can pull down 3/4 million at UMASS after steering Chatt into the ground then somebody is going to come calling for Forbes. It would be great if he took the Gregg Marshall approach and built a juggernaut but we don't have the Koch brothers to write blank checks.

I’m going to stay in my delusional bubble and assume he loves it here and wants to stay for quite a while. And he is willing to turn down tempting offers to build a legacy here. Yep, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

(01-14-2018 05:26 PM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  I’m going to stay in my delusional bubble and assume he loves it here and wants to stay for quite a while. And he is willing to turn down tempting offers to build a legacy here. Yep, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

I agree! I hope Coach wants to stay with us.

Forbes may leave, and will probably leave if the Bucs make the NCAAs and especially if they win a game. Iowa is the place we have to watch him going to - he grew up 10 miles away from Iowa City and Fran McCaffrey(former UNCG coach) is on the hot seat there.

However, that's ok. Yes, we can survive as a program, because its my sincere belief is that the days of the Murry Bartows are gone, and we can make a good hire to keep things rolling. I look for Forbes to take Shay with him wherever he goes, but BJ McKie sits in the wings, who had a long European professional career and was the all-time leading scorer at South Carolina. I remember when BJ played, and he was phenomenal player, and he's also a phenomenal person.

ETSU is never going to be a destination school, and that's ok. There's very few places that can call themselves that. However, how about we become the next Tulsa, who can claim Tubby Smith, Bill Self, & Nolan Richardson as head coaches. What do all those guys have in common? A national title. Tulsa was a force in the 1980s and 1990s and we can be that. Yes, maybe we're a stepping stone, but if we become a stepping stone to coaching greatness, I'm ok with that. You have to be realistic about it. Les Robinson didn't stay when he had his dream opportunity, and Forbes won't either. However, having a guy leave for a P5 job versus firing a coach is a big difference as to the future of the program. The changes that have come along during Forbes' tenure can definitely lead to long-term success.

(01-14-2018 06:02 PM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  Forbes may leave, and will probably leave if the Bucs make the NCAAs and especially if they win a game. Iowa is the place we have to watch him going to - he grew up 10 miles away from Iowa City and Fran McCaffrey(former UNCG coach) is on the hot seat there.

However, that's ok. Yes, we can survive as a program, because its my sincere belief is that the days of the Murry Bartows are gone, and we can make a good hire to keep things rolling. I look for Forbes to take Shay with him wherever he goes, but BJ McKie sits in the wings, who had a long European professional career and was the all-time leading scorer at South Carolina. I remember when BJ played, and he was phenomenal player, and he's also a phenomenal person.

ETSU is never going to be a destination school, and that's ok. There's very few places that can call themselves that. However, how about we become the next Tulsa, who can claim Tubby Smith, Bill Self, & Nolan Richardson as head coaches. What do all those guys have in common? A national title. Tulsa was a force in the 1980s and 1990s and we can be that. Yes, maybe we're a stepping stone, but if we become a stepping stone to coaching greatness, I'm ok with that. You have to be realistic about it. Les Robinson didn't stay when he had his dream opportunity, and Forbes won't either. However, having a guy leave for a P5 job versus firing a coach is a big difference as to the future of the program. The changes that have come along during Forbes' tenure can definitely lead to long-term success.

Isn't that pretty much what everyone said last year? Forbes has seen the filthy underbelly of the P5s. He may not want to view it again, or he may, who knows.

If he were to leave, I would like Carter’s first call to be to Jason Shay and ask him to ascend to the head coaching position. I love his game planning ability.

What's the reasoning behind a football transfer stepping down in classification, then playing immediately, and a basketball player transferring to what is considered a mid-major then having to sit out a year? Has it always been this way? Just curious.

Because in football, Division I is separated into two different classifications with different scholarship rules. In Division I basketball, techically all 351 teams are on a level playing field.

(01-14-2018 07:31 PM)squeak Wrote:  What's the reasoning behind a football transfer stepping down in classification, then playing immediately, and a basketball player transferring to what is considered a mid-major then having to sit out a year? Has it always been this way? Just curious.

I think it is because in basketball we are all in division 1 whether P5 or mid-major. In football we are in another division (FCS) which requires no sit out. I think that is the reasoning at least.

(01-14-2018 07:38 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 07:31 PM)squeak Wrote:  What's the reasoning behind a football transfer stepping down in classification, then playing immediately, and a basketball player transferring to what is considered a mid-major then having to sit out a year? Has it always been this way? Just curious.

I think it is because in basketball we are all in division 1 whether P5 or mid-major. In football we are in another division (FCS) which requires no sit out. I think that is the reasoning at least.

We are all NCAA D1, the SEC, the ACC and the SoCon etc. Since 1978, football has been further divided into D1a and D1aa, now called FBS and FCS.



To my knowledge the term "mid major" is not present in the NCAA structure. It is an invention of the media and our society to distinguish FBS from FCS in basketball where no distinction exists.

Then we could get into a discussion of the differences in D1, D2 (Tusculum), and D3 (Emory and Henry). Then there is NAIA (Milligan) and the NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association)...

https://www.fanragsports.com/rothstein-n...transfers/

Rothstein just posted this today. The sit out a year for transfers is likely coming to an end.

I like the idea of guaranteeing a scholarship for the length of the graduate program regarding graduate transfer students. I hate the idea of immediate transfer eligibility. I hate even more the idea that a student "earns" that with either a 2.7 or 2.8 GPA. If they are going to do that, it should at least be a 3.0 GPA.

(01-14-2018 06:51 PM)Bucs06 Wrote:  If he were to leave, I would like Carter’s first call to be to Jason Shay and ask him to ascend to the head coaching position. I love his game planning ability.

Interesting since he only does scout for a third of the games.

(01-14-2018 04:18 PM)swvabucsfan Wrote:  We could really use another couple of years to build something with a chance to last. Otherwise things could vanish in a puff of decommits and transfers. Next year we lose 5 of our top 6 scorers [Bradford 1, McCloud 2, Payne 3 skip Bo, Jurkin 4, skip Edwards, Burrell 5, and our best lock down defender, Jermaine.

That's a piece of cake to Forbes, who already has Patrick Good and Jeromy Rodriguez sitting on the bench, Hodges and Armus returning and several fine high school commits. But coaching careers are relatively short and 52 year old coaches have got to move when they're a hot commodity, not after they're no longer the flavor of the month.

I wouldn’t necessarily put Bo and Armus in the returning column if SF leaves. Might well depend on where he lands.

(01-15-2018 05:41 AM)PreacherPurl Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 04:18 PM)swvabucsfan Wrote:  We could really use another couple of years to build something with a chance to last. Otherwise things could vanish in a puff of decommits and transfers. Next year we lose 5 of our top 6 scorers [Bradford 1, McCloud 2, Payne 3 skip Bo, Jurkin 4, skip Edwards, Burrell 5, and our best lock down defender, Jermaine.

That's a piece of cake to Forbes, who already has Patrick Good and Jeromy Rodriguez sitting on the bench, Hodges and Armus returning and several fine high school commits. But coaching careers are relatively short and 52 year old coaches have got to move when they're a hot commodity, not after they're no longer the flavor of the month.

I wouldn’t necessarily put Bo and Armus in the returning column if SF leaves. Might well depend on where he lands.

Why do you post on this board?

(01-15-2018 05:41 AM)PreacherPurl Wrote:  I wouldn’t necessarily put Bo and Armus in the returning column if SF leaves.

I did no such thing:

I noted only that it is "Forbes, who already has ... Hodges and Armus returning."

Like I said, in a coaching change things are up for grabs:

"Otherwise things could vanish in a puff of decommits and transfers."

(01-14-2018 06:28 PM)BucDoctor Wrote:  Isn't that pretty much what everyone said last year? Forbes has seen the filthy underbelly of the P5s. He may not want to view it again, or he may, who knows.

People have been saying it since year 1. I'm of the opinion that he stays as well.