(01-11-2018 11:42 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  I do wonder how many times Mach and Fit are never posting at the same time. Coincidence??

Moreover posting between 9am-4PM school hours, during weekdays. Fit works second shift and on weekends.

Fit, He won with a very large amount of support from White folks. With exception from a small sector of the White population that might be considered racist, Obama over came that and won. He Himself campaigned on being a uniter, not a divider but We saw how that went. He also ran way to the Left which outside of major metropolitan coastal areas did not resonate with the vast majority Americans, Democrat voters included whom felt were left out. He was a Die Hard Liberal that did not run as one. I E He took advantage of the people for His gain. Thus the drumming the Democrats received in last few election cycles. Not White Racism.

Not another salon article... I trust the onion more with facts than Salon.

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Fit, He won with a very large amount of support from White folks. With exception from a small sector of the White population that might be considered racist, Obama over came that and won.[/quote]


I agree with this statement. You cannot deny however how a segment of the population reacted to this achievement. The article gets it right. Why else was the Republican's mantra "Take America Back" as if it was stolen by the black man.

[quote]He Himself campaigned on being a uniter, not a divider but We saw how that went. [/quote]

But let's be realistic as to why this happened. Republicans vowed to oppose him and even walked away from their own legislation even when Obama supported it. Why? Because they didn't want their base to think they were siding with the Black President.

[quote]He also ran way to the Left which outside of major metropolitan coastal areas did not resonate with the vast majority Americans,[/quote]

Ran way to the left? Give me an example. Health care reform wasn't way to the left.

[quote]Democrat voters included whom felt were left out. He was a Die Hard Liberal that did not run as one. I E He took advantage of the people for His gain. Thus the drumming the Democrats received in last few election cycles. Not White Racism.[/quote]

Trump's approval ratings are in the 30% range. I know that the vast majority of Republican voted for him. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the 30% that support this president no matter what he does. For one reason and one reason only and this article explains with great detail who those people are.

(01-11-2018 11:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  For black and brown Americans, Barack Obama's two terms in office were a rebuke to a society where nonwhites have long been marked as second-class citizens. For black people in particular, the literal presence of Obama's family in the White House represented a high point in the long black freedom struggle. In the long arc of history, for centuries black Americans were owned, murdered, abused and raped by whites as human property, and yet a black American had become the most powerful man on the planet.

Of course, Obama's ascent did not heal the centuries of harm done to black Americans by white racism. But that next chapter in America's history -- where one more "first" for a black person was demolished -- was still symbolically intoxicating because it validated a belief in this country's ability to change for the better.

For many millions of other Americans, the overwhelming majority of them white and conservative, Obama's presidency represented a personal insult. The very presence of an intelligent, graceful, educated and accomplished black man in the White House -- as president, instead of as a maid, janitor or butler -- rocked them to the core of their being. If a person inherently connects being a "real American" with whiteness, then a black president is unthinkable. Such a reality forces a cognitive dissonance that cannot be easily reconciled. What was understood to be the natural order of things for White America was turned upside down.

Over the course of those eight years, many white conservatives became lost in the fever swamps of white supremacist paranoia, consumed by an existential dread about some vague notion of black or brown power, manifested in their archenemy and political demon Barack Obama. For too many people, Obama seemed to represent the displacement and obsolescence of White America and the birth of some undiscovered country where nonwhites rule and whites are made to kneel at their feet in submission.

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This is what I have been saying for years.

Blind link salon.

Stupid and unimaginative race baiting article. People that think like this are dimwits.

It wasn’t stolen by a black man, it was stolen by a bunch of collectivist/redistributionist/socialist/communist democrats.

(01-11-2018 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Trump's approval ratings are in the 30% range. I know that the vast majority of Republican voted for him. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the 30% that support this president no matter what he does. For one reason and one reason only and this article explains with great detail who those people are.

You could paint your house in an hour with a brush that broad.

(01-11-2018 12:54 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Trump's approval ratings are in the 30% range. I know that the vast majority of Republican voted for him. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the 30% that support this president no matter what he does. For one reason and one reason only and this article explains with great detail who those people are.

You could paint your house in an hour with a brush that broad.

Maybe it is a bit broad. Personally, I don't think 30% of the republican is all that many people. The country is probably 60-40 in favor of the Democrats so roughly 12% of the country is racist.

I don't think that is an unsurmountable hill to climb.

How much of that 12% includes racist Democrats?

(01-11-2018 01:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  so roughly 12% of the country is racist.

I don't think that is an unsurmountable hill to climb.

Heh. Leftism has always been marked by purity purges.

(01-11-2018 01:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  so roughly 12% of the country is racist.

I don't think that is an unsurmountable hill to climb.

Heh. Leftism has always been marked by purity purges.

Now who is painting with a broad brush?

(01-11-2018 01:21 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  so roughly 12% of the country is racist.

I don't think that is an unsurmountable hill to climb.

Heh. Leftism has always been marked by purity purges.

Now who is painting with a broad brush?

History is full of leftist movements devolving into who is most purely leftist, often at the barrel of a gun. It's not really debatable in comparison to your comment that all Trump supports are racist.

(01-11-2018 01:21 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  so roughly 12% of the country is racist.

I don't think that is an unsurmountable hill to climb.

Heh. Leftism has always been marked by purity purges.

Now who is painting with a broad brush?

I fail to see how his comment is painting with a broad brush...

(01-11-2018 01:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:21 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 01:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  so roughly 12% of the country is racist.

I don't think that is an unsurmountable hill to climb.

Heh. Leftism has always been marked by purity purges.

Now who is painting with a broad brush?

I fail to see how his comment is painting with a broad brush...

You also failed to see that when I said the Rio Grand was a moat, I was only joking.

(01-11-2018 11:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  For black and brown Americans, Barack Obama's two terms in office were a rebuke to a society where nonwhites have long been marked as second-class citizens.

Funny thin since Trump has gotten AA unemployment to it's lowest rate in decades.... I guess voting to "rebuke" is not really a good idea.

obama was the worst president of our lifetime...

The vast majority of conservative whites loathed Obama because of his political views and his policies. If you could take Reagan's political views and poured them into Obama, then I would have been a staunch supporter of Obama. I wouldn't care of Obama had Indian (subcontinent), Arab, African or Asian decent. I wouldn't care if he had physical deformities, was handicapped or was even a homosexual. If he held policies that I agreed with and he knew how to push the policies that I liked into laws, then I would have been 100% in his corner.

I'd like to think that I speak for 99% of conservatives on this one.

Here is a bigger question.

What percentage of the country do you think is racist?

And what percentage of racists vote Republican? I'll give you my guess after a few responses.

(01-11-2018 02:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Here is a bigger question.

What percentage of the country do you think is racist?

And what percentage of racists vote Republican? I'll give you my guess after a few responses.

95% of the left, of which you reside.

5% of the right, which you claim you reside.

(01-11-2018 02:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Here is a bigger question.

What percentage of the country do you think is racist?

And what percentage of racists vote Republican? I'll give you my guess after a few responses.

More than we all like.

More than likely the same percentage that vote Democrat. Racism transcends political ideology. Always has, always will.